I believe you couldn't go wrong with either one. Both are made very well, I heard Epic is made by Taipan guys? Both have power and both shoot pellets and slugs with aplomb....sorry, no help from me...... But, if going .30 I would choose Mora as I have seen videos on that caliber and it was very QUIET in .25 so would think a .30 would be tame for my tastes.

Florida_Man said:

My first PCP was great, an early FX Royale 22 unregulated. I wish I had it still. The walnut stock fit me like a glove.


This Atomic is perfect for everything I NEED an air rifle to do.

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I warned you about the Atomic asserting itself… am sitting here ogling mine…

I’m not sure those larger calibers are available in copper clad but it might be worth looking into? I know they are available in .22 though.

BlackICE said:

A semi-auto may not be as useful is you imagine. Many times a animal getting shot moves very quickly in a random direction, hard for follow up shots even with a semi-auto. The area has to be free from obstructions with a safe backstop in every direction you may be shooting.

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There was a video somewhere on this forum of a raccoon or possum taking a full auto burst. As the shots ran higher the animal dropped down at the shot before running. Resulted in only 1 or 2 good hits with the rest going high.

I think it was @dizzums thread but the video has been removed. @dizzums can you confirm? Would you be willing to repost that video?

I'm assuming youtube deleted your video and could be reposted on something like Rumble. We need to get away from youtube censorship for our videos.

Ok, so if the Skout EVO on/off is M18x1.5 we should be good to go? I know a lot of there stuff is imperial so need a confirmation from SKOUT.

Nice....!!!! let us all know how you get along with that rig

Last week I posted about the joy of seeing and shooting after cataract surgery. I was further inspired by the reports of using iron sights again. It was so great to see my sights on my old Gamo Silver Shadow 1000 .177. All was going good till I couldn’t sight it in at 25yds. All shots low. Thought spring or seal was shot, nope ,crono at 815 avg. Well I had to try my first barrel bending. Happily after many attempts I got it pretty good, may have to tweak it a bit later. Too darn hot today, 93f real feel 99. Any way my shots are all in a 3 inch Shoot n’ see at 25 yds. That’s a good enough group for today.. I used to have a scope on it for years and never realized a barrel droop. Stay well all

Very nice course. A little humid but a nice day to shoot FT.
Rick B.

Yes I did get to do some shooting. But I was having trouble with the scope. Turns out I need hi mount rings. With the mid point rings it’s hard to see through the scope. I have to push my face hard against the cheek piece. Kinda peek through the scope.

TL100 said:

I'm in San Ramon, CA.

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Sorry to reopen this thread, but do you still do repairs? I’m over my head with a fix bobcat.

I’m In Pleasanton.

I shoot pellets and slugs on the same tune thru my RAW .22 and Taipan V2 550mm .22. I tune for the 18gr pellets as I shoot pellets daily (slugs for pesting) and for my PCP's, I have to have much higher speeds to accommodate for the slugs which are quite a bit slower because of friction. The pellets are going 970fps thru my RAW and NSA 17.5gr are going 940fps, while the Taipan shoots 18gr @ 975fps and AVS 20gr slugs @ 930fps.

Aggy said:

They do I have one for my presslug press and another for my Corbin press , both very good

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Could you show a couple of groups showing accuracy of the GMI swaged slugs Mick?
"Both very good", that's a bit vague.

Caliber 22 said:

If there are no barrel harmonics, why does barrel tuners and indexing work to improve presision on some pcp's and even break barrels?

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Cool video, would have been nice to capture the pellet leaving or frame by frame to correlate the movemetnt.

Smitty

I agree that is a bummer…. I have never hunted turkeys but have been interested. Never knew you had to use shotguns.

My HW95 shoots Crosmans just fine. The patterns have a few close "flyers". No biggie. Unless you are trying to shoot your best pattern possible it does not make a bunch of difference.

Mine likes the HN FTT 14.3 in the 5.53 or 5.54 head size best. The JSB 14.9 is good too. The JSB 15.8 are a little better past 50 yards. But the crosmans are almost as good as any out to about 50. Past that you begin to see a little more difference in group size using Crosmans.

The POI changes between pellet types. The Crosmans shoot high left on all my rifles as compared to the others mentioned. And they make your fingers black. Neither one negate their value for me. I shoot them by the bucketfull.

Both my HW's and the D54 have yielded the same results. I think the Hatsans like the Crosmans best. I shoot them mostly iron sight and havent compared a lot of pellets. They shoot like lasers in those guns and can easily put one on a shotgun shell out to 45-50 yards.

In none of my rifles do the Crosmans shoot wildly. Just not quite as tight as the rest. And they are half the price of a tin of JSB's.

I like 'em!

...my observations in my rifle in my limited experience. Your mileage may vary

RickH said:

There’s dumb and then there’s stupid. Two very different problems.

Rick H.

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I prefer ignorant vs stupid. Ignorant is not knowing something, stupid is when you know it and do it anyway.
It was nice dating a dumb lady for a while, I was getting tired of hearing I was doing something wrong. (joking of course)

Smitty

I forgot to say, if it was me that had a issue like this, and the place layout allowed for it, i would just do like riot police would do, put a PTZ camera on a tall mast and film people in the act, that is the ones not wearing the now mandatory ski mask for protesting.

I think you can connect directly to a IP camera and then on a phone control its Pan Tilt and Zoom, but assuming again CUZ i of course do not have anything wifi, well not that i would use regularly, and even so it is mostly Toys like the dashcams i also dabble in, and i am sure had my old eyes been better so i could read the little camera screens, i would not use phone to do settings ASO

Rizz01 said:

I swear, they totally inflict "this" on us!
There's always gonna something they can throw at us..

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Yep. Just when I think they are running out of things to take our money, someone makes a video that convinces the airgun world there is a new thing to concern ourselves with. And life just can’t go on until we throw money at it. Either buying a trinket or selling an extra couple pounds of lead to every airgunner as he spins in circles over it.

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And now my head hurts.

Smitty

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+1!!!

Scotchmo said:

Scopes generally don’t use the rounded “military” milliradian. These days, MIL scopes use true milliradians. So let’s quit bringing the “military” milliradian into the argument.

As far as MIL vs MOA: To me, they are not metric or inch. They are both units of angle. Radians vs degrees. A MIL scope uses milliradians (1/1000 of a radian). An MOA scope uses minute of angle (1/60 of a degree). My calculator can work in degrees or radians. So I can work in either.

I prefer the finer increments of MOA these days, especially for my higher magnification scopes that I click. Up to 16x, I have no problem using SFP MIL-DOT reticles.

There is also the “shooter’s MOA”. That’s not an angle. It’s 1” change at 100yds. It’s close enough to the tangent of a true MOA so that many shooters use them interchangeably. Though that strategy won’t hold up for precision shooting.

For my FFP scopes, I always want matched turrets and reticles. For my holdover MIL-dot SFP scopes, I actually prefer having mismatched turrets and reticles. Shooter’s MOA turrets and MIL-dots make a good combination for that type of scope.

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I’m curious. What benefit do you notice from having mismatch turrets and reticles? Up until a couple years ago mismatched scopes were all I knew and when finally got a scope that matched and learned how to use it, I loved it. It just makes things like a one shot zero so easy.

Yep. Got that. The tune I have is basically unchanged from the .22 CZ 20” bbl shooting 22gr pellets at 899.. Just a bbl swap to a 20” .177 LW. With no changes to the tune, I get 1025fps with 10gr JSB Knockout slugs and 925 with 13gr Zan slugs. Approximately 23fpe and 25fpe, respectively The 8gr PolyMags I tried definitely had less resistance so you’re probably right about the 8.5gr Zan non-lead being slower because of the metal composition and surface area. Fun to try maybe

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Uh, what?
Plinking at 100 yards?
Dude, I thought "I" was the only person who does that!
We must be related somehow.....

The first two years with airguns costed me all legs and arms and a left kidney not to mention the liver. I had about that volume of selection what Florida Man show in pictures earlier or maybe even more.
It toke me about next two years to plink away like a drunken soldier, what pellets and amo I will never use again.
Last two years I keep a single pellet in .25 and 3 pellets in .22 for all my ring games @ 50 and @ 100. I am glad I gave up on slugs very early after couple months of hair ripping.
I was watching here and there couple threads about new pellet designed and new sources...........sorry guys, I don't trust anything new that is just a cloning of existing...same with slugs.
Also... No pellet or slug dies for me. Placebo only in my eyes.