Engg.Ken said:

Take a caliber on Pyramyd air, and sort the highest rated pellet made by JSB, that is the weight option Halo should come by. as far as 177 goes, as GMI we have been working independently on our XHP line of tooling which is conceptually a lightweight slug designed around pellet weight. So far we are yet to get success with the ongoing tests.

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I look forward to further developments with your XHP line.

Hello everyone,

Cleaning out my shooting room I found this set of Custom Made Curly Maple Grips to fit a Colt Special Combat Classic made by Umarex. This is the .177 cal BB CO2 model.

I had a fellow make two pair for me and I have one pair on my pistol ( see photo ) and I do not need this extra pair.

If you own one of these pistols and would like to have this extra pair for free, send me a PM along with a photo of your pistol with today's date in the photo. In the event there is more than one person, then after one week I will contact the winner to get his shipping address.

ThomasT

Awesome, while I truly hate rats and mice, some reptiles also qualify.

Thank you for sharing your experience. My HW shoots better than 1 inch at 20 meters. I’m trying to extract better accuracy with the rifle I have. Cheers mate and merry Christmas.

I just visited AAA before the SHOT show... he had a PILE of HPS and EVOL receivers sitting on the assembly bench and bins full of parts along with a few assembled ones. Seems like the holdup is the barrels but I may be incorrect... they had one of the barrel making machines break and were wating on parts from the manufacturer.
I really think the HPS is going to be incredible... well worth the wait.
I did get the new easy cocking hammer system back when I fitted the 177 barrel to my EVOL and it's a good improvement though cocking a Ghost side by side with it, still more effort. Personally, I would prefer a little effort to give up some robustness or durability, so I'm fine with it.
Bob

I think the real key to all this is understanding the real statistical variance of one's gun / shooting system. If you know that, you know what to expect.

As an example of figuring this out, when the conditions are ideal, I'll run a "benchmarking" benchrest test on my rigs. Below is the results of one I did where I took 80 shots at 80 bulls at 50 yards with my Air Ranger on a dead calm day at home. When I do this, I smooth out the surface of a duct seal trap and put the target paper directly on the duct seal - this gives me perfect holes and can measure the center of the shot in both the X and Y dimension relative to the POA (the center of the bull), and then I can do all sorts of wonderful statistical analysis in Excel.

The picture shows the plot of the full "80 shot group" both as shot, and slightly corrected so the COI (Center of Impact, or average POI) is dead on the POA, with scores and data for each. The worst shot of the 80 was only 10.7 mm off the POA, or 10.1 mm off after correction, so the gun is clearly very accurate and the conditions were clearly very calm. No hold off for wind was used - all shots were aimed dead on the bull. There were no called flyers, and the concentration this took for 80 shots was almost exhausting - that is why I stopped there instead of pushing through to 100.

I used a random number generator to pull "groups" of 5 and 10 shots out of the data, and then assessed them for min max and average. Based on ~10,000 5 shot groups and ~5,000 10 shot groups, I found the following:

One thing I'll say is that people like to talk about "average group size" and I think that metric is just BS-ing ourselves as it mathematically scrubs out "outliers" that are not really outliers at all - they are just at the "bad end" of the normal operational range of the system. If one shoots five five shot groups, the average of the five does not mean much in terms of true system capability - a better question is to ask "how big the resulting 25 shot group would be" for those conditions, since that tells you what you really could expect to see if all does not go well, even if you do your absolute best. Infact, that should be what we use as our guns real "capability value" on any one given shot, as any one shot could fall in that larger window.

For that gun in those conditions, it basically said the gun could put the pellet within 11mm radially of the POA, so a potential max group of about 22mm seems likely – so call it an inch at 50 yards as the absolute worst case (since another 80 shots could yield one a bit farther out), but extremely unlikely. Of course that is in almost perfect conditions, benchrested taking great care on each shot, with the scope “perfectly” optically aligned so the COI matches the POA (which does not matter for “group size” anyways). Any shooting or sighting/range estimation errors will make it worse.

Anyways, that is the way I look at my shooting . . .

Thank you I ordered the longer handled one figured it would be easier to hold on to

I have a King in .30 and really like it! It’s my only long range gun. I don’t hunt with it just target shooting. And I did put a aluminum stock on it!

Just saw that, was getting a do over

1900colt said:

I'm not sure how much someone really wants to spend for "fast"... but when we take out some guns that are airhogs, we'll take the tank and a cs4-i. Fill the gun, hook the compressor up and let it top off the tank while we shoot.

Endless air supply and usually the tank is topped back off by the time we shoot and reload magazines. Those that have these big super expensive loud and stationary compressors are still limited to what they can carry in their tanks. Sure you can fill faster, but your air supply is limited to what is in that tank until you go home, and throw on a set of ear muffs to refill those bottles fast. That's the main reason I did not like the YH, it's faster but loud and you're not taking that thing with you anywhere easily either.

Everyone has their own idea of value and use. I think the vast majority of users do not need big, expensive compressors to enjoy this hobby at all. Just back to the K.I.S.S concept and the hobby will continue to grow.

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Yep. If you have 2 large tanks shooting at a remote location probably never run out of air. Use one tank shooting, while the other one is filling connected to your vehicle. When the 1st tank get too low the 2nd one will be full. Switch and repeat.

If you want to go green at 500+W solar panel may do the trick on a sunny day.

Airgunmann said:

My full ported with a moded valve stem 22 redwolf is pushing 23 gr slug at 970 which isn't bad heliboard as well
not quite as power as drs 22 But the valve is larger too

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If I bought one I’d just be looking for 60 ft/lbs in .25. I’d be happy

Just got the new fx barrel on it today. Definitely gonna need a moderator. Thing is alot louder then I expected.

Bandito said:

Krazy Kool Airguns in Smithville, MO ? BE Well Brothers, Bandito.

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Anything Huben K1 or GK1 I get ahold of my Missouri homeboy. Kelly always did me right, damn good dude.

David

I've purchased from Europeaiguns sparepart FX things in the past no other vendors (US or EU) had them in stock. Based in Tenerife - island - the shipping may be a bit extended time, but my overall impression was positive.
About the OP, I am not inclined for diy slugs.... pellets maybe...

88turbocoupe said:

Not sure I thought the nipple on the gun looked stainless not sure
What the metal is the valve is made of
I had ordered both a new nipple from Utah and the valve from. Krale
As their the only ones who had the newer style bottle valve
I'm going to wait for the new parts to come before removing again.
Just in case.

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I used powdered molybdenum disulfide lubricant on the nipple threads and it seems to be working.

I might try it. I shot my last conventional chronograph, however. I am using little inexpensive ones made in China now. They have a much more limited window but they are cheap.

I have numerous scopes...some are FFP and some are SFP. The FFP scopes indeed keeps the relative drop coordinated with the reticle. I find that when I use the FFP scopes that the lower magnification is not very practical because it shrinks the reticle more than I like. As such, I keep the magnification high in order to have a decent size reticle to view. So I have a 6-24x FFP scope that is not practical below 12x magnification. The reticle stays full size across all magnifications with SFP scopes. I can adjust for drop with turret adjustments or compensate using the reticle markings pretty well on the SFP scopes. I appreciate both but seem to be drifting back to SFP. I hit prairie dogs equally well either way. BTW we all have a lot of nice choices at various price points either way.

Yes....

Richely said:

Hands down the one I shoot the most is my AA ProSport. That said it’s not the one that be last to go.

Nothing is forever but the last airgun to go will probably be the FAS AP604 pistol. Wonderfully balanced, great trigger, fits me well, accurate and simple. The epitome of pellet, gun, shoot. Low power means I will always be able to shoot practically anywhere, indoors or out. My smile maker.

Only with the greatest reluctance will I ever give up my FWB 603, the last rifle to go. The rest I like to varying degrees but feel no permanent attachment.

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My wife and I sure like the HW45.......I've looked at the FAS AP604 a few times but haven't ordered one yet, YET!

Pistols are fun!

Another quick question. Is it normal after you've removed the bottle(s) and degassed the gun and then later start refilling it to have some leaking around the regulator adjustment screw for many seconds as soon as the fill air starts flowing? Mine did this today but after the pressure built up a little bit (partially helped by me pressing my thumb firmly on the regulator screw) the regulator seemed to seal itself and it pressured up fine with no subsequent leaking.

My Royale. I think it is a 500? Shoots awesome has a slow leak. I need to get around to rebuilding it.

Ezana4CE said:

I hope they incorporate an illuminated reticle on future versions.

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I would be all over them if they had IRs, my old eyes need it alas…

I have removed probably 10 of them and never found any thread locker of any kind. I think they just get the normal aluminum thread galling and are difficult to remove. I have a spanner tool thing that fits the holes to make things easier to grip, but sometimes they still need a little help. I cheap heat gun from home depot will help and wont hurt the finish at all if you leave it on low.