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Standardized Moderator Testing (free), Discussion Thread

If a moderator is developed which is digital and devises an aperture that closes after the pellet passes through to trap trailing gases, then a major leap forward may occur, but imo that would take

1) Incredible programming
2) Battery power
3) Expense
4) A method to slowly diffuse the trailing gases

Until then, the typical baffled moderator has little to no meat left on its bones to chew on. I sincerely hope to be proven wrong one day but that day isn't today.

-Matt

I think this guy is trying to do that, but withou the digital stuff:

thomas br X pellet Rifle Thunder

These are targets that I made a small modification to be able to print on A4 sheet, but have the same size of WRABF target center. This target was thrown at 25mts.
I like the fact that they look smaller overall size, be cause there are limits that the Farley and SEB rests will go left right, up down. The current USARB targets and WRFBRA are just a hair too large for the 25 yd and meter matches.

Standardized Moderator Testing (free)

This is going to ruffle feathers because it won't be three posts before I start being told how this is impossible, and results will be meaningless, etc... etc... When I push back the argument will become, "I've been doing this since before my grandfather was born... and yada yada". That will finally devolve into a urinary Olympiad the likes of which you have never seen since ..." So my advice to you resident experts with fifty gozillion years experience is simply this, "Don't. Just Don't" Rather just go start your own thread. Put up a poll and ask people who want to fight with you to sign up. I don't want to argue. I just want to test moderators and compile lists with data that actually means something. I don't need a million dollar lab to do that but there are a whole lot of vendors who want you to believe that I do. I will block you AS SOON AS you post looking for a fight.

EDIT: As a matter of fact, I wish there was a way to just block any replies to this post and accept those arrangements via PM... That would let me use this thread as a place to drop the reports as I do them.

That's out of the way.

Anyone, ANYONE at all, who wants to have me evaluate a moderator using the techniques I have recently described here is welcome to send me one to test. I will return that moderator on my dime after testing IF YOU SAY YOU WANT IT BACK.

That said there are some rules:
  • Don't ship me any moderator that is intended for or has ever been used on a PB. I don't want it. Don't send it. You won't get it back because I will destroy it upon receipt as I am not legally allowed to posses it. It is a crime to ship it through the mail and I WILL HAPPILY REPORT YOU.
  • Don't ship me any moderator that is not CLEARLY marked as being for airgun use. CLEARLY marked DURING the MANUFACTURING process. I know that is not a legal requirement BUT IT IS ONE OF MINE. I don't want to make that argument to some hot shot LEO looking to make brownie points with his boss. You won't get it back and if I even THINK it was ever intended or used on a firearm, I will HAPPILY REPORT YOU for shipping it illegally.
  • Don't ship me any moderator that won't run on a "standard" caliber (.17. .22, and .25) or which is not fitted for 1/2 x 20 UNF threads.
More than happy to do the testing, no charge and return the device, my treat. You want two compared? Sure, no problem ... just read the rules.

If you want that done, contact me via PM for a shipping address.

Hello from highly restricted California!

Being an Alabama rednec…..I mean native, shooting is something very common. Things that might bring out the SWAT team in Massachusetts are everyday stuff here. I once had a problem with people stealing things from the front of my house. The 4th time the same officer took the report I asked him if I would get in trouble by sitting on the front porch with a cooler and a 12 gauge. The reply was “try not to shoot anyone.” I’m not kidding and won’t discuss the paintball incident. California is a beautiful place but there are days when I wish it would break off and fall in the ocean.

Rick H.
Well when it does, we all now know toward which State to swim. The Panama Canal locks might be a challenge; I suggest we all rent a yacht.

Airgun Technologies  First generation of Uragan I .22 Cal became insane accurate.

I hadn't shot my G1 King in about 3 months but shot it last week. It took 3-4 shots to settle in(probably needs a going through) but after that was connecting on smallish steel. I worked my way out from 50Y on various shaped steel and when I got to 100Y was hitting the 1" spinner about a 1/4th the time. Then made my way out to 250Y on mid sized steel.

The surprise is how well the .75 G1BC 29gr 25 cal slugs do when the wind is down because it was easy hitting the 250Y fox sized coyote shaped steel that day. These slugs totally out class pellets past a certain point even though they are light for the caliber, however blow in the wind much more than my V3 25cal using 60gr Altaros.

The King is great for plinking because I don't need to fill it until I've loaded the magazine 9 times by which time I'm about done shooting it anyway.
It also bridges the gap well between my 20fpe FT gun and my V3.
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22 Rifle Spring Maintenance and Performance Check-ups - Springers & PCPs

Thanks, Cowboy. Because of this exercise, this evening I got the Air Arms S510 out and dropped the power to level 4, shooting the Benjamin Match 10.5s at about 15.5 fpe. I was able to get the 18 yard, two ten shot group average size down to an average of .0.03. It just takes time and work to find out what is the optimum combination.

I knew it was capable of shooting so Mitch better than I experienced last Saturday.

Results  DIFTA Match Report Sunday, March 24, 2024

DIFTA Match Report Sunday, March 24, 2024

Eight shooters turned out for the opening match of the season. This was a 60-shot match with an average difficulty of 30.9 T, with six targets > 40T, six targets with 0.375”or 0.5” kill zones, and eleven targets at > 40 yards. The match started out sunny and windy, with below freezing temperatures, gradually warming up to 40° by the end of the match. Despite steady rain on Saturday, which caused the match to be postponed, the ground was frozen solid but turned into mud as the temperature climbed. The major challenges were frozen fingers, which made single shot loading a challenge, and variable winds with gusts above 10 mph.

The match high score of 46/60 was shot by Greg White in Hunter Division, followed by Scott Broom, with a tie between Tae Chung and Tom Strong. Mark King led WFTF, with a tie between Paolo Amadeo and Mike Beyerle.

As always many thanks to those who travel long distances to compete and keep our sport alive

ShooterRifleScopePelletDivisionClassScore
Mark KingWalther DominatorMarch 8-80 x 56AA 8.4WFTFPCP37
Paolo AmadeoHW 97KHawke 8-32 x 56JSB Exact 8.44WFTFPiston29
Mike BeyerleHW 97KElement HelixHN BFT 9.57WFTFPiston29
Greg WhiteFX Crown Mk IIFalcon X50 FTFX 13.4HunterPCP46
Scott BroomHW97KVortex 16JSB 8.4HunterPiston40
Tae ChungBSA R10Athalon ArgosAA 10.5HunterPCP35
Tom StrongFX CrownAztec Emerald FFPHN 10.5HunterPCP35
Mark MayerThomas CarbineSightron 10-50 x 60JSB 13.4OpenPCP31

Paolo Amadeo acted as match Director.

The next match at DIFTA is on Saturday April 20.
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SCBA Tank Valve Assembly. Saber Tactical????

The question I have it, can you get your bottle filled at scuba shops with the ST or other airgun specific valves? Standard SCBA valves are a standard just about commercial shops can fill, not sure if commercial shops will fill using just foster fitting.
In my area, no SCUBA shop will fill past about 3500, and none that I have called have Foster fittings, only K-valve or DIN. Two paintball places can fill to 310 bar and have Foster fitting capability. YMMV

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