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Berserkeley Mike · Nov 24, 2024

manabeknives said:
Hi Bhaur
I know you are an excellent tuner, but i'd still move the car

Car, nah, but I'd ask that guy to move his thumb.

JEFFPPC · Nov 23, 2024

Frank in Fairfield said:
750 sounds a little slow.
time for a rebuild?

Actually with the Vortek 12fb spring I put in last week I am getting 760 with no spacer and 10.3 AA. Yesterday the spring must have got setteled in as all of a sudden it started feeling really smooth and was shooting small groups at 20 meters.

RabbitofCaerbannog · Feb 4, 2025

Finally. Got the 600 kit on and shooting. 1850apx psi. Getting 842 avg on 18.13 JTS a bit higher with JSB at 850-855.

With the .218 LDC 17gr averaging 880fps.
I already knew the superior liner shot these slugs very well. At 2200 Out of the 380mm liner I was getting great accuracy and could get 845fps if I shimmed the hammer spring, if I screwed all the way in a bit more. But it was loud and violent at 2200psi.

With JTS 16.08 I'm right at 899- 900 dead on.

A little higher with cuda 15 but the accuracy isn't anywhere near what AEA/JTS give.

CPHPs high 930s to low 940s.

It looks a little long. And that's ok. It's really the tiny receiver that makes the bottle and barrel look so insanely long.

I'm happy. I've achieved what I wanted, it's capable of 35fpe if I want. I was able to lower the reg pressure 350psi to get these numbers. So there is plenty left.
I've ordered the huben reg/block (dream) which is taken God forsaken long to get here from China. This will help with the blockiness and marred plenum. Wish I knew about the domestic source before I ordered this.
Minnesota is a good bit closer than PRC

s.rami · Nov 24, 2024

Emu said:
Messure the diameter end length of your original regulator. Then write to huma-air asking which of their regulators is closer to such dimensions.

If there's no one, exactly the same size buy the thicker closer and take it to machine it.

Thank you for the suggestion, but such an approach feels like a large industrial project given the limited local means and expertise available here. In the worst case, a local gunsmith could import the original regulator from Aselkon, just as they imported the rifle. However, this process might take 6 to 8 months.

Thanks again for your advice!

Lead head sam · Nov 23, 2024

Ranchibi said:
You have a big beautiful dog!

Thanks, He is a good dog, but he’s not fan of airguning , always wanna stop me from having fun

Airgunner79 · Nov 23, 2024

Ydunn.223 said:
Are you shooting 22 cal or a 25 cal with the P3 my buddy has a P3 in 22 cal and has that special slug
barrel and shoots the VK slug 28 grain dish base the gun is at 170 bar and shooting at 960-975

25cal

Billm67 · Nov 24, 2024

I was just in the same position. I bought a Marauder from Airgun Revision and an Athlon Argos 6-24. I undid the lawyer spring and put in the SSG kit from Rich. I am very pleased with the way it shoots!

Trucker3573 · Nov 25, 2024

Love my epoch !! Just a note here in case someone has a similar experience to mine. I got my epoch originally in .25 cal with a 25” barrel. It has always been spot on money. Great shooter. I bought components for.30 cal. In .30 I couldn’t get it to shoot for

. I mean it was utter

. Tried all kinds of settings. Then Scott (Motörhead on here ) pointed out that Skout had changed the .30 cal probe length, making it longer from the very original. I ordered a new pellet probe, which is longer and low and behold it shoots now. So if you have or end up in .30 with no accuracy see if you have a very short pellet probe.

dens228 · Nov 24, 2024

Floridaman2005 said:
Don’t I need to be at the “knee”? If I up the 2nd reg to say 110 and then dialed the hammer spring back, aren’t I not tuning to peak efficiency? Aren’t you supposed to almost max out the hammer and then dial back with the valve adjuster and that is what limits the valve open time?

Put the valve at 4 and leave it there until IF/AND WHEN you need some fine tuning.
You put the 2nd reg at 100 or whatever and slowly increase the hammer until your fps starts going up. I'd start the hammer micro at around 2.5 or a bit more. If FPS stop going up and you aren't at your desired speed you raise the 2nd reg, put the hammer back at 2. 5 or so and do it again. When your speed maxes out with the hammer adjustment about 5-10% higher than your goal lower the hammer back down until your at your desired speed. Some may do that until your about 10 fps above your desired speed and then turn the valve in a tiny bit at a time until the speed drops to what they're looking for.

Bigflann · Nov 23, 2024

I shoot them exclusively in .25 35 gr. They are amazing out of my m3 and king. They come already lubed. Have not seen any black residue in the fifty or so boxes I have shot latly.

Perry Perry · Nov 23, 2024

Joef said:
You did good Perry. A few more things worth mentioning, Keith had a Birthday so Happy Birthday, and a sad note our Champion shooter Bob S suffered health concerns and was not able to participate and hopeful the docs can get a handle on it. Prayers always help if you can, thanks.

Joe

Looking forward to the next match and to see our missing shooters.

jkingrph · Mar 18, 2025

beerthief said:
I have 717 and 777 , like the 777 much better even though it has the same bolt action feel .

I think all the 7x7 pistols use the same bolt. 777 has a Walther Lothar, (Lothar Walther?) barrel, adjustable trigger, wood target stocks, forged steel piston lever, higher front sight and steel rear sight with adjustable width notch.

mariosjsk8 · Nov 28, 2024

3Crows said:
The best thing you can do for a Gen 1 to knock off weight and improve balance is to get with AGR, and if he will agree and your air tube has no corrosion, have AGR cut your tube and make into a hybrid. Hybrid meaning it retains the steel section in the valve and back section but forward of that it is aluminum. If you do this, you cannot regulate the rifle and the truth is that regulation is not the greatest thing since sliced bread for a hunting rifle.

Look close in this photo and you can see that my Gen 2 SL M-Rod .25 (The Beast) and my little Gen 1 M-Rod .25 have AGR hybrid tubes. Neither are regulated of course and they are strong shooting rifles. And accurate. And kill squirrels, rabbits and vermin dead.

My other two M-Rod .25s have JSAR full aluminum tubes and Huma regs and all the mess that goes with that but are very light sub 7 pounds rifles outfitted with the synthetic stock, my Cobra, JSAR alloy tube, Huma, Cobra valve, AGR lightweight SSG, Tim Hill short shroud:

Which is another thing that can be done, either purchase the Tim Hill shroud which I did or cut your own shroud and have it squared and threaded, which I did also to get the rifle shorter, about 39 inches. Maneuvers in the woods much easier and works well in blind. It is 39 inches long, 7.5 pounds with scope and a Limbsaver branded bipod attached, under 7 pounds with scope only. I did the hydrodip myself, Veil Camo from Dip Demon and One Shot Wonder base coats.

Awesome. Thank you!

Bedrock Bob · Nov 23, 2024

So I put a full tin of H&N's through it today. It shoots great.

The rifle really spits them out there with authority. It's smooth but it's potent. It's harder to tame than when it was shooting 600 fps for sure. Its no toy. It will knock a shotgun shell 30 yards if you get a good bite on it. It barely penetrated a shotgun shell before. Now it rips the brass right off the plastic.

By the time the sun set the pivot tension needed tightening and I could feel a little rub at the bottom of the stroke. It wasn't bad but it wasn't glassy smooth either. The trigger spring screw kept walking out and I had to keep turning it back in. The mounting screws needed retorquing twice.

I adjusted the pivot tension and took it out of the stock. You could see where the cocking shoe was touching the spring guide a little. I smeared a little more moly lube on it and dusted it down with some moly powder. It's as smooth as a baby's backside now. The trigger screw got a coat of hot pink nail polish. I think it's perfect.

I wiped out all the mounting point threads with acetone and torqued them over some blue loctite. Then mounted my old Airmax scope on it. Tomorrow I'll sight in the scope and see what the chrono says. Another 250 shots should determine if things are going to be groovin'.

If it will stack them at 690 fps like it did at 590 I'll be a happy man. We'll see...

Dr. Kralenstein · Jan 18, 2025

grouch-o said:
do you think the shorter barrel has something to do with the louder report as well? i somehow thought that also has an effect in that way.

mine is not too loud, compared to a GK1 without moderator or what i experienced with the VULCAN 3 HP today (my one ear is still ringing!), it is still quiet. =)

Yeah the barrel length was also a factor.

Revoman · Nov 23, 2024

Nice trip down memory lane and some beautiful pics of some fine looking Sheridan's!
Thanks for the shares!

mike

AlanMcD · Dec 11, 2024

OK, that helps . . . but it is still not correct, at least as I see it. And even though you did not "include" tank size in the math, it is inherent in the results as all the data (and thus the rate) is for a specific tank size, with filter . . .

700 psi in 66 minutes is 10.6 psi per minute (you had the inverse of that), and I like that unit - psi/min - but it is for a 74 cuft tank with an input filter that leads to higher volume than just the tank.

Mine was 7.6 psi per minute, but the tank was bigger and the input pressure was a little lower. Adjusting for those two factors I get:

7.6 x 88/73 x 110/105 = 9.6 psi per minute, so about 90% of what you were getting, but that does not take into account the volume of the filter, which we don't know but could guess is 1 or 2 cuft at pressure. One would lower the result to 9.5 and two would lower it to 9.3 . . .

Pretty close in value between the 13 and 15 tooth cogs - about what the math would predict which is 87% (if we assume 2 cuft for the filter, the estimated ratio of our two compressors would be 88%). I don't think that difference in speed either way would be worth a swap, if one had either one installed . . . I'm sticking with the 13 cog drives in mine.

Hope all is well, and have a great day!

ste.miso · 2025-09-09T11:07:44-0500

UDABEGGER said:
How many shots on new fix so far ? I ask because of my own factory fixs that were great for around 3000 shots and then back to slow start . Thanks

First shot after the repair is perfect. 945 fps as the gun is tuned from 1st day. Impact M3 compact .22 shooting hybrid slug. "2nd reg 140bar, macro 16, micro 4+4 click, valve exactly on line 3. 61 shot per fill.

Loff · Nov 23, 2024

TitanRebel said:
So, it's interesting to me that AGT offers Uragan and Vulcan - what are the differences between those two models of same manufacturer?

Someone already mentioned valving difference. There is one more thing that is different between Vulcan and Uragan - Vulcan is more top heavy than Uragan. Distance from grip to top is lower on Uragan and taller on Vulcan.
And AGT came out with Uragan 3.

RTI Arms · Dec 12, 2024

I apologise for a late reply. We have plans on doing a video about it. A drop or two every 500 or 1000 shots is fine. Everything is better than nothing!

Dog · Nov 26, 2024

We used 2 piece Parker SS ferrules at work for 1/4" SS tubing and above. I look at the cheap steel ferrules on my pump and have to laugh, got to cut cost somewhere...

Grassguy12200 · Nov 28, 2024

silverstreak said:
Appreciate the info... Thought it was a just released product introduction... Good to know its has a good a track record.

Vicente_M_Costa · Dec 6, 2024

Ok, so let's say from the FX Panthera and Dynamic airguns.

Zorbar · Nov 22, 2024

Also the M3 compact is shorter OAL than the Panthera. Looks like I’m gonna change this Panthera to long barrel slug gun. M3 will be go to compact gun from now on. Lol

cavedweller · Nov 22, 2024

Brian10956 said:
In August an ordered an FX bag rider from them and I still haven’t received it my emails have gone unanswered as well as my phone calls. I have always liked their items even though is was a wait to get them but not getting any replies leads me to think that they are out of business.

Get a refund asap

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