A little stumped about POI

[_walter_]

I’m a fairly new scope shooter. This is a .25 26g pellet 900fps maverick. After I sight in I’m trying to shoot 5 shot groups but it would hit the cross hairs but when I try for another group the poi moves: dot example towards the Center there’s a string of 5 shots that just landed like that. The only thing I can think of is wine but it wasn’t that windy and only 50 yards. Could do tulyw scope be losing zero?

 

[JimNM]

A few things to ask yourself...

Are your rings and scope rail tight?

What is your parallax set for?

Any wind can cause drift, even at just 50 yards.
Horizontal displacement is usually wind. Even if you can't feel it at the bench.

 

[_walter_]

A few things to ask yourself...

Are your rings and scope rail tight?

What is your parallax set for?

Any wind can cause drift, even at just 50 yards.
Horizontal displacement is usually wind. Even if you can't feel it at the bench.

Seems tight. shots within a group are pretty consistent as it’s not going all over the place. It’s just peculiar that when I aim another spot it’s not hitting where I anticipate, although this set of 5 shots would generally land in the same area. I guess it could be the wind but I’m pushing almost 50fpe

Yes all seem to be shifting left but also down..

 

[JimNM]

Left and down is expected when shooting pellets in a from the right wind.

Faster speed does not mean less drift, all the time. In some cases the transonic speed has the worst wind deflection. Can you see any kind of mirage in your scope when you're shooting? That may give you a clue how fast the air is moving right at the target. Although, the last 10 yards the pellet travels accounts for the smallest amount of wind deflection.

 

[JimNM]

I asked about parallax because that affects where your eye sees the crosshairs against the target. If you're not consistent with your cheek weld, or your parallax is not set right, your point of aim will be off every time your face comes back down to the gun.

 

[_walter_]

Left and down is expected when shooting pellets in a from the right wind.

Faster speed does not mean less drift, all the time. In some cases the transonic speed has the worst wind deflection. Can you see any kind of mirage in your scope when you're shooting? That may give you a clue how fast the air is moving right at the target. Although, the last 10 yards the pellet travels accounts for the smallest amount of wind deflection.

Yes I saw mirage. The air was moving like jello and also the target was swaying lol

 

[JimNM]

I think there was more wind than you were expecting. Nothing wrong with your scope.

 

[igolfat8]

Also consider scope cant. If your cross hairs are not level with each shot then you can expect the POI to move.

 

[madeintheuk]

Also consider scope cant. If your cross hairs are not level with each shot then you can expect the POI to move.

First thing I thought of when I saw the picture. Your scope is mounted crazy high above the barrel. This does 2 things. Drastically increases cant, and also increases the amount of holdover needed from when shooting.
a slight change in cant with a scope that high could cause all sorts of shifting in groups. Pair that with the wind, and you can get exactly what you’re seeing.

 

[qball]

Look up parallax error.

 

[_walter_]

Hm

Also consider scope cant. If your cross hairs are not level with each shot then you can expect the POI to move.

hmm interesting. I did not have this issue last week when I was using a bipod. I switched to this tripod/rest just to try it out. But as you can see it’s just resting freely so it’s possible every time I move to a new spot the gun/scope is crooked. Good catch !

 

[BluegrassBill2020]

Yesterday my last shots where spot on @ 25 yrds. This afternoon I spent over an hour chasing the POI. AF Talon SS .22. My go to rifle for squirrels is a Gamo Urban .22. When I park It by my back door with the psi in Gamo zone it stays accurate for 20+ shots (over 30 grey's taken) I am really frustrated.

 

[Gerry52]

You wrote, "The only thing I can think of is wine". Just HOW MUCH wine did you have?

 

[Gr8Recreation]

You wrote, "The only thing I can think of is wine". Just HOW MUCH wine did you have?

 

[_walter_]

Actually I am shooting pellets using the slug port. Is that a prob?

 

[rikkochet]

I’m a fairly new scope shooter. This is a .25 26g pellet 900fps maverick. After I sight in I’m trying to shoot 5 shot groups but it would hit the cross hairs but when I try for another group the poi moves: dot example towards the Center there’s a string of 5 shots that just landed like that. The only thing I can think of is wine but it wasn’t that windy and only 50 yards. Could do tulyw scope be losing zero?

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You wrote "The only thing I can think of is wine....".
That causes a lot of strange groups.
Now I have to clean the coffee off my desk after it ran out of my nose when I read that.

 

[OldSpook]

I’m a fairly new scope shooter. This is a .25 26g pellet 900fps maverick. After I sight in I’m trying to shoot 5 shot groups but it would hit the cross hairs but when I try for another group the poi moves: dot example towards the Center there’s a string of 5 shots that just landed like that. The only thing I can think of is wine but it wasn’t that windy and only 50 yards. Could do tulyw scope be losing zero?

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Well it could be wine but it's more likely whiskey . Sorry you got to love autocorrect.

Do you see how your groups are moving around but the point of aim is not changing between groups? From looking at that Target I see your groups move but the point of impact does not change between groups. That's a really big clue to what's going on here. Examine your shooting form. Figure out what you are changing from group to group.

I'm not saying that I'm absolutely sure that's what I'm seeing but I think it is. The first thing that I would check is my stock weld. Is your eye an exactly the same spot at exactly the same distance behind the scope for each shot? When you combine changes in stock weld with a poor parallax adjustment you get something that looks like that.

Just my two.