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RTI  Tell me about the original Prophet Performance

jmohme
I bought my P1 performance right as the P2 was released. I went with the P1 simply because I liked it's simple straightforward design and also got a good price due to the new model being released.

I have never noticed any sharp edges and I do find it comfortable to shoot, but I only shoot from the bench. I think the full size Performance might be a bit heavy for shooting off hand.

As I said, I shoot benchrest, so the left hand cocking is perfect for me. My right hand never needs to leave the grip.
Magazines have never been an problem to me. The OEM mags are really slick but pricey. I have never felt that they were in my way. Even the aftermarket CARM and Orion mags that are a bit larger, are still not a problem for me. They all load easy enough and feed reliably. That said, I often just load single shot. That is easy enough on the Prophet. Plenty of room to hand load.

Regulator has never presented any issues. Maybe a little creep when it has sat with a full air charge for extened periods, but I ususally store it at lower pressures and just fill before shooting.

One of the big plusses is how easy this gun is to maintain. Barrel removal for cleaning or caliber changes is just a few minutes. I bought two o-ring kits when I got the gun knowing that I would eventually have leaks. That was three years ago and the unopened bags of o-rings have not been touched.

This gun is almoste boreingly accurate and consistent. The 22LR barrel is amazing and later I got a .25 RPB that is also a great performer.

I did add a K&L butt and bag rider. Also added an extended lower picatinny rail. the tiny one below the trigger guard was just not adequate.

The P1 is a solid well thought out design and I would not let go of mine. I think you would be very happy with on of these fine PCPs.
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Resources  A word question - ?

dgeesaman
cavedweller said:
I know we use the term "military campaign".
I don't think i've heard FT peeps celebrating victory "champaig-ning" "before" a match with a particular rifle platform.
In context i have always heard the word in FT used to reference the gun of choice for a particular person to compete with.
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Yeah in the sense of this definition the gun is the horse or race car. I think it’s more of an English (UK) thing.
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Used CF 480CC Bottle

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Trucker3573 said:
If it were me I’d ask for a refund. I’d have a super hard time not leaving negative feedback too. You don’t just miss or forget a gouge like that and not disclosing it is utter and complete BS. You can buy a tank like that off Amazon for just over 100 bucks.
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Shrink tube is the first red flag in a bottle sale.
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Tuning  Valve porting P15

RabbitofCaerbannog
JimD said:
I missed ordering one Monday because I was away from home and thought I could wait until later in the day. I don't think it will increase power in my U. S. spec guns but the price is not much more than just buying another hammer spring and valve. I want those parts so I would like to give it a try.

I have not measured the passages in my P35-22 or P35-177. I haven't even opened up the P35-22. All original except for hammer spring and trigger settings (and a printed moderator replacing the baffles). But after figuring out my P35-25 prefers 34 grain JSBs I wanted to speed them up. With the regulator about as high as it can go and the hammer still open the valve I was getting about 715 fps. The passage from the valve to the transfer port, the transfer port, and the barrel port were all about 75% of the bore size. I increased them all to about 85% and gained 15-20 fps. Adding an aftermarket external plenum got me about 45 fps. Velocity is also temperature dependent and I have achieved a little over 800 fps with these heavy pellets but 790 fps or so is more typical. I am not in a rush but when I have an extra valve or two, I will reduce the diameter of one and see what that does. It show flow more, others report success, but I may also have to shorten the valve poppet to keep it projecting towards the hammer the same distance - in other words it is not super easy but probably not really very hard either. None of these changes is really necessary in my opinion but I like figuring out what works and how to do the changes.

Just getting a bullshark would be a lot simpler. The extra 40mm of barrel would give a similar velocity gain as the bigger plenum. A bullshark with an added plenum should easily make 50 fpe if the gun likes 34 grain pellets. That's more power than squirrels and rabbits need but makes the gun usable for a little bigger animals with brain shots.
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I have a spare valve housing if you need one. The same bagnall one in the thread. Order the PEEK or delrin valve stem/seal from maple.
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.25 caliber at 32 FPE not enough?

dizzums
at normal range its all in where you hit them .. ive literally blown squirrels apart with 15 rnds out of a .22lr and they were still lively and kicking and had to club them the rest of the way ... that said, about 15 ft lbs under 30 yds smacks a squirrel just right for some reason ... high velocity tends to punch holes rather than transfer energy i think ..
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Predator Polymag .22 Inconsistent velcoties

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Hey @RabbitofCaerbannog, sounds like you had a few issues (I also saw the pics) with your tins from us here at UA. Give me a call tomorrow, I'd love to make it right for you, ask for Austin in Shipping at UA. Sorry, I couldn't respond to the thread with pics due to it being in industry feedback.
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Hatsan  Hatsan Flash-R Repair

FLgunner
Well, I have an update! I didn't hear anything back from Hatsan after the e-mail I received this morning. In that e-mail they mentioned using rubber in the vice and a big Phillips head screwdriver. So, in one last attempt, I wrapped the aircylinder with some rubber weather stripping I had laying around, secured it in the vice and used the biggest Phillips screwdriver I had, and off it came! I didn't even have to apply any heat! I replaced the o-ring, but it back together and aired it up to 250 BAR. So far, no air rushing out like before and I can't hear any air leaking when I put the fill valve near my ear. It's now fully reassembled and will sit overnight to see if hold air or if there is still a slow leak. I'm hoping for the best!
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FX  M3 or king?

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Gambler said:
So the king with 100mm shorter barrel will match the power ?
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In my experience, easily match and exceed.

The plenum on the King is over 2x bigger than the Impact. It is built for power and gets there without breaking a sweat. I had 59 gr Zan slugs going over 1,000 FPS in the King and it still had more juice in the tank. The best tune was at 940-950 for accuracy and shot count.

Even with the power mods, I couldn't get that velocity out of my M3. Keep in mind, my M3 was a pre-powerblock version but that wouldn't make that big of a difference.
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New pellet

Peashooter
My friend really like shooting those cobber plated H&N pellets in his snowpeaks ( .177 )

I personally like to shoot the JSB heavy 10.43 gr and JTS dead center domed 10.4 gr, heavier the 13.43 gr Monster redesigns will work fine, i suppose the regular monsters will to but i ever only had 1 tin of those and i have yet to open it.
Beasts also work fine for me, but now we are talking super heavy .177 pellets.

I cant say i have tried the Hades pellets much, but many seem to like them for pesting.

My rifles FX Maverick and ATM shooting the Epic Two with a un-choked CZ barrel.

I never had much luck with the H&N pellets in my rifles, not Maverick , not Vulcan 3 when i had it, and same for my Two
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N/A  LEAK WHEN FIRING URAGAN 2

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TE CUENTO MI HISTORIA

PRIMERO... FUGA DE AIRE POR EL CAÑÓN, CAMBIO DE VÁLVULAS POR UNA GEN2

SEGUNDO: VARIACIÓN DE FPS. CAMBIO DE REGULADOR POR HUMA

TERCERO: AIRE INFLADO EN EL ÁREA DEL CARGADOR CON CADA DISPARO. CAMBIO DE LA JUNTA TÓRICA DEL CAÑÓN

APROVECHÉ PARA SUBIR EL REGULADOR A 145 BAR

CUARTO: DESPUÉS DE UNOS MESES, VUELVO A VENTAR AIRE EN LA ZONA DEL CARGADOR. LA JUNTA TÓRICA ESTÁ IMPECABLE, LA CAMBIO DE TODOS MODOS, PERO EL SOPLADO DE AIRE EN EL CARGADOR SIGUE VARIANDO DEMASIADO LOS FPS.

¿ALGUNA IDEA DE LO QUE DEBO REVISAR, AJUSTAR O REPARAR?

El rifle es muy preciso, me gusta mucho. Pero hasta ahora ha requerido demasiado mantenimiento.

URAGAN 2 CAL 25

SALUDOS A TODOS
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EDgun  Leshiy 2 Hard Open, now cycling issues

SenseiSmash
Sergey1972 said:
Next step is check pin in the plastic gear that indexes magazine. They have a tendency to slide forward towards muzzle. This weakens gear engagement with magazine. Knock it back towards stock with pin punch.
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Well you called that spot on, it shut hard enough that it broke the indexing arm that holds the metal or plastic roller in place.
Was able to order one today from Edgun West.
Thank you, hopefully this fixes my issue
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