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Simulated ELR,

Interesting ! I went the other way , i shrunk the target . I shoot low power .177 now the shrunken target is 1 MOA @ 16.5 yards. That equals a center dot of .174 circumference and the inside edge of the next ring out is .179 which means i have to completely erase the center dot and not nick the next ring out .
you right i have not accomplished this yet , a few close but have always (majorly) nicked the next ring . OR not even hit the next ring hahaha
At 20 yards indoors with my .177 Impact tuned to <12 FPE, I shot a 5 pellet group of 0.191 edge to edge . I have been trying to go smaller but the twist rate is too fast causing the pellet to walk a bit when it hits the target.

If I can shame a good friend of mine into selling me his awesome MK2 I will see about replacing the FX barrel system wth a Lothar Walther 1:36 twist air rifle barrel and tuning to <= 5 joules.

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Crosman  The Crosman 105 Pistol 177 cal.

The Crosman 105 Pistol 177 cal.

Excerpt from my CD “Old Airguns and Memories.”


Hello to all,

The Crosman 105 .177 cal./106.22cal. Pump pistols were made from 1947 -1953; during their production time frame there were several names allotted to the pistol; “Bullseye”/ “Target” and finally, “Pneumatic Single Shot” all essentially the same pistol except for calibers as I recall.

The 105/106 series all utilized a unique slotted pump lever, the first series had two openings in the pump lever, the final versions had only one open grip area on the pump lever. I am not sure when the change was made in this area but I suspect it had to do with broken pump arm levers, so Crosman eliminated the front opening, close to the pivot pin, in favor of a more solid pump lever to address this weakness (*this is just my thoughts I have no documentation to prove it!)

The pistol has an OAL of 11 3/8 inch, weighed right at 2 lbs, barrel length 8 3/8 inches, rear sight adjustable for windage and elevation, safety is a trigger blocking push type located on frame, bolt cocking design, plastic single molded grip panel. Overall, a very sleek looking pistol, with the unique open slotted pump lever! This was Crosman’s first venture into the pump-up pneumatic pistol field as I understand it.

I have never seen any factory velocity quotes for these pistols, just a recommendation of 4-6 pumps, but we will have a look at that as well as accuracy; there is plenty of historic info available on the net regarding these pistols, I am not a historian, so we will move on.

I picked up my C -105.177 caliber at a gun show a few years ago (non-working) thought it was time to give it a fresh rebuild, so after completion of the rebuild I set out to Chrono and test for accuracy. A few notes on the rebuild that some may find of interest, or maybe not! The exhaust valve seal was literally crumbled dust as was the check valve seal, and the valve body gasket. Consequently, it appears that the seals were original, however it was clear that the pump piston cup had been replaced previously, as there were scratch marks on the pump lock nut and there was some real suction pulling the pump from the tube. I think someone had replaced the pump piston cup hoping that would fix it and when it did not; decided not to go any further, just conjecture on my part, never know for sure?

I set up and Chronograph the M-105 with Benjamin 7.9 grain HP; the factory literature I read stated 4-6 pumps, so I ran a series using 4 – 6 – 8 -10 and 12 pumps the velocities were as follows 269 fps, 323 fps, 354 fps, 374 fps and 397 fps. The 10-12 pump series was a pretty good strain on the pump linkage, so I settled on an 8-pump max @ 354 fps 2.2 ft. lbs, not too bad for a 70-year-old pneumatic pump pistol!!

Accuracy was tested at 30 ft. using the Benjamin 7.9 gr. pellets, I tried several others but the Benjamin delivered the most consistent accuracy results, 5 shots were always inside 1 inch (unless I jerked as in the target photo!), the target photo was 5 shots in .985” center to center, I was able to occasionally achieve .750” center to center 5 shot groups, this 70 year old air pistol is capable of consistently less than I inch 5 shot-center-center groups at 30 ft., which is certainly acceptable to me.

I subsequently wrote an article; on the Crosman M-130 self-cocking pistol that replaced the M -105/106 series. After having firsthand reviewed both now; in my opinion, the M-105/106 series were far superior pistols in almost all categories, better sights, more power etc. I have read that the self-cocking M-130 series eliminated an over pumping/valve lock problem and was heavily touted as a major improvement; I don’t think so; I KNOW IT IS POSSIBLE (valve lock), but it is something that never happened in my experience, course I did not try 30 pumps either!! I never met any sensible person who had this problem or experienced such in all my years of handling these type of old air guns if used properly. The M-130 was simply a cost cutting effort in my view; others of course may disagree!!!

Anyhow glad I have my 105.

Garey;

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6K Nitrogen Tank Arrived

I typically keep 2 N2 cylinders on hand, regulating the higher pressure of the 2 and just using a fill station on the lower pressure cylinder.

After 5+ years of exchanging many cylinders with 2500psi remaining I finally picked up a booster. Now I can run my cylinders down to <1kpsi and still boost guns to over 3kpsi.

While not required, having a good reg and booster pump will enable you to maximize the benefits of buying clean,dry, high pressure gas vs compressing your own.....

benjamin Gunnar Butt Stock issue

I know Benjamin markets them as such, but my Gunnar's tube measures fatter than mil spec, and thinner than a commercial spec. This was a gun I picked up directly from Benjamin in December. Maybe Reximex had different suppliers for different runs.

The military spec receiver extension (commonly referred to as buffer tube) diameter for an M4 service rifle is 1.149" +0.000/-0.006 (from a Picatinny Arsenal drawing I got a hold of). Also, the threads on the mil spec extension are proud of the tube. My tube measured at 1.163" and the threads are cut from the tube, and I couldn't get any of my mil spec stocks to slide on (I use Bravo Company USA stocks).

I really wish airgun manufactures were more careful when calling things "mil spec" and instead call them "military style."
Not to mention there are multiple ex marines up at Crosman that demand mil-spec.

JTS  Airacuda Max leak from barrel entry

I have the same problem on my Airacuda Max. I tried contacting the company 2 times and still no resonce.
Does anyone know where I can find instructions on how to fix it myself?
If you had air coming out of the barrel that means that the valve and poppet are not sealing against each other.
I had air coming out the barrel and I had to burnish the valve.

There is an entire thread about that here: https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/jts-airacuda-likes-balloons.1321499/

AirMaks Arms  Caiman MK1 regulator problem

Degassing a Caiman is a function of which version you have. Early ones had a tool that came with the gun that allowed you to depress the valve a little bit (open it) to degass the gun. Mine did not have this tool so I had to contact Utah Airguns who explained why. They put on what I consider a normal degassing screw instead. Getting to it is somewhat involved but once you are there it is pretty simple to degass and adjust the regulator. You have to take both portions of the stock off first. The bottom is a couple screws. The top is held on by tapered pins on early ones but mine has two screws for the top portion too. The scope has to come off to take the top part of the stock off. Another difference is the safety location. Early ones had the safety in the back of the gun but mine is above the trigger. That pin has to come off, however, the safety pin that slides side to side for the lower part of the stock to come off. There are two screws inside the trigger guard that have to be loosened. The smaller one you can access through the trigger guard and it has to be backed off a lot. The larger one is for the tension on the pin and you don't have to loosen it but the pins come out easier if you loosen it like 1/4 turn.

With the stock off, on mine you unclamp the airtube from the rest of the gun. There are two screws at the back of the airtube for this. The degassing screw is under the front one. Open it slowly until air comes out. You may have to loosen it some more to get all the air. Once you are degassed you screw off the back end of the airtube and pull the regulator out. You will need to put a bolt or something into the threaded hole in the regulator to pull it against the O-ring tension holding it in place. I used a tap last time I did this only because it was handy and the right thread. A bolt would be less brittle and therefore a better idea. But you shouldn't have to pull very hard. I don't remember if there is a lock nut but basically you just turn the adjustment screw you will see once the regulator is out. Humas have a paper tape to give approximate settings, I have not seen that on others. 1/4 turn should be safe. To go down, you want to turn clockwise like you would to tighten a normal screw.

It probably sounds more complicated than it is. The only unusual thing is the clamshell stock. I had no instructions the first time I took it off and still got it done.. I assume the first generation Caiman is the same except for no degassing screw on the airtube. I believe the manual has some discussion of how to degass (for the first generation, not the second).

30 minute SCBA tank

My calculator for pcp fills attached, you won't get many fills to 4k from 1,500 psi with only 4200 psi in the tank


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As you reach 4k in the tank, you'll have to fill around 113~ psi less each fill after the first 1~, and then a partial fill after...and for each fill after that, you'll be able to fill to 3900, 3800, 3700, ect...

With a lower fill pressure, say from 1500 to 3200...

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and with a bigger tank...

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-Matt

View attachment PCP Fill Calculator.xlsx

Hatsan  This could be one of the best $400 PCP pistols?

it's just hard under the full pressure, and it does have silicone on the threads.. it's just the way it came from the factory you could barely grip halfway around the air tube.. now with it milled off to the 45° bevel to match the top it's so much easier to unscrew and screw on.. you can actually get ahold of it..
I've got my own machine shop in the garage and it's a easy project..
I'd do it for anyone who wants it..
Mark

Umarex  Umarex Canex Co2 Plinker: Not A Peep!

At Shotshow 2024 Umarex unveiled the .177 Canex Co2 carbine repeater. It is a featherweight, claims 600fps with lead pellets. It uses a 10(?) round revolver clip and though it is double action only, claims to have a sub 5lb trigger. (Disabling the prawl and indexing the clip by hand for each shot could make a nice sub 2lb trigger, I'm betting.)
Since then I have watched for it to come into stock and even spoke to Umarex about a possible stock date. Not a peep!
This sounds great. I stumbled onto a 40cnt box of co2 carts in my garage and it has made me decide to get a co2 rifle for the backyard. This umarex canex sounds great! Thanks

FX  Fx trouble shooting

I believe what you are hearing is absolutely normal. Between the regulator and valve in your guns is a space called the plenum. This is the space where the pressure regulated air is stored. When you fire a shot the valve feeds from the plenum to propel the pellet. You are hearing air rushing back into the plenum, refilling it. Not a leak at all.
Thank you very much Trucker3573 for that answer!
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