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Favorite El Cheapo’s

I have a thing for cheap (inexpensive) lead & bb slingers. Fiddling with the triggers. Tuning. Customizing. Getting good accuracy. All types-PCP, Spring, C02, Pnumatic, rifles and pistols. These are some of my favorites. Diana Stormrider, Benjamin 397, Diana Chaser, Daisy 753, Hatsan 95, Crosman 760, Diana Chaser Pistol, Tangfolio Witness, Legends Luger, Ruger MKIV. Let’s see your favorite “Cheapo’s”.View attachment 562607View attachment 562608View attachment 562609View attachment 562610View attachment 562611
Em are some nice looking guns!

Huben  Huben GK1 Price increase seems extreme

If I thought about it before buying the package with case and moderator I wouldn’t have.
I was never going to use irons anyway. I’ll try some other mods tomorrow.
I m trying a scope now but will go to a red dot I think. Just mount to the existing rail with the picatiny inserts.
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FX  I just gotta vent...

I ordered a transfer port for my DRS to convert it to 600mm. I already had the barrel housing and liner.

The first transfer port had an issue, the liner wouldn't go in at all; it was an extremely tight fit.
The second one had the opposite problem, it wouldn’t fit into the block without sanding and polishing.


It’s clear the quality control has taken a hit. Makes me wonder if they’re still manufacturing these parts in-house.
I’ve been questioning this about some of their guns. So I can see where you’re coming from with components also. When you have older guns that feel better than their new guns, plus some other clues, it’s caused me to raise an eyebrow. And stop all purchases moving forward.

New Apolo .22 18gr Slugs

Ninguna de las balas de apolo son decentes, pero estas de 18 son pesimas, las probe en mi avenger X desde 800 a 930 fps y son espatosos los grupos, ni siquiera pegan 2 en el mismo lugar ni cerca, una verdadera basura.
Eso me paso a mi, pero entre velocidades de 900 hast 1000fps y no agrupan mas pequeño de 6 pulgadas a 30yd!

Taipan  Taipan Veteran Long finding it’s legs

I picked up this Taipan Veteran long in .25 on the classifieds here about a year ago. It has an extended plenum, external dial power adjuster, and a Donny FL Koi. I found an Element Titan 5-25x56 on the classifieds a few months later and mounted it up.

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I finally am getting it ready to put lead on target. Today, I ran a mag of JSB 34 grainers over the chrono to confirm speed so I can get an idea of a zero and trajectory in chair gun.

10 shots 33.95 JSB. Fps:
918
919
920
916
913
919
917
909
921
915

Averaging about 917fps for around 64fpe.
In spite of all this power, it is SO quiet. All I hear is the hammer spring.

Can’t help but be impressed by the Vet.
-pg
Yes indeed 👍
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Results  Meeker’s 2nd N50 match

Where do you see his score 744/38 @TheAirgunnero ? I see Tim’s scores as 721/15 and 709/17 posted on the N50 website leader board. Aha, I see the score written on his certificate When I zoomed in. I’ll replace that certificate on our next match. Thanks for catching that error.

Not sure why the date is wrong on the certificates? I’ll blame it on human error.
744 and 38x‘s is another shooters score.…..human error or you can blame it on me because I wasn’t seeing correctly that day.
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Beeman  Qb 79 Pcp

Like Scott said, running a QB79 on air can be as simple as threading on a Ninja paintball tank.

A good place to start is Bob’s walkthrough on modding one for power and efficiency.

Here’s an example of one I built up back when I first got into airguns

Or a more recent one that uses a lightweight hammer and PEEK poppet. This one is very pleasant to shoot.
Thanks for your reply. It's good that it's not difficult to convert. I saw that Beeman has the model pcp " QB Chief" . Which do you recommend? The QB79 or the QB Chief? Is the QB79 noisy? Or did you install a suppressor?

FX  Crown Magazines in a DRS

Has anyone else tried to use the standard Crown, Wildcat, Maverick magazines in their DRS?

I own two Crowns and have also owned several other FX rifles which all used the same magazine. That made life simple and a bit less expensive. I have also uses Stud Loader, CARM and Orion magazines. The variety allowed me to get what I was specifically after.

When I bought the DRS I assumed that the Crown magazines would work because I saw a video by Sub12 Airgunners where he showed how to modify the larger mags to reduce the spring tension. Little did I realize that he was using the latest version of the larger mags (the one with two screws on the back and two o-rings on the front. But I wanted to be able to use all of my old magazines!

The old ones just tend to fall out of the breach - the culprit is that the location of the o-ring on the older mags is in a position where it never engages with the DRS block (see picture below. The magazine is fully inserted in the picture and the action will cycle. It is just too loose and wants to slide out.

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My solution was to 3D print some new magazine covers with two o-rings in different locations. Below is a picture of the old mag cover, the Mini mag (which comes with the DRS) cover, and my 3D printed cover. Note the position of the o-rings.

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These positions allow the orings to engage the block and hold the magazine securly in place. I also modified the underside as I don't need the added depth for long pellets that the circular grooze in the old mag cover provides. However, I did need to put in a small groove as there is a small pin on the rotating piece in the mag that sticks up and makes contact with the cover if there is not a groove. See my last pic.

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I did the drawing in Sketchup Pro, coverted to an STL file then printed on my Bambu P1S. If anyone wants the files I will be happy to share them. Just reply to this posting and let me know what file type you want.


Cheers,
Greg

Results  May 10 TEXtreme Rifle & Pistol Field Target Match Report

Thirteen shooters took advantage of the opportunity to get quality, high-level competition practice for the upcoming 2025 TEXtreme Grand Prix and State Championships to be held (weather permitting) Friday through Sunday, June 6-8. Last Saturdays rain-date match featured lovely, partly-cloudy weather, mid-70s temperatures, and typical for TEXtreme tricky winds.

All thirteen shooters contested Saturdays Rifle match. Derrick Wall confirmed his game still stellar, prevailing for the Match Winner hat-pin with an impressive 38/40 score. Derrick shot an Athlon Aeres scoped .30 Kalibrgun Cricket 2 Tac, firing 56 grain Zan pellets; presumably near the 100 foot pound power limit. Outstanding shooting DW! 👍

John Tafoya prevailed in the 36/40 tie for second place virtue of the tie-breaker (most perfect, 4/4 lanes). JT cleaned seven of the ten lanes with his .30 caliber Red Wolf topped with a Tract Optics scope, and shooting 45 grain AEA pellets 905 FPS. Great shooting, John!

Caleb Dickenson used a SIghtron S8 scoped .30 Scout Evo, shooting 56 grain Zans 875 FPS for third place. Good shooting, CD.

Nine shooters contested the Extreme Pistol FT match, shot simultaneously on the same course but different targets as the rifle match. The rifle course was mid-thirties Troyer difficulty, the pistol course low 40s T.

The far target on lane 10 was mis-ranged 10 yards short on the scorecards due to a Match Director brain-fart. Consequently all the pistol shooters were given credit for two hits on that illegal (59 yard) target. To add injury to insult, upon discovering his scope magnification at 20X midway through my third lane:oops:, the match directors only option was disqualification.👎

Derrick Wall added the Pistol Match Winner hat-pin to his Rifle pin with a fine 36/40 score. Derrick’s .20 caliber Brocock Commander P wears a Discovery VT-T scope, and produces 805 FPS with 13.73 grain JSB pellets. Awesome shooting, D!

Caleb Dickenson came second in the pistol match with an excellent 32/40 score. Caleb’s Brocock Pathfinder shoots 13.43 grain .177 JSB pellets 795 FPS, and wears an Athlon Midas Tac scope. Great shooting Caleb.

Jim Clarke was third in the pistol match with a 31/40, shot with a Hawke Opticed Brocock Atomic firing 16 grain AA pellets. Good shooting, Jim.

Two shooters shot Fun Rifle Class on the pistol course targets. John Tafoya posted a 35/40 score with his .177 Daystate Red Wolf, shooting 10.3 grain AA pellet 930 FPS, and topped with a Sightron S3 scope. Buddy Walters was just a point behind with a 34/40, shooting 10.34 pellets 880 FPS in his Continental scoped .177 Daystate Wolverine.

Here’s hoping the upcoming 2025 TEXtreme Grand Prix and State Championships to be held Friday through Sunday, June 6-8 enjoy as nice weather as did last Saturdays matches.🤞 Y’all come, ya’ hear?

Happy Shooting,
Ron & Maggyy

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Scba filling valve questions

I got the valve in, and have used it. I actually really like it. The o ring blew out the first time I used it but I just took the one off the SCBA valve and it has been working fine. Fill probe on the valve is one way so n need to add an extra valve in the line from the compressor. Obviously can’t speak to longevity yet bus so far so good.

Eyeglasses or not?

Just a few curious questions? For those who have to wear eyeglasses.
1. Do you have single vision or Bi focal?
2. Do you remove them to site trough your scope or leave them on?
3. Do you find that shooting without your glasses more or less accurate?
4. Can you focus through the scope better with or without glasses?

Thanks for your answers, and replies.

I have Bi focals (progressives)
Usually leave them on at public ranges, due to safety glasses requirements
I can shoot much more accurately without them, as I seem to have to move my head around with glasses in order to get a good line of sight through the scope.
I can focus better without my glasses, even though I have astigmatism.

Ataman  What do you guys think of the Ataman AP16?

I rated superb though it is definitely not perfect. I find it to be a quality piece in fit and finish, it's very accurate, reasonably powered and air efficient. Styling while subjective, I think she's a beauty. My biggest con is that one must be considerate/aware of how low the pressure is getting while shooting, if too low on pressure it tends to let all the air out after a shot. I typically shoot 3 mags and top off, I can usually get 4 mags on a fill but charge early as caution.

More rat kills. Slow motion. 4th clip in is a cannibal rat.

I used to have a dairy down the road with the same type of intense ratting action. Alas, it is no more…
His farm is more recreational type. Horses, ducks and chickens of various types , alpaca’s, sheep. Grain, food and cover everywhere. Perfect for ratting.

Sportsmatch mount advice R9 (HW95) and Athlon Heras 6-24x56

I have another Athlon Heras 6-24x56 coming for my R9. I currently have one on my HW50s. I am starting to shoot Hunter Field Target at the moment. My HW50s is at about 11 ft/pounds and my R9 is just shy of 15. Both are .177.
I bought Sportsmatch 30 mm High (HT036C) for the HW50s. Because there is only 2 inches between the end of the scope and the loading port the sunshade won’t fit. Never mind - that’s not the fault of the mount. Also, the scope is so close to the receiver that the lens cap won’t fit either. I can live with that as well.
My question is what mounts would you recommend for the same scope and the R9? I’m going to take the Hawks off it. I believe there should be enough length to accommodate the sunshade and the lens cap, but I don’t want them to touch the receiver.
I’ve looked on the forum, and YouTube and seen options, but it would be helpful if someone with a HW95/R9 would chime in. I see that some worry about the fully adjustable one piece mounts shaking with recoil. There are some individually adjustable two piece mounts, but I am not clear on how one can adjust an individual mount without making uneven pressure on the scope tube?

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