I understand your predicament. The biggest things I see that are overlooked because of the fantasy world we live in comes down to two things. One, Billy’s idea of a good slug shooter might not be yours. Second is when a guy prints a couple one inch groups at 100, he considers his gun a MOA gun. Because we can’t actually go shooting with each other and see how Bobs or Bills gun actually performs, it’s all hearsay to me. In your situation it all boils down to whose word do you trust. You’ve been on this forum long enough to have a pretty good idea I hope. I could recommend my slug guns but I won’t because not everyone has a machine shop. Personally, if the Uragans came with a pair of glasses that once I put them on the gun wouldn’t look like a mutt, I would try one. I don’t mind building a slug gun from an existing platform if the foundation has what I feel I need. If one day I just get tired of all the mysteries and riddles, as of right now I couldn’t ignore a Uragan. Possibly an Edgun R5 or Cricket. That’s it.