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Air Venturi  Avenger-x. 177 Round 2: Low Power

drpietrzak
I think I have found my out to 50-yards setup for my .177 Avenge-X. As a newbie I didn't want to mess with "tuning" the rifle until I am more comfortable. My goal was to find a combination that performed as well as my TX200 MKIII at 50-yards. The TX200 shoots about .60" to .80" at 50-yards.

Previously I tried 6 commonly good pellets on the high setting of my Avenge-X. A couple were promising but at 950 fps to 960 fps for 10.5 grain seemed too hot. There was some looping taking place.

This round I dropped to the low setting. Low runs about 820 fps to 830 fps with 10.5. The SDs were 1 fps to 2 fps. I tried a couple H&Ns, AA 10.3's and Benjamin 10.5 grain.

The AAs were shooting about 0.50" at 50-yards. It was repeatable over different days. So a .177 shooting 0.50 at 50-yards seems good to me.

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N/A  Question regarding Webely Senior

Sawney Bean
Steveoo said:
Here's my take of owning all the models since the late 70s as a boy in England....

The Junior....A beautiful compact little thing that is a big step up for a youngster having owned pop out barrel plunger pistols. Twice as powerful and 3 times more accurate.
With no rifling pellets do start to tumble much above 10 yards going in sideways but perfect at 6 yards.
I once tuned one to 400 fps about the power of a modern SSP ....surprising myself..

Webley Mk1... A single cocking link version of the later improved Seniors and Premier double linkage...makes this a tough gun to cock but it's a goody.
The adjustable trigger (dropped for the Senior) can be adjusted down to almost match levels...far better than the Tempests but we warned about setting too light on this model. Easy done and can
Prove disastrous if it goes off while loading.
I played with improved design leather seals making one of these about as accurate as any Webley pistol could be. I have a tune report with chrony results on this site...

Webley Senior.....the best made and most powerful Webley. The piston ring allows a longer stroke than the other pistols allowing more power but let down by a tough trigger acting direct on the sear and no adjustment.
It was however, the peak of air pistol smithing and nothing that went before it, or after was better made and never will be again....You need to keep the piston ring lubricated. ...Constant attention...or it wears out.

The Premier....This pistol is an often mentioned favourite because on paper it offers the advantage of the double cocking linkage of the Senior paired with the adjustable trigger of the MK 1 and a modern seal but for me it never matched the Senior. The issue with the Premier is the inconsistency created by the temp senisitive Teflon or Polyurethane seal.
The seal would also tend to oversize with constant use and make the gun a bit slower than it's piston ring cousin.
I finally mastered this issue by designing a leather seal but it required permenent modification to the piston which collectors were not keen on doing.

The Tempest...
This might just be the best looking and most purposeful pistol of all time. It is somehow better fed in appearance than the better made steel variants but never quite matched them without major tuning.
The trigger is adjustable but nowhere near as good as the Mk1 or Premier unless you follow the tuning advice on line. Then it can be..
The gun gets grip options to improve its looks and handling further. The Teflon pistol seal can be erratic to temperature but can be improved with feather edging...Again I toyed with Leather seal designs and modification of the piston to get a couple of these where I wanted them for close range ratting...

The Hurricane....Not really so much for me, as I feel something is lost by having the sight extension ...added length and bulk and longer barrel barrel with shroud but many will disagree with me for the longer sight base and click adjust trigger...
I once fitted the longer barrel of a Hurricane to a Tempest. Giving an improved sight radius without spoiling the looks and compactness of the rear sight mount..... A great compromise as it turned out.

I omitted a few variants as too much to cover ....Straight grip Seniors, Mk1s and alloy Premiers/Juniors...

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Thanks. That really breaks it all down for me and was exactly what I was looking for. I've wanted one of these pistols since I was a teenager and first saw them in the Beeman catalogs back in the 80's, but I've never actually handled one, much less been able to compare the various models side by side. It sounds like either a Premier or a Tempest would be the best choice. Premiers seem to cost a bit more and are a little more scarce, but neither one is particularly hard to find online.
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So many bandits

Ranchibi
Dr. Kralenstein said:
Got one on the cuff last night. He knocked over my steel plate backstop trying to get free. That weighs close to 60lbs. It's 3/4" thick. He's lucky the shooting bucket caught the plate, or he would've been crushed by it or at least stuck under it til I got out to pop him!


Woke up around 5am and shined my red torch down to the bait station and saw his eyes glowing. They sure do break dance!

He was a little smaller than the typical ones around here. Closer to 10-15lbs.

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Fantastic shot and video! Nice pic too 👍
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Are Zbroia Rifles Still Being Made?

Ezana4CE
At least owners can still communicate with the manufacturer directly. That’s a plus regarding support. The rifles seem to be well built. I imagine that no major hardware issues abound. I’d expect o-rings and consumable parts like a valve seats and springs to need maintenance and/or replacement periodically.
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Western Airguns  Sidewinder - Easy hack for better efficiency and lower noise

weevil
AlanMcD said:
Thanks for that Weevil. I'll have to give it a try. I am curious about two things though . . .

First, did you try it on multiple mags, and were the results the same? When I adjusted my .22 SW, I made sure it dod not jam with either of my two mags, but I was not trying to optimise things as much as you did by tweaking the mags.

Also, I wonder if polishing the end of the barrel might yield further improvements . . .

Thanks again. I'll have to give this a try at some point, but it will be at least a few weeks before I can do so.
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Hi Alan,

Good question. I only have one mag and having more would likely lead to a less optimized gap. I also haven’t worked on the barrel because it’s not as easy for me to make sure that it remains square. There’s probably more to be gained at the other side of the mag and I was looking at it and wondering if that gap is adjustable, or if it could be modified to use a puck, like the Leshiy 2. Perhaps even opening up the holes on the magazine faceplate so that the air is hitting more of the pellet rather than a metal wall. As you know the Huben is much quieter and it lacks that backplate. Hmmm….
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Stoeger  Bullshark XM1 safety

J
My P35-25 is my least accurate P35 with a best 30 yard challenge score of 194. That was using JSB Heavies MKII. I'm assuming your P35 is a 25. It was pretty accurate with H&N FTTs with my previous tune. It was pretty much the stock tune. But my P35-177 absolutely hates JSB knockout slugs which others report great accuracy with. The other bullshark I did a little work on in 22 shot H&N Baracuda Match the best of any pellet I tried in it which is the favorite of my P35-22 (has done a 200). So it's hard to say. If you are indeed shooting a 25 I would definitely try the FTTs and JSB Heavies. Without a power plenum the heavies won't be doing more than 750 fps but that wouldn't be terrible. But your's could like 25.4s. FTTs did great on squirrels. I never lost one and most of the 18 I shot with them were DRT (16 of 18). The 22 caliber Baracudas my P35-22 prefers are actually heavier. But who cares. A pellet in the right place makes much more difference than how heavy it is or exactly how fast it's going.
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Anyone know where i can get rubber steel washer for fx impact mk2?

R
If you have a bottled gas supplier in your area, bring it in to them and you can compare sizes with what they stock. I recommend that type of seal for use with oxygen E cylinders on carts, they seal better than the Delrin plastic type washers typically supplied.
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RAW Micro Hunter Moderator

JungleShooter
Ghostranger169 said:
Manufacturers may or may not announce these changes in production.
These .177/.22 moderators in the attached pics were purchased a little over 1 year apart and sound totally different:

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Your post is DISGUSTING!

Well, I mean: What you exposed of the manufacturers hiding significant product changes from their customers who have grown to TRUST them — that's what's DISGUSTING. 😖


I really appreciate your post 👍🏼 and the inherent warning:
⚠️ Buyer, beware when the manufacturers want to sell you apples for oranges....

Matthias
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.177 Hades. Hero to Zero

J
It was a nice cool calm Saturday morning. My loving wife knows how twitchy I get when any of my guns powder burners or air are not performing to my vexpectations so I was given a pass on honey dues to get my mental airgun drama packed away.
After taking in all of the information, ideas and suggestions along with a little more research I took my new tins of pellets to the back half and bagged up.
I first shot the Benjamin and then the Gamo Urban.
When I shot the Urban my 1st group With the Hades was trashy, then by chance someone texted me so put my reading glasses on and I then looked at the tin of Hades .22 and could see quite a few pellets that had bent skirts,
So.. with glasses on reloaded my mag to shoot another group. I whent through 14 pellets to get a full 10 round mag, then I shot the second group, I know realize the importance of sorting and culling the junk. Thanks again everyone for your time and imput!!
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N/A  Compressor question

R
I bought a Yong Heng clone off Temu, 160 bucks with a 20 off coupon and free shipping. So far so good. I sacrificed an old plastic cooler for a water tank, the pump sits on top of the cooler. I may make some mounts to get rid of the coolers lid yet still lift up the pump to add ice. I ran an airline from my dental compressor and installed a 1/4" QD male in place of the pump air intake. Super dry super clean air is a good thing to start with, I regulate that down to under 10 PSI so as not to load the pump with air pressure in. Filled my new Beeman 2028 from empty in about one minute. A nice sieve was supplied with, heck the sieve looks like 160 bucks by itself.
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