This is the sixth Taipan I had the "pleasure" of owning, and every single one had been a stellar performer. Sold a "long" years ago simply because of weight and I'm not a big bench shooter plus another member wanted it. In the last year I've been working with (enjoying) a .22 Mutant standard and more recently a Veteran compact .22...Both of these examples have just WOWed me...(all my Taipans have), I posted groups and my feelings on other threads. Me being a classifieds "hawk" this .177 was only posted for minutes, and I sic'ed my buddy on it, (a recient Veteran convert by me) he bought it immediately, after the dust cleared I begged it off him...cost me the .22 compact...not given up lightly...and the .177 was shipped to me. This .177 has the older "shinny" anodizing that I really like, I polished it with polishing compound and it looks like black chrome, I have a standard .22 just like it all polished up. I've shot it twice so far....177s are tricky at the best of times...wind...and I've read mixed reviews on .177 Taipans...has been very horrible humid and breezy if not windy here in North Florida but I've seen enough and I'm not worried...the 10.34s and 13.43s did ok initially and H&N 10.65 did ok. No crony work yet but it's penciled in....This one is going to be interesting. In addition, I have another .177 standard being boxed up to be shipped to me...so, I'll be getting a lot of experience with Taipan .177s...have a ton of pellets so that's a good thing...The posted group was shot at 37 yards in not the best conditions...the second shoot was over all better but still windy. Trigger, function fit and finish are Taipan through and through...Was shipped with a red laminated stock...without a Pic rail drilled into the stock, hate that, but I put that in storage and put a Ukrainian wood stock on it...pares well with the shinny anodizing. More to come with this one!

Continued rain in the Oklahoma City area has forced another cancellation of our monthly FT event. It's a mess out there with mud and bushes!
Hopefully things will clear up for our July match.
See you then.

Jalan said:

Hello All,
I recently decided it was a good time to introduce my 8 yr old daughter to shooting. Great time to teach safety, more safety, and some shooting basics.
When I was about her age (granted it was 40+ years ago), I got the Crossman 760 Pumpmaster. I loved it. My Gpap taught me everything. I had it for 10+ years when it finally gave out. I couldn't think of a better way to introduce my daughter than to get that same rifle.
Disappointment is a major understatement. The thing is $40 so it is what it is, but compared to the one I had really isn't even a comparison.
Beyond just the general flimsy feel there are problems that really are awful. Thought I'd list just a few:
The barrel itself can turn/twist +/- 60°, putting the sights near sideways.
The pump handle being completely light plastic feels like it'll break any second.
The bolt/ breach are a little misaligned meaning you need to shove it into place.
Like I said, I didn't expect much but I'd like to at least think it'll last during this early beginner time. The old ones had a metal handle and linkage to pump. That's my biggest issue here. It takes more force now as the handle is short, less leverage. Guaranteed it'll break.

Oh well, things get cheap and corners cut over time. Stay profitable, compete, etc I get it. Mostly it's just me. Memories of this thing are some of my best as a kid at my GPa's house. I want to share that with my daughter but this isn't going to do it.
I'm wondering if I should just grab the Red Ryder and go from there .
Thanks for listening, mostly I just had to vent. That said, I'm definitely open to suggestions of what might be a solid choice for her.
All the best.....

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The Daisy 880 is what the 760 should be – metal pump, solid barrel, and $60. Perfect trainer for kids. My daughter’s had hers 3 years with zero issues.

imtrigerhapy said:

Last night i got me record long distance on rabbit. The gun vulcan 3hp .30. The slug 59gr zan. The scope dnt tnc 225r. I am a right hand shooter. Right shoulder right eye. The shot was in the dark and left handed shot left shoulder left eye right trigger finger. Was out my office window shooting way to my right hence my boady to gun position all jacked up. The distance was 174 yards ranged with scope. Wind was calmish. So overall im happy and hopefully everyone has good shooting today

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Switch hitting 174 yards is NOTHING to sneeze at. Very well done!

The style of FX chronograph you have was the most inaccurate chronograph I’ve ever used! Went back to using a chronograph I can trust. My Pro chrono! Wish I never wasted my money…

At least I know that this FX Clown will make many kids happy by filling up their party balloons...

Found the BSA!

6gun said:

It's all the same mostly. I shot rabbits most of my life with a 600 fps 22 shooting crow magnums and they fell over like cards and the pellet passed thru. I've shot rabbits with 23 grain slugs at 1000 fps. It's the same results except the back stop is a bigger worry. Shooting them with 25 cal crow mags is slightly different.

Also short answer no. Pellets that I like are hades, polymags, crow mags(if your gun will shoot them). If you have a gun that can send your pellets actually as fast as you say and it's not the advertising numbers, hybrid slugs do have a dramatic effect because of how they're built and how they dump energy. On the critters ur shooting I haven't seen a big enough terminal performance to justify their cost.

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SciueraPlumbea said:

So does wind resistance.

shooting a 15gr slug with a bc of .078+ is a lot easier to put on target than a 16.2gr pellet at the same speed with a BC of .035

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Completely agree. The wind is why I shoot slugs to begin with. Where I live it’s always windy….

But it shocks me that I still these these types of debates. Both pellets v. Slugs and “what caliber is the best?” And then I see the responses and wonder how many people responding actually hunt on a regular basis? The answer to both question is actually really simple:

1) the best choice is always “whatever gun you shoot the most accurately and consistency.” The shooter makes the gun. The gun is just the tool.

2) it’s not about caliber or pellets vs slugs… IT’S ABOUT ENERGY TRANSFER. If your pellet or slug is pass through (at reasonable ranges of course) you’re using the wrong ammo. It can definitely be effective but hear me out. If you pass through you are leaving FPE on the table and then you have to worry about your backstop and stuff like that. But that’s universal y’all if you have 50fpe and passing through then you’re not delivering 50fpe on target…. Im shooting at 65fpe… and I hunt squirrels all the way up to coyotes. With doves, rabbits and other things in between. I’m shooting a 32gr slug at 965-970. I only get pass throughs if I’m shooting squirrels at less than 40 yards which is extremely rare for me…I don’t need 65fpe for squirrels but when I hit them they rarely take a single step. Just lay there and twitch because they if my shot isn’t perfect all of that energy is being dumped into the squirrel by decelerating that slug. Whether it’s a pellet of slug does not matter. It’s just the energy transfer.

Pfddi said:

@Bimhiq - I have the same problem with my P3! At the moment, it won't cock! I have tried everything including sending Rok pictures of the block along with videos of the action at work. So far, no one - including Rok - has figured out what is going on. I've tried adjusting the cocking rod as well as all the screws in the trigger group used for adjustment... it won't cock. Rok suggested that I send it in for someone to look at that is more knowledgeable than me (plenty out there!)

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@Pfddi . Thanks for sharing. Wow... So our problem is baddd.

I don't have access to anyone who is knowledgeable about RTI. It's not a popular product where I live. I grabbed this from a stock of an importer, and there weren't many.

What happened before yours when bad?

And.... Anyone? Please.

JW652 said:

Brilliant kit!

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Thanks! It’s kinda funny, my 2 most expensive scopes sit on airguns…lol

ctshooter said:

The AEA and JTS pellets seem to like a little more speed than the traditional selection. Maybe a little hot at 970-980. I'd be curious to see a target shot at 940fps.

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Here are targets I shot Tuesday with AEA 29.5g at 905-915fps.

Rifle was the “grandfather” of Joe’s Mora - an RTI Prophet Performance V1 with .25LR (1:32 twist) barrel.

I was actually testing the JTS 29.63g that were doing so well at 75.

I received the AEAs on Monday and because the weights were so close, I switched to them after an initial JTS Target at 75.

I was freaking ASTONISHED at my initial 75 yards results at 75 with the AEAs. First 10 shots were a single hole - even with me adjusting scope. Next target I adjusted scope after 1st shot was a bit low-left. Next 4 went into .4245” edge to edge hole. Next target at 75 all 10 went into single hole on the bullseye.

So I had to try 100. At 100 my target was in the woods so I could barely see it through the 45X Sightron. It was just going to be a sight in target at 100 as I just guessed 60 clicks up from 75. I aimed at target center cause I couldn’t see well enough for hold offs. I walked up and 10/10 were touching or inside the 1.5” ring with AEA 29.5g at 100 yards. I’d rather be lucky than good, lol.

I’d consider a Mora if I knew for sure that my 5 Prophet barrels would work well in it.

These AEA 29.5s seem darn consistent.

-Ed

Here’s my submission:

Rifle: WS Airguntech Heavy Varmint (Sub 20 fpe) config(made in the Philippines)
Pellets: Silver Streak Jr. 10.15gr .177 cal (made in the Philippines)
Scope: Vector Optics Sentinel X
Target distance: 28.1 yards

Good idea to clean the barrel really well before shooting anything for the first time. And make sure the pellet probe has a little silicone lube.

Welcome to the best ! AGN
Check under Traditional guns and their is a section on how to shoot springers . Full of tips like "learn how your rifle likes to be held " no death grips .

Have as much fun as you can
Stan in Kentucky

That is some excellent shooting and videography!

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maxtrouble said:

Yes. Perhaps a Vortek or Macari kit but 700ish fps is perfect for .22 springers. Plus all that leverage with the under lever makes it an all day shooter.

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I have a HW97 in .177. It has a Vortek kit and is shooting around 700 fps also. I don’t shoot it often, but it's a great rifle. I have relatives in the NC mountains who like to shoot, and I take the HW97 when we visit. It's perfect for that kind of travel, just grab the rifle and pellets and go!

think about it,if ultra smooth was more important,we would be cleaning our barrels every few shots?

Thanks but no, the one I'm looking for measures with air.
Thanks Again

Since the sear is rounded off the easiest thing is prolly to just remove trigger spring. For a hair trigger you really need to un-round the sear. Having the added grubscrew 1/8 turn away from slamfire didnt feel much diff than stock IMO aside from pretravel, no hair trigger with just grubscrew.

Shame these went from $47 to $58 in a month.

Buna-N is the most common Material for Pneumatics.

TODI Cured Urethane (Disogrin) is the Best Material you Can buy For Pneumatics. Downside is its mainly available in only AS568 sizes on small QTYs.

We haven't Deep Dived on Kitting For Air Rifles Yet, But you can Source most the items on our Website
i Believe Min Order Amount on our Web is Currently $10 plus Shipping.

Thanks for sharing the pics Hector and the kind words. It's too bad the pics can't show the angle of some of the targets in the Hollow.

What is the overall performance and functionality rating of the AEA M-50 [Chambered in 51 caliber] pistol?

I believe what is supplied is far from a complete rebuild kit. If you don’t have leaks I’m guessing you don’t need to change any of them. Bill from target forge has said the piston assemblies on the cs4 really aren’t user serviceable. Whole cylinder replacement drop in kits are available from gx. I think they will be 250 bucks?? Maybe it was 225 ?? Highly doubt with 3 hours that is your problem but just for future reference. What is your dead head time ? What size 3000 cylinder are you filling ? When you fill it what is the start pressure and how long does it take to 3K ?

Hi BassMan. Sorry to sound like a Nazi interrogator, but the forum members only know what you tell us. So far we know you have multiple guns, some springers and some PCP's -- specific guns unknown. Sounds like you have multiple scopes too, all cheap -- and unknown. We don't know if you swap scopes between guns. You have a POI shift with ALL of your guns. We don't know if you use a bubble level to make sure you're not canting the rifles or if the levels are not tight enough or if your scopes are not tight enough. The list of questions that need to be answered in order to nail down the problem is a long list. I know this is a real downer post, but good detective work is needed. Perhaps if you concentrate on one specific gun and the specifics of it and it's problems and the history of the scope on it (like was it ever used on a scope-destoying springer?). Not trying to bum you out or get you to give up on the forum members for help. So let's start with one specific rifle and full disclosure of what's on it.

stovepipe

Edit: You did mention some specific guns. I apologize for not acknowleging that. But we still need to know more -- like I said.
Another edit: I mis-spoke when I said that you had the POI shift on ALL of your guns. You said MOST not all. Sorry for my mis-quote.