OkWinemaker said:

Did your groups get any better or worst, or no real difference? This sounds pretty drasti.

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I think it helped .. I got some gamo group threads here I think . I done hatsan and he with that .. like I said don't go silly and scrub the heck out of it . Just a few pulls to smooth out and rough spots or set in grime . Lol

Mine is 10plus years old and I can't find any decent accuracy with it. I think my problem is the terrible trigger. I just got some 18 H&N barracuda's extremes to try but not holding my breathe.

The 4.5x size marked on the JSB/AA tin label is nominal, and has no bearing on the diameter of the pellet head nor skirt.

The important information is the die number, and date of manufacture. If your rifles shoots best with a particular die and date, buy as many as you can.

Reidy said:

I don't know if your found your leak yet? But I've been finding a common leak that sounds like it's a valve leak but is in fact an external leak from the receiver block.

The pin is called an axle on the schematic drawing. If you remove this part from the airgun and it's easy to pull away, the orings are junk. They've been dry rotting. It's an easy fix but a frustrating one to find if you don't know about these orings.

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I've replace these two o-rings twice already - along with many others - finding the same thing - o-rings are deformed and both hard and brittle. These are also an o-ring that the kit includes in two different durometers (70 & 90) - same size but different softness - if you gently squeeze the o-rings sideways, the softer ones easily squish out of round between fingers and the higher durometer ones are noticeably stiffer - require effort to deform them - only obvious if you have one of each to feel the difference.

The brass "plug" that the block fits into also has had deformed and brittle o-rings on it for me but I had to make a tool to unscrew it without damaging it.

Hampton said:

This guy is number 46 in the last 2 months. They just keep coming. My yard looks like I haven’t killed any. Huben K1 .22, NSA .219 20.2 @970ish. View attachment 494150

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Nice! By chance have you tried shooting those .219 further out? Or other .219 weights?

Dime size groups at 50 yards is pretty good marksmanship, in my book at least

Firewalker said:

All things being equal would leave velocity and mass the same and the smaller projectile would penetrate further.

All things are not equal and thousands of ballistic studies, ALL of the ballistics manuals and any calculator you find online will tell you that speed = penetration.

It's more than a good idea, it's the law*.

*ballistics law

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That's why I said all other things being equal, with it being clearly implied that the variables were the velocity and mass (my example of 16 vs 18gn pellets shot from same gun with the same tune). Your comment of "speed = penetration" does not apply in that very very common scenario, and likely would confuse people to think that the 16gn pellet would get more penetration than the 18gn simply because the 16gn is moving faster.

For hunting purposes (the crux of this thread), speed does not equal penetration. Momentum = penetration. The 18gn pellet would have more momentum and would get more penetration.

Hello, I have been a small dealer since last year and have always struggled to find quality guns in a lower pricepoint. Although I have sold some nicer guns many people new to the sport just can't or won't jump onto the high end guns at first. I got in a variety of calibers of Stoeger bullsharks and scouts today. As always I like to throw a few patches down the barrel. The bullpup is 9 rounds in .22 and the rifle is 10 rounds in .22. I mounted up some Bushnell Prime scopes because I feel like you get a lot for your money when they mark those down so low. First thing I noticed is these both seem to easily try to double feed so you have to watch that and never force the lever. Its something you learn to watch for in certain guns. The targets are 35 yards and this was the first mag sent through these guns so some more fine tuning needs to happen but I always atleast do this much before selling a gun. They both came full of air so obviously no leaks. They are regulated. They claim to be factory suppressed but I always prefer to add moderators. They seem to shoot great for the money. I feel like these a good addition to retail sales since they perform well at lower pricepoint.

My P35 in 25 seemed to get significantly more accurate with JSB MKII heavies when I added the Extreme Airguns plenum. It got me up around 800 fps instead of down around 730 fps. I would think the Bullshark would be 20-30 fps faster due to the longer barrel. Stock my gun seemed to shoot best with H&N FTTs (which are only 20 grains). Doesn't look like Florida Man's bullshark like them even a little bit, however.

Are any of the Mfr.s using quad rings vs. O-rings. Quad rings look like a square profile o ring, much more resistant to extrusion. A quad ring fills the groove it goes in better than an oring.

Thread closed. DO not do business with the former member in question. Continued dog-pile on the former member does not mesh with the Airgun Nation vision.

I have a M853 that I need to shoot weekly, PCP’s have gotten in the way


I shoot my pest rifle daily. From the position I pest from. Practice and knowing the rifle is ready is critical.

How else can one get hold of him?

Ezana4CE said:

If you're talking about trying a newer GoPro for a film-through-scope system the question is, who has developed a system to mount the newer GoPro's to a scope? I've been wondering this.

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Eagle vision have already made a mount and lens for the gopro 10/11/12. But it is like $344USD or 310 euros. Not including shipping. My question is. Have anyone order one and try it out. Cause I can not find any video of anyone using it. Cause the gopro 10/11/12 can record in 4k 120fps and 2.7k 240 fps. I have the old gopro 7 with eagle vision 12mm lens. But it will only do 2.7k 120 fps or 1080p 240 fps. I wanted to know if its worth the upgrade to get an gopro 11 or 12 and also get the eagle vision mounts. Both together will total about $600-700. Or just stick with my gopro 7.

Hi Richard, Thanks for the offer it is much appreciated.

Dairyboy said:

Looks good! So do you have 3? Thought you had a gray one? Also looks like you have something between the shroud and front rail mount? Might just be your mount for the dope card but can't tell

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Headshots said:

The 10.3s have been giving me my best groups but I'm always looking for more accuracy. I will have to try some 8.4s now . My .177 shorty is a fun pester that's not overpowered , smooth and quiet.

Nice looking setup.

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Dairyboy,
The Grey lam was ( Stock Only ) traded for the Red one ... same action. Yes Pic rail has a cover over the unused portion.
Headshots,
Agree in the @ 20fpe range 10.3's are generally my go too pellet .. go figure ?

Backyard AirGuns - Mike said:

Thanks for the support!
This video was part 3 of 4. In the part 2 video on this rifle I shoot 5-shot groups at the 860ish fps and they shot really good. I'm sure the 940 to 960 fps would result in very accurate results. I wanted to show the viewers that this rifle and ammo combination seem to break the rules on accuracy for shooting pellets at 1,100 fps.
The Red Panda is made in the same factory that AEA is made. The RP has an AEA backbone. The rifle is the brainchild of Thayne Stewart and DonnyFL (Donny Du). The spec on the rifle are over the top. The rifle with no scope weights 17 pounds. Let me repeat that... 17 pounds out for the box. It has a solid Bull barrel that gives it such great accuracy. I have several videos on this rifles shooting 100 accuracy. I will be shooting it at Pyramyd Cup next week and at EBR in October.

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This is the biggest backstory to Karma airguns that I have seen so far. They should do a proper story on their company.

JaceSpace1369 said:

What would you say the limitation is distance wise, using the thermal for animals in the squirrel or armadillo size? Can you make them out 40-50yds out? Or are you just getting a head signature? Also, do you have issue finding your quarry under 30yds with the day and night function given that they start at 5x?

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I've been digging through videos on this item as I just recently ordered one and I've seen sheep that are easily identifiable at 325 yards.

So safe to assume it exceeds the effective range of pretty much anything on this forum.

Justaguy said:

Should airguns come with a disclaimer… If a person is scared to change an O-ring… should they buy an Airgun?

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Dave

Little did you know when you started this thread, that you would invoke such a response.

I will say that my two Anschutz .22 LR Rimfires require almost ‘no maintenance.’ No O-rings, no hammer springs, no regulators, no air leaks, no valve issues, etc. For that, I love to bring them to my range because I never worry about these issues. They always work and I love to shoot paper targets at distance for informal AGN N50 target challenges.

That said, I love air rifles for many of the obvious reasons which are well documented on this forum.

So, back to your question. Should you buy an air rifle if ‘ you are afraid to replace an O-ring?’

My intuition is that a new PCP owner needs to thoroughly understand what he/she is getting into with this hobby. Then, decide if you want to dip your toe in the water, or jump in!

I enjoy both hobbies, and accept my limitations for difficult AG repairs.

Nice post, very valid points and sentiments. And if I could add anything, at some level, we ALL don't know what we don't know.

JoeWillie said:

Right in between Dayton and Cincinnati.

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Same here! Same drive.

maxtrouble said:

Never tried them, thanks for the recommendation. Will have to try these out. I have a .22 Huntsman Regal unregulated. Awesome rifle. My first PCP. Shoots the 16 grain JSB/AA/FX pellets like a laser.

I used to go to Mammoth Springs all the time when I lived in Memphis. Great place to get out of Memphis and all that damn humidity.

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Honestly I don't shoot much JSB except Hades. My Revere likes JTS dead center, GTOs, H&N sniper magnums, polymags, NSA 17.5gr slugs, and the crosmans. It does decent with CPHPs and Gamo red fires and does not like H&N or RWS superdome.

Talonp

djna said:

Thank you - I was curious , seems like the Notos is very effective under 50 yards. When I’m out pesting I’m usually 20-30 yards myself.

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Very! I'm sure it could do well past 50yds but you would need to do some serious work to the trigger.