Nice vid and payback always seems to make it better

it is funny , but the PRS MOE would cost me around 200 euros with import taxes VAT and a ridiculous amount of shipping fees. i prefer spending that on slugs

I took a leap of faith and bought a Trajectron 9inch moderator 1/2-20 threads all aluminum construction.. It's just like a Donny...It works good..I tested a bunch on my slugs with my Pennsylvania Legal Airforce Condor .222 Chaszel Barrel Liner 12 twist 27.5 inches long...I shot my 48 grain powder coat slugs at a max of 1130 fps...I like subsonic better its really quiet at 1050 fps...The shipping was great.. I ordered Thursday and received this morning... I'm still roughing in my barrel tension ing system.. Thus the washers..Will make better

in .177 i have also shot pellets just fine, but that caliber have 0 in difference between std and heavy barrel

My .510 bore will do the trick, incase the 30 pointer shows up. I have a 9 and a 30 that could easily do the job also, both over 120 ft lbs. I rather play it safe.
200 ft lbs and up is my range for Wisconsin Whitetail.

there is allof that plus in the powder burner find supplies have become astronomical cost wise

trlrman said:

Found 1 ! Now to baby step to 600 then 7 .

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2 to 3 moa targets 600 yards about 70-75 % impacts.
700 yards 40-45 % impacts
800 not good MAYBE 10%.
But I'm excited about the possibility
Of getting better !
This was with 10 to 14 mph switching wind .

This is my number two airgun I'm getting sighted in for a grandson. I mounted a BSA scope and less than 8 shots it was sighted in at 10 yards and shoots great, Beats the Ruger Explorer in sight in and a better trigger! I'm going to order the Umarex and BSA scope for the third great grand son. Charles

I actually just use Tampax, way cheaper and they are rated for heavy moisture flow.

Csbrown5 said:

What part of Florida are they that bad?

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Everywhere from west palm to the keys in the south east part if florida.

I love mine, I have the EC tuner break in .30. I shoot a .25. Definitely takes my groups to the next level.

BlackICE said:

Both my Edgun r5m and Benjamin Marauder can sit for months and still get the first shot right on target.

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My Marauder can't. My Korean Career and the FX Maverick can. Maybe it's luck of the draw. Assuming they weren't built on a Friday after lunch or on 420.

I think it's a great idea but I've seen those indicators fail at a few Rimfire PRS matches. Frankly the best idea is to use the gong type steel targets that you see in PRS. Way cheaper and readily available.

Depends on what your "general" shooting is, but the 2 i would recommend are the BR and the PC models
the BR is the basic model that has a cant adjustment- the PC has the additional feature of being able to pan around on the bipod without moving it.
the FC has the same features as the PC, but has a wider stance
PC model is on backorder..may take a bit to get to you
These are really nice bipods, but their prices have soared lately, so this coupon is a blessing

Yeah I agree absolutely. Things like choked vs unchoked, real not nominal caliber, barrel twist rate... and posting not FPS, but FPE with a variety of projectile weights... that would go a long way. Right now it's nearly impossible to fully characterize airgun without spending many hours of research

I grew up in Kansas which is kind of in "tornado alley". The sirens would go off multiple times a year. We lived in a small house over a crawl space. So there was nowhere to go and be safer than staying put. So I learned to sleep through the sirens. Tornados are very different from hurricanes in the area they affect. A tornado may totally destroy one house and leave the adjacent houses pretty much unaffected. If you are in the affected house, you could be injured but often people survive just fine. A hurricane affects a path at least tens of miles across so a much larger area. Fortunately Debby was only a hurricane briefly and is just a tropical storm at the moment. Evacuation if you are in the path of a hurricane is a good idea. Going to a basement if the tornado sirens go off is a good thing too but if you don't have a basement, being on the first floor of hopefully an interior room is about all you can do. But it usually works out fine.

Years ago when I shopped for a potential first home in Orlando Fl the only houses in our price range had concrete block walls, sometimes covered in brick or stone but more commonly stucco. I think that was more because of termites than the weather, however. We get a hard freeze in the winter in SC so termites are less of an issue but still a risk. Almost all houses are wood framed here and roofs are done lots of different ways but asphalt shingles are about the cheapest so the most typical. I think they are damaged more easily in high winds than clay tiles. We have red clay tile roofs but they cost more so they are more rare.

It stopped raining for a bit this morning so I got the yard mowed. The grass was wet but it really needed mowed so I did it. It's started raining again now and isn't supposed to stop much until sometime Friday. It has stayed quite windy so I did not try shooting. Mostly it's just windy and rainy because of Debby. Dreary but very survivable. Even on the coasts the news reports I've seen show limited flooding and not a ton of injuries.

If I remember correctly, the Crosman 600 pistol gets (maybe) 30 shots from a cartridge. Mostly because it uses some of the co2 pressure to cycle the action (like the 1077 does). So that's some loss of velocity. Co2 also boils off from liquid for each shot and that takes a second or two to happen, so rapid firing will cost some velocty, too. Co2 is also a refrigerant, so it cools the action off a little with each shot and as the temp goes down, so does velocity / energy.

You might be able to bump up the number of shots some. You can double the number of shots you get out of a cartridge by lightening the hammer strike and restricting the port that feeds the gas to the barrel on a bolt-action co2 rifle. But it does cost a little in velocity.

Hoping this helps.

Cheers,

J~

Edit - After looking at this, I don't think there's much you can do. - https://www.airgunhome.com/pages/1077disassembly.html

sekiar said:

Spent over two hours in 96 degrees heat trying to get t rifle to shoot where it’s aimeds
Sever times I was about give up but been stubborn I kept at it and mounted a new BSA scope and after sever hundred or so pellets the sorry trigger and I finally made a truce and it became a great pop can shooter. The more I shoot it begins to (we) do better. Most of the problem was me and the trigger. I’m trying to get thee such rifles set up for my three great great grandsons. Just two to go! Charles

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Today was a surprise as I took the Ruger out for another try and boy did It perform! Think after about an hour’s shooting I only missed twice. And that was my fault! Not a HW30 but a great low cost starter ! Charles

A PRS gun is a heavy bench rest tool. The Pantera is not exactly a lightweight hunting friendly rifle anyways. I would expect about 60% tops and probably less unless you just hit the right person. And then there is shipping which can be considerable with potential damage as happened to me not long ago. Maybe it is time to take up bench rest?

PBs can increase in value if well cared for, even many times over, patina can even add to value. I doubt many air guns hold any intrinsic value. The models change too frequently, new gizmos, yesterday's hotness is tomorrow's old busted down antique. Old and antiquity befits a PB, airguns, no. That is why I own expensive PBs less expensive air rifles.

I'm shooting jsb monster 25.39 890 FPS outta my M4 compact 22.CAL 500mm
115 bar
16 power wheel
Hammer Line 4.5
Valve line about 5

That's an amazing group! Some separate posts with close-up pics might be in order...just sayin'...!

dgeesaman said:

I’m an engineer and I’ve been programmed to consider risk in everything I do.

Yes, these air cylinders need to be handled and treated with care. If maintained properly I believe the risk of failure is near zero. These same cylinders get used every day by firefighters all over who don't pamper their gear and don’t seem to have issues.

I do believe in throttled fill hoses because they won’t allow an overly powerful transfer of pressure from the full tank to the bottle. The extra 30 seconds to fill my gun is perfectly tolerable knowing that if the lock ring on my foster fitting isn’t clicked in place, it might be scary but I won’t get hurt.

Know the pressure rating of your gear and never exceed it. There is plenty of performance operating your PCP within its design limits.

The actual risk of high pressure air rupturing something important is very low. Respect it and you should have no problems. There was a recent failure of a large fill tank with pretty ugly consequences. The lessons learned on that event are still being evaluated and I hope the greater community gets to learn from it. With legal liabilities being what they are that may not ever be released.

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I agree with all of this, but want to add one area of caution that we need to be aware of: the potential impact of not properly managing water vapor during compression, leading to the build up of liquid water in reservoirs.

Up until fairly recently, almost all of the filling and most of the use of these high pressure cylinders was done by what I will call the "professional class" - fire fighters, dive shops, the Navy etc. These professional users all followed strict protocols around filling with respect to drying air. The small number of personal users of the expensive fill equipment (the large dive compressors) all did the same. This is the history we see as we look at how safe the category really has been.

Now we have the explosion of inexpensive compressors used by what I will call the "amateur class" - mostly air gunners that use the cheaper compressors that do not come with any system to prevent condensation of water vapor in the air charge, and users that know nothing about what is going on in this space - and really don't seem to care. The first of these compressors came on the scene about 15 years ago with the original Shoebox from Tom Kaye - these had no moisture management in them, but the need for it was talked about and all users were at least aware of it - and most took the steps needed to deal with it, as it was easy to do with these compressors. But that is not the case anymore.

Bottom line - in the past the history of these cylinders and most gun reservoirs was one in which none of them had been exposed to water (except by handpumpers with poor technique), but that won't be the case going forward. Many guns and tanks will be out there that have had water in them most of their life, and that changes their safety profile. So be aware of what you are buying and do the right thing with your own stuff you might acquire new.

Troy Bakel said:

The only problem with the FX Impact is FX should have made it a custom build rifle for 2,000 USD more.

This rifle should be custom built at the same level as a Thomas.

It should be custom built at the same level as a Richard Sachs bicycle.

I own one of the former and 2 of the later and the only trash talk about either are from those who cannot afford to own one, which means their opinions are irrelevant.

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Yesiree!
Then I would really be hanckerin' to buy a couple

John,
Thanks for looking in and your comments.

Garey

Troy Bakel said:

Funny, I can shake the crap out of either of my M3s and my POI doesn't shift.

Then again, I packed the space between the liner and the barrel with 0-0-0 grade volcanic powder from the Canary Islands, the space between the barrel and the shroud with 0-0-0 grade depleted Uranium powder and I run a 1.03724 million Tesla magnetic field inside my moderator.

The vibration I use to shake the rifles is provided by the 5000 MW diesel generator used to generate the magnetic field.

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The flexibility of a barrel has a vibration rate. If a vibration that matches that rate is introduced, harmonic oscillation could result. That is what I thing that I experienced.
Your generators vibration could mute the vibration of the barrel if there timing is not matched.