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Rock solid barrel, FX Maverick
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So what you’re saying is with 5 guns, once you sight them in, you never have to touch the scope again? Weeks, months, a year and all those guns are still spot on with no scope adjustments?
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From scope mounts to barrel crown there are a lot of connections to keep aligned and torqued on FX Impacts.
Each connection introduces another tolerance exposure. Undersized fasteners, too few like the single set screw on barrel thimble, contribute.
I like my compact FX, feels good, light and fast, but I am not willing to suspend criticism. Replacing the barrel in .177 solved some, not all, of the problems I was dealing with in field target application. Pesting in .22 the liners and magazines are great.
Other's may not need a single tweak to get or maintain their expected performance.
...my USFT dosen't know what POI shift even means...
Each connection introduces another tolerance exposure. Undersized fasteners, too few like the single set screw on barrel thimble, contribute.
I like my compact FX, feels good, light and fast, but I am not willing to suspend criticism. Replacing the barrel in .177 solved some, not all, of the problems I was dealing with in field target application. Pesting in .22 the liners and magazines are great.
Other's may not need a single tweak to get or maintain their expected performance.
...my USFT dosen't know what POI shift even means...
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I have a habit of checking zero on any firearms or airguns I go hunting with. And use the same box of ammo I will be hunting with. I am fortunate to be able to shoot in my own yard . I have had friends from work come up to hunt in the woods behind the house , and have them check their zero before we go. They usually needed their scope adjusted.
A bad scope or loose rings or mounting bolts can leave a guy chasing his tail also.
A bad scope or loose rings or mounting bolts can leave a guy chasing his tail also.
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To qualify my response, I have been shooting FX guns for just over a year. Two of the guns we have had since day one and the rest have dribbled in over the last 9 months.
What i am saying is that without influence from me or other external sources, I have never had the POI mysteriously shift.
I had to re-zero my Maverick Compact after it fell from about 3’. I reset the zero and it has not moved since.
My wife decided she wanted to shoot slugs out of her M3. After failing to get the desired results from the standard liner I installed a slug liner. The gun would not hold POI. In frustration i decided to put the standard liner back in. When I started the process I found that I had not tightened the grub screw holding the barrel into the block. Tightened the grub screw and the gun has shot very well since.
I have Bumped and whacked the barrel on my 600mm Crown MKII so many times out hunting that it is embarrassing to admit. That 600mm barrel sticks out like a flag pole and imparts a lot of torque on the barrel system. Thus far no shift in POI.
My M3 has offered me no issues whatsoever not even POI shift.
My Maverick 600mm has also operated flawlessly, but in fairness it rarely gets shot.
I had plenty of issues with my first two Mavericks. Every issue stemmed from me learning how to tune and work on my own guns. Ignorance makes fertile ground for mechanical problems and I sprouted more than my share. I am old enough to realize and admit when I am suffering a self inflicted problem. FX, worked with me through the learning curve and encouraged my efforts.
I believe a lot of the FX issues stem from people with no or little experience meddling with their guns and not having enough knowledge to know when they are creating issues rather than solving them.
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Or misunderstanding terms we use. Very rarely do I have any of my guns POI shift while I‘m actually shooting them. Well, maybe when I foul a barrel or experience a malfunction but nothing that I would point a finger and declare something a junker. A POI shift to me is I put my gun away tonight sighted in. At some point when I get it out to shoot it, be it the next time or maybe five shooting sessions, the gun is no longer sighted in and I have to adjust my scope a little. I find it almost impossible for this not to happen to someone. If that’s the case with all your guns, you will have competitive shooters contacting you to buy your guns. I’m wondering if you think POI shifts are guys chasing their groups around while they are shooting? This happens but it’s not the only definition of POI shifting.
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I had POI shift once on my gen 1 crown, while not touching the barrel at all, shooting at the bench. I found out later it was because of the barrel fouling up, as it seemed to dissapear when I cleaned the barrel, and lubed the pellets. In hindside that liner was probably not good, as it seemed to be reliant on lube, shooting ordinary pellets. Had I know what I do know, the dealer would probably had sent me a new liner, and the problem would have been solved. In that case it was the liner which was bad, and not the barrel itself.
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To feed the discussion some, Dale Humphrey made a video with the impact M3 where he abused the gun some, to test if POI changed.
Not a proof, but in his particular test I think the gun passed.
Not a proof, but in his particular test I think the gun passed.
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Yeah but even you drive over it or drag it behind a car some people still won’t consider that “stress test”. There is no need to prove to some people who will not believe FX is with scrap metal no matter what you or anyone says or do. It is a great thing as I had to wait for anything I order from FX for the last 2 plus years including my 7th FX I’m currently waiting on. To each their own. Meh.
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Consider yourself extraordinarily lucky. I am not so fortunate, as so many others have also found themselves. If you find yourself with this POI issue, the barrel bands do work well, but some are much better than others. 3D plastic is crap and there lies the problem. They stretch and move around. Some bands like the Black Arts use a carbon fiber impregnated plastic and they work very much better.
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Just because you do not suffer this issue does not mean others don't have the problem. Making bold all encompassing statements without 100% knowledge, which no one has, is truly stupid. You may say, as qball does, that he has not experienced the POI issue, but stating that the issue is misinformation is just wrong.
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Before you or anyone try other remedies to address POI problem try call FX first, they will walk you through the trouble shooting process and replace if something needs to be replaced. No one should have to remedy POI problem with after market stuff on a new gun that cover well north of 1000 bones, plus third party stuff many times cause other problems.
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I do not have an FX, but I have poi shifts from time to time that are not caused by something obvious.Huuummmmm..........does that mean I should buy a lotto ticket?
I had a POI shift problem then I realized it was my cheek weld/parallax error, fixed it with an Element scope that has a tight eye box. Indeed I spend a few hundred at FX to fix FX POI "problem".
My most common cause is me and my cheek and parallax error.
There are lots of threads on poi shift. I wonder what % can be attributed to the shooter and or fit of equipment to the shooter?
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well, this is the internet and it's always someone or something else's fault! I recommend you change your erroneous ways of admitting faults of your own.
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I agree, but unfortunately in Europe that is not possible. In Europe the FX policy is that the sellers provide first level service. It does not work. FX has isolated itself from customer service just like they did in the US before creating FX US. I had this POI issue from day one with my Crown. The current European policy forces all product issues to be resolved at the retail sales level. Most of these folks have little interest in resolving these issues, as it is not sales and therefore adds nothing to their bottom line.
EDIT: As a recent example of this, I contacted FX customer support to alert them of the stock interference with their quick fill nipple and that a small 1.5 mm trim of the stock resolves this problem. FX's response was to contact my regional vendor in Germany for validation. I then tried to contact this same dealer multiple times by phone and email. This went on for 10 days before I got a response and this yahoo had no idea what I was saying even though I had accurately identified the fill nipple by FX part number.
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Yikes!!! Sounds like EU bureaucracy at work there. This is why FX USA is just awesome by supporting customers directly. Maybe try to call FX USA for at least tech support?
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I put a barrel band on my Wildcat 700mm sniper before I even took the first shot. It's a long barrel, the band weight is negligible, so why not.
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I shoot regularly with a fx Maverick with a 700 mm barrel and a bc tensioner with a ronin moderater and I have dropped my gun on the end of the barrel i have smacked the barrel when walking through a doorway I was shooting on a windy rainy day in a hunting blind and the blind broke and the wind rammed the metal bars into my barrel twice I have even taken my bottle my tensioner my scope the barrel and the stock and put back together and no poi shift with all of the things I just mentioned and can still put an amazing group like this at 100 yds with slugs at 75 fpe
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"Half way through the benchrest match my POI shifted" 
FX POI shift is a myth. Not without external forces causing it or something being loose!
FX POI shift is a myth. Not without external forces causing it or something being loose!
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