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FX  Does FX Maverick really needs heavy/slug barrels?

Agree also. Of course, there’s a point at which physics catches up and if you’re close to that, you may not be getting the “advertised” BC. Also, if you’re shooting at higher altitude, you don’t need as much twist to stabilize because the air is less dense. Even at 4000ft, a 1:22 twist will approach the stability of a 1:18. Ultimately, if you can get away with less twist, the advantage is that less energy is wasted on spin.
Oh, that’s amazing, I didn’t know about that. I usually practice and zero my Maverick at 3000ft altitude, because the farm my family owns is at the hills, and maybe that’s why I got good groups even @150m/165y using 30gr slugs. I was thinking about shooting 40gr slugs @1000fps, it would become almost a 22lr rimfire, but for that I’d need the heavy liner, right?
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.357 slugs

AF Texan .357 Carbine w/24" barrel
After using .355/9mm, .356 115g, 125g,147g., .357 hollow points, .357 polymer tipped slugs over a period of 2 years with very disappointing results at 10.5 yds. I went to my reloading bench and found some Hornady .358 (38 cal) 158 gr. round nose lead bullets from my old PPC days.
What the hell! I'll give them a try.
At 10m my groups went from a very best 1" = 10 moa to a 5 shot 1 hole group off a tethered scuba tank for consistency.
At 50 yds it shot a 1" = 2 moa
They Work for me.
If they don't work for you, I will buy them from you!!

Airforce  Texan .357 vs .457

I have the Bushbuck carbine. You lose some fpe going with the carbine but you also shed about 2 pounds of weight In the gun. Accuracy with my carbine is very good once I found the correct fill pressure For the slugs I am shooting.
If you hunt from a stand the 2# may not mean much but if you are still hunting or spot and stalk that 2# is a lot.

Talk to me about ranging in dark conditions

scotton,
In responding to the original poster, I was offering a potential solution/compromise that seems to help me. I'm using Air Arms 10.34 in a slow poly barrel in my USFT, that is producing a high BC in Hunter class at 19.5fpe. I'm using a zero of 30 yards. My holdover is very reasonable on both long and short shots.. overall my room for error is way less than if my scope was higher than the 2.25" it is now.

So, yes you are right under the conditions you are shooting within... heavier pellets, loopier trajectory, and clicking with a high power scope not set at 16x for Hunter class.

Even in Open or WFTF class, having 3 or 4 full turns to get from zero to a 10 yard target, in my mind is leaving a lot of room for error. When I shoot WFTF PCP class, I try to still keep my scope set at about 2.5 to 2.75" so I don't have more than one full turn when clicking from my zero to a 10 yard or 55 yard shot... but that's just what works best for me.

That 1.28" example you used is looking really good to me for a Hunter class shooter... especially a new one who might have a lot of things to learn about the game.. Keep it simple, seems like a good idea to me. I wouldn't mind fudging my zero and having a 1/16" hold under at 25-30 yards to make a longer flat spot in the trajectory.. again especially for someone learning the game. Most kill zones at 25 to 30 are 3/4" to 1", so being 1/16" high is not much of an issue to me... but even without doing that, it's a really safe trajectory as far as room for error goes.

How many points do your think are lost to competitors who click and make errors clicking from zero down to 10 yards... I know I made that mistake a lot when my WFTF class scope was 3.5"CtC above my barrel, in my early days of FT.
Sorry for the confusion, I was trying to point out that lowering the scope height will not give closer hold overs at long shots. Even though I was replying to you, I was really directing my post to the OP. You already know all of this stuff.

And, yes, I have dropped a shot here and there by being a turn out on the elevation knob, but not as many shots as I've dropped from ranging errors. My current setup is just shy of a full revolution for 10 yards, an advantage of having a 100 click scope instead of a 60 click scope.
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Skout  Epoch - what is the thread size for under stock 4 holes?

I have one imperial size thread gauges but it too big in size to get it into a 1/4" hole
It's for outside threads only
I'll have to get one of these "Nut and Bolt Thread Checker" gauges sets
Ya, I got one i found had it's shortcomings like that.. lesson learned for the next one replacing it ..lol. also if it don't fit it's probably the wrong guage . Like a 4n Guage blade will fit inside a 4m hole..ect kinda thing..


There's been times I took the part in the store and check the bolts at the bolt bin till I found the right one when in doubt..


Sometimes it don't hurt to have a assortment thing around handy

Aztec Emerald… G1 and Athlon Helos G1

I have 2 Aztec Emerald gen 2 scopes. All the write ups I read are about gen 1 scopes. AOA sells them but their literature is about the gen 1 scope. Gen 2 scopes have the large windage and elevation knob and a zero stop. They focus down to less than 10 yards and are very clear. At least mine are. Anybody else got the gen 2? Didn't mean to steal the post.
The G2 is so much better its crazy. Seems improved in most ways. The G1 I had for a while had the worst turrets I've experienced. I've had some sub $100 scopes with better turrets.

The reticle though was never for me.
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has anyone else noticed this

Not specifically on that gun, but yes... have noticed the same on multiple guns. Long as it dont 'wear in' past the point of safety.
I know with springers there used to be a saying about a 'one tin tune', meaning shoot a full tin through it to wear it in proper and smooth it all out, burn off any excess oils, etc.

I know much of that wouldnt apply to the Avenger regarding burning off excess but the mating of sears could certainly apply.

Results  AAFTA 2023 Nationals final results

Congrats to the winners and all those attending. It looks from the scores to have been a really tight and fun match to compete in. I really wish I could have made it but I couldn't make the drive by myself and I couldn't get anyone willing or able to make the trip with me that could help with the driving and expenses. Maybe next year.

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