john8 said:

Welcome to AGN. Your stories are very entertaining, enjoy the read immensely. Many thanks, you had me sitting on the edge of my chair waiting for the goblin to make an appearance.

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Thank you ever so much! I’m tickled pink that I had you hanging on in suspense.

I went with the .25, wanting something with some additional power and range. In retrospect, the .22 might have been a better choice, but for now I am going to call it a tossup. I only have a very few rounds down range. 7 rounds for an initial scope zero, and one round that made for a very bad day for a rodent.

Here are my initial impressions :

1) Documentation is lacking. I think I spotted an error or two in the manual, but not too critical.
2) Fit and finish isn't great, but it isn't horrible either. I'm trying to keep in mind that this is a $420 rifle.
3) Seals seem to be in good condition on the rifle. Initial charge of 3600psi held tight for three weeks.
4) I've never had a bullpup before. Because of the stock geometry / cheek weld, the offset between the center of the barrel and center of optic is very large, this requires good ranging and a good dope sheet to ensure good zeros at different target distances. Once I settle on a scope for this gun, I am going to need scope mounts with some built in elevation offset to try and operate near the mechanical zero point of the optic. I'm not explaining this well, but I bet you understand. Right now, with a 0 MOA ring elevation offset, I am near max elevation for the scope adjustment. That's not ok for me. YMMV.
5) I find the cheek piece to be bulky... it feels as though it is difficult to find a setup in which I don't have to either cant the rifle or cant my head. This is really just a continuation of my #4 item.
6) The trigger, while set at a light weight, is very, very "creepy". I have not attempted adjustments yet, but independent of this being either a one or two stage trigger, the trigger creep is bad. I tend to be a trigger princess though. You put a speck of trigger crunch under a stack of mattresses, and if I lay on that thing I will know right away. I cut my teeth on Anschutz triggers and they spoiled me. (Again, this is a $420 gun).
7) Apparently not unique to Umarex, the barrel was full of crud when I unboxed. It took about 25 patches with ballistol and a good 30 minutes or more of pulling a patch worm to get it *mostly* cleaned up.
8) It does appear to be wicked accurate. I've only tested it out to about 50' at this point, but if the pellets are not going into one hole, it is because I did not break a clean shot. I can forgive pretty much all of the rest of the issues if this is as accurate as my initial, informal testing shows.
9) I find the safety to be on the wrong side of the rifle for my liking. I would prefer to operate the safety with the thumb of my trigger hand.
10) The rifle with scope and bipod is heavy, and doesn't carry well. The "receiver" is very blocky and just sort of feels unwieldy if you carry it with one hand. I'm not going to be spending a day in the woods with this, so this is of somewhat minor annoyance. Not really an issue.
11) The picatinny rail is slightly out of spec with regards to edge break on the "side" of the rail. I made another post on this forum discussing this. I was able to order a .5" offset that I needed to lift my scope up a bit more that worked well as an interposer between the rifle and my mount to allow me to attach my scope and lift it up to deal with the bulky cheek piece.

I've done no tuning at this point. The above is pretty much out of the box impression only. BTW, Midwest Gun was a good vendor. I will use them again.

That seems like a lot of griping, but all in all I am so far pleased with the rifle and I have good confidence that it will serve my purposes well. I don't think it is terribly loud, but I live up in the hardwoods and corn fields and my neighbors are a little more distant. It's quieter than a suppressed .22LR super sonic round but not as quiet as a subsonic suppressed round if that gives you any reference.

Frank 1
Squirrels 0

Don’t forget tax. It’s a grey area where I live. PA charges sales tax where I live (about 10%) while others don’t.

HUMA MOD50 4/0 .25cal, used with Uragan2 700mm .25cal;
SEVERE SLUG CLIPPING!
POI is shifted beyond measurable distance, or at least it is pointless to even try to measure it.
Sound report is great though, but who TF cares when you can’t shoot a sh with it

Dremmel time!

I’ll post the results

Maxtrouble I should have said that stop even controls the ricochets efficiently.

Chukar60 said:

Possibly a bad breech O ring. I lost one in my Maverick and it very loud. Any loss of velocity or change in accuracy?

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thank you i just checked and the oring is gone

Ok, had a little time today to pull the barrel and cut off 2 more inches to bring the moderator back where my OCD wanted it.



It is now a whopping 32" OAL, and 24" with the stock folded. Set up for 4 mags at 15.5 FPE with Hades. I also swapped out my sniper 3-9x32 scope for a BSA Sweet 2-7x32 for smaller, lighter rig.

Still giving me nickel sized groups at 30 yards which is all it's going to be pushed too.

Florida_Man said:

All my Snowpeaks eventually developed a slow leak around the fill port area. I took them apart and cleaned everything and applied new silicone grease and didn’t have any more issues. Now when I get a new Snowpeak I do it as part of the pre-shooting protocol. I’ve found that my Snowpeaks are some of the best at holding air after I do a complete disassembly and cleaning.

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Thanks for the prevention tips, will do as soon as it arrives.

Scotchmo said:

If shooting 300yds+, I would account for it.

At my latitude (35.3 degrees) when shooting due East (90 degree azimuth) vs due West (270 degree azimuth), it makes about a 1” vertical difference at 300yds and about a 5” vertical difference at 600yds. That’s with my 7mm, according to Strelok.

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For me its only .01"-.1" @ 40 degree latitude when I calculate Eotvos alone by itself at 600 yard shooting due east, but heck I could be doing it wrong and may need to re-evaluate my calcs.

The Magnus effect or Aerodynamic jump has a much greater effect than Eotvos AFAIK. @Ballisticboy definitely would know better what effects vertical stringing at long ranges more than us.

Sterloks spin drift remains static regardless of projectile velocity, not sure how much stock I put into their calculations. Geoballistics does not show any major vertical drift from 300 or 600 yards from Eotvos alone, but does show a huge difference in spin drift with velocity changes.


-Matt

Chief Ten-Beers said:

Tried heavier Pellets?

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Yes, I used to shoot Kodiaks out of that gun until I discovered the superior accuracy of JSB's.

Had no clue a calendar existed!

Shoots great! Depending on what ur shooting and how far. I have my .25 sighted at 50yrds and shooting the jsb hades 26gr. Its a little front heavy, so i changed out the OE bottle to a carbon fiber bottle. Its a little lighter. Pest control at 40 to 50 yrd no problem.

BABz58 said:

No opinions asked for. This thread was just to let people that buy the product. That I found quite the price difference between vendors.

AN FYI THREAD.

Not a Please tell me your thoughts on this product. It’s been sold and used by millions for 30 years. I’m sure over that course of time there has been plenty of opinions formed.

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Thanks for the heads-up about the price difference and apologies for steering the thread off course.
Opinions do tend to crop up naturally—whether they’re requested or not. It’s just how these places work, I suppose.

Go to Huma Air directly? Got my FX Boss reg about 3 days after ordering which blew me away.

Spartan said:

All I know is that I enjoy PCPs way more than springers.

Wait, what were we talking about??

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Springers are more fun than PCP's. Even with the wind today I had a hoot with the HW30. One and two mil dot hold over makes called shots more interesting.

razor62 said:

I reviewed the Two Forty on my channel. Rudimentary trigger. The case hardening is very thin. I broke through it trying to stone the sear. Other than that, I was surprised by the accuracy and for the price tag, it's pretty hard to beat. Would make a great kids 1st pellet gun.

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I agree. If the trigger was better it would be areal bargain. However I still like it as is as a $100 dollar
Wood stock gun. Charles

Thank you

mubhaur said:

I couldn't find a video regarding rebuilding of RAW Regulator.

So I made a YouTube video and the link is hereunder.

Bhaur

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Once again thanks for a very informative and helpful video, RAW should hire you, to do exactly what you have and are doing. They seem to lack the ability to show detailed video of working on their air rifles..THANKS

Hye guys, These are heads and tails above the rest when it comes to Night Vision. I have reviewed about 6 of these, and they are all the same exact unit with different names, shapes...identical inside. This one is different. It's really good, and the zoom works while recording and it has an app you can control it with. Also super freaking clear and great IR illumination with a mount for an additional torch. Check it out:

Oli_taylor said:

Hi,

I run a .22 target rifle club, we shoot with ring sights sling and jacket, and are looking for similar air rifles to use alongside our .22 rifles. My only experience target shooting air rifles is the MPR Sporter, and while im tempted to get these for the club they are a little out of budget. Is there an alternative that can handle the same sight setup for cheaper?

Thanks in advance for any advice

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look at the Crosman hft challenger - contact Rich Dudek @Airgun-Revisions

herbjones419 said:

Yeah I’m in the city. Closet outdoor range worth shooting at is otter creek and that’s like 30+ minutes from me

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you need to adapt to Kentucky mileages . 30 minutes = a short piece down the road . 45 minutes = a piece down the road , not much .

Just a quick note, I ordered a tuning kit from ARH. When installed it made the R10 seem like a different rifle with a very very nice shot cycle

Michael said:

Enjoy

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All the older gents on the podium