The 717 was my first truly accurate air pistol. I've owned it longer than any other airgun in my collection. Bought it in 1987 for $59.95. I've resealed it twice. Easy gun to work on. I'd love to get my hands on a 777 as a companion piece.
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What pistol did you shoot today
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A couple of years ago I had the opportunity to buy a C02 pistol which I knew next to nothing about. I got a really good deal because although the gun came in it's original box and looked to be in decent shape, it was completely disassembled. The gun is a Schimel GP-22. Since then I've learned a lot. I was surprised to discover all the parts were there, and the seals, which can be difficult to find, were in pretty good shape.
After a thorough cleaning and lube I reassembled the gun using the original seals. It's .22 cal and uses the short 8 gram C02 cartridges. Hit the reset button and pull back on the rear of the receiver to cock the action. Pulling open the toggle exposes the breech to load a pellet. Test fired it this morning, and surprisingly, it works.
I got 20 rounds off before pressure started to drop. It's noisy. Muzzle velocity is supposed to be somewhere around 600fps. Gotta drag out my chrono and see if the claim is true. It definitely hits hard. Trigger is pleasant, breaking at around 4lbs. It approximates the weight and balance of the Luger P08 pretty well. Given the low serial number I'm thinking it was manufactured in 1948. Regardless, it's easily the oldest airgun in my collection. Just a fun bit of airgun history.
Weight, balance, and overall proportions are pretty close to the real P08.
After a thorough cleaning and lube I reassembled the gun using the original seals. It's .22 cal and uses the short 8 gram C02 cartridges. Hit the reset button and pull back on the rear of the receiver to cock the action. Pulling open the toggle exposes the breech to load a pellet. Test fired it this morning, and surprisingly, it works.
I got 20 rounds off before pressure started to drop. It's noisy. Muzzle velocity is supposed to be somewhere around 600fps. Gotta drag out my chrono and see if the claim is true. It definitely hits hard. Trigger is pleasant, breaking at around 4lbs. It approximates the weight and balance of the Luger P08 pretty well. Given the low serial number I'm thinking it was manufactured in 1948. Regardless, it's easily the oldest airgun in my collection. Just a fun bit of airgun history.
Weight, balance, and overall proportions are pretty close to the real P08.
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Amazing condition Schimel you have there....maybe the best one left in the world. The now defunct 8 gram bulbs ran at a higher pressure than the 12 gram bulbs, making the Schimel very powerful albeit lower shot counts and noisey.
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The 8 gram co2 capsules are still available! But the pressure is the same as the 12g size, it is liquid and has a vapour pressure of around 58 bar, whatever the size of the container.
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Ordered , or rather pre-ordered, this HW75 on May 3 from AOA. Just arrived this evening. Only had time to clean the barrel and mount a red dot then fire a hand full of rounds just to try it out. Will be dialing it in and trying different pellets in the coming days. Looking forward to it, this is going to be a fun one!
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I dropped all the parts in an ultrasonic cleaner for an hour, and then into a water displacing oil bath. When I pulled the basket out of the oil, it became apparent that the finish was not only intact, but in excellent condition. Internally it also showed very little wear, and none of the telltale signs of the zamak cast metal breaking down.
I love projects like this. Turning a box full of grimy parts back into a good looking and good shooting historic gun is really satisfying. Interesting what Modski66 mentioned about the 8 gram C02. That explains the loud report and extra noisy clangs on my silhouette targets. The 8 gram cartridges are easy to find. Baker Airguns has them, or you can buy ones intended for soda machines off Amazon.
Looking forward to giving the old gal another workout today, and getting some chrono readings. Along with the Schimel, I'm shooting these as well today. Just did a trigger job on the 2300S, and the Airbug is brand new, just showed up yesterday.
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Yes it is. I see the Crosman Custom Shop offers wood grips for the guns they build. I wonder if they sell the grips as a standalone item. A set of the RH walnut target grips would be perfect. Have to give them a call.That 2300S is crying for some target grips
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Might take a look here. I have a set of his target grips on my 2300S and they’re excellent. Walnut sport grips on a .22 Custom Shop 2300 also very good. Was out of walnut in target grips so ended up with laminate.
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My mistake, I always thought the narrower neck of the 8 gram bulbs meant a geometry for the valve head being smaller in diameter and resulting In higher pressure...
Perhaps it's coming from better sealing at the barrel interface...Glad the bulbs still around..
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I get mine from home brewery shops to feed my Hammerli Sparkler and sometimes my Zastava GP45, but that is normally bulk fill - unless the fire extinguisher has run out...
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Had a few minutes (waiting on the dryer ) so i shot my Diana 6G 10 shots . it is older so i dont shoot it much might break from old age . ( the gun not me ) now to pack for Midwest Show, driving up friday / buying stuff saturday . Smile all the way home .
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This one, AGAIN -
Loving this pistola - so much, gonna hold out for a good deal on a used P-Rod before I move her innards back to a P-Rod tube.
Maybe someone of the Notos crowd has an obsolete P-Rod being neglected, and needing a new, loving home?
Loving this pistola - so much, gonna hold out for a good deal on a used P-Rod before I move her innards back to a P-Rod tube.
Maybe someone of the Notos crowd has an obsolete P-Rod being neglected, and needing a new, loving home?
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Thanks for the link. He does beautiful work for a reasonable price. Going to see about having a set like this made for my 2300S come payday-Might take a look here. I have a set of his target grips on my 2300S and they’re excellent. Walnut sport grips on a .22 Custom Shop 2300 also very good. Was out of walnut in target grips so ended up with laminate.
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The two things I don't like about the 2300S are the trigger and the plastic grips. Well, my trigger work has paid off. Got it down to a crisp 2.5 lbs using the stock parts and a replacement sear spring I fabricated. Had fun banging silhouette targets at 30 yards with it.
And the new Airbug is quite a shooter. Heck of a gun for under $150.
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