Great shooting, Michael! And a much more realistic example of slug-airgun possibilities. What are those gong diameters, Bud?

I think we all know consistent sub-half MOA groups at 200 yards are no more likely with an airgun than with rimfires and centerfires; especially in human hands.

I'll take this opportunity to create a new adage. With undeniable proof, braggin' ain't lyin'.



BTW, that card ain't undeniable proof; anybody could have a card like that printed. The undeniable proof is scattered about the walls of three rooms in my house... masquerading as 'wall art' so folks don't think me a braggart.

I'm really quite a humble guy... masquerading as a braggart!

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It sounds like the orientation pin is not fully seated. Pictures?

Good question, it should be on the schedule but it's not, I will correct it. But answer is....20 meters.

It is an interesting idea, and the internals look cool.

Would feel better to have an outside person do a review on the unit. I am always skeptical about "reviews" on youtube.

Luv2hunt said:

It doesn't much matter because they're all that accurate...but here your go.
Scout mount used w/a 2x20 swift.

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May of 69!

I have been wondering that too ( the missing wifi )
I think it might be a result of the SOC used, though it cant be a too shabby one when it can handle 4K / 120
I doubt it is a Novatek SOC that is very used in Dashcams, probably one of the Chinese ones

The HDMI out on the NV500 even in a stationary situation i think would be annoying to have a wire plugged in, not least as i feel HDMI cables are stiffer than the USB cable i have used for power CUZ otherwise i run out of it during rat sessions.

Streaming image to a phone, that most carry after all, that would be the easy / manageable route, even if this often introduce a little lag, then it is not like the old days in dashcams whee you would have 0.5 - 1 second lag on the wifi, today the lag is pretty minute.

Sawney Bean said:

For me, it's not the power so much as it is the shot count. I'm fine with 30-40 fpe, but only getting 2 mags per fill at best just isn't enough for a select fire airgun. I really don't like having to constantly refill.

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Welcome to my world…
I had a same feeling about my gk1 at first few fills…
and then I found a sweet spot
4 mags
at around 750fps
and about 30yds…
loving it…

They are really late to the AR stock style gun. It's over played in my opinion. I'm starting to prefer the old o'wood stocks that makes airguns really stand out.

Well that was a lot of fun.

BABz58 said:

I like my Discovery Optics.

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I am with you, Discovery Scopes fill my needs a a reasonable price point.

I have one donny Ronin, .30. Use it on my .25 & .22 also. Works just fine on all 3. Originally got it for my .25 & Donny suggested to get a .30 so I did. Now it's mainly used on my .30 which is loudest of the 3 but, as I said, works fine on lower calibers.

Trucker3573 said:

ZZZ…heaviest compact Airgun in existence probably. Sorry love Skout but shrinking a barrel and a bottle on an epoch isn’t the way to the hunting crowds heart

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Haha, maybe there is more dieting involved….. with the air gun that is

Avenge-X .177 PCP Rimfire Central 50 Feet Round 1

Rifle - Avenge-X PCP .177 (New Wood Stock: Low Power Setting Low)

Class: PCP Air gun

Ammo: AA 10.3 Field Heavy Sorted to 10.4 and 4.52 head sized. Also Lubricated

Optic: Vortex Crossfire II 6 to 18

Front Rest: Bald Eagle Front Rest with Sinclair Bag Rider

Rear: Protektor #13 Rear Bag and Custom Bag Rider

This was indoors and about 68 degrees. Relatively dry air. The furnace kicked in which caused some air movement. This happened during the shoot.

It is full moon time here, so I was preparing for werewolf hunt. The wooden stock was installed in case an emergency arose, and I needed a stake. I know stakes are for vampires but the seasons overlap. I know I will have to switch to pure silver pellets, but they should shoot about as well as lead. They always do in all the movies.

I was shooting an A-17 target here. I had planned to shoot several different targets, but time was limited. The bottle started the day at full capacity. I took a few shots to sight in the rifle. Tank pressure started at just under 300 bar. The regular was about 1800 psi. Low Power Setting.

I got ona a month ago, leaks somewhere, need to tear into it and find the fix, spare parts were included for a reason

I'm asking about their barrel the .30 ECR; not the SubMoa. apologies, I mistakenly called it the EBR.

Yep, and it must've slowed down the factory seal
enough to rob the power. If I tried a factory seal now it would probably be better output.

Rob_in_NC said:

How many have noticed that your forum participation seems to get a jolt during the winter months? I visit here daily, multiple times a day, but notice that unless I tend to be a little more quiet during the summer months. I'm not stuck indoors as much and tend to be outside as much as possible when not at work.

But during the winter, I post a bit more... and look a little closer at the classifieds, unfortunately. I'm set up for 10m airgunning in my gun room, but sadly it doesnt get as much use as I figure it could/should during winter.

Anyone else notice the same of yourself?

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Rob,
Instead of shooting our guns -> “We shoot The Sh.it ……. “

beerthief said:

how about another set of racks in front of the ones you have already ? like off set sliding doors , one slides in front of the other ?
Maybe the front rack could slide and temporarily block a doorway while you pick a gun off the wall rack ? thereby saving wall space .
these would be on tracks top and bottom

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I was sarcastically going to say, hell with it put a motor on it and drive your rack to the range. But ironically Stan you might have sparked an idea. Crow

Congratulations on another great an informative hunting video

I wouldn't even think about doing airguns without a chronograph. They are indispensable to knowing what you have and how it's keeping up.

There's no telling what even a brand new German springer shoots without a chrono. They commonly have (mostly fixable) issues straight off the factory. Any used gun, or a gun that has been worked on in any way, and it's a complete guessing game without a chrono. And contrary to one opinion upthread, many, many guys work on their own springers. To me, personally, that's easily one half of the game / enjoyment.

Springers are hard enough to shoot accurately that you'll be deep in a bog of uncertainty if are unable to isolate variables. Your shooting may not be accurate / consistent because of you, or because of the gun. The chrono tells you when it's the gun. There are dozens of potential reasons why a gun doesn't shoot up / down to spec, or not consistently enough. Just a piston seal that's a little too tight can slice 100 fps off the MV, or a gun that is dieseling a little too much can spread velocities by 30 fps, but you can't tell (easily), without a chrono.

With fixed distances, you could do with low velocities and still be highly accurate, but you couldn't do with inconsistent velocities.

Cbourbeau32 said:

I get it now, thank you! Maybe I should order the ssg first and play with it first to see how high velocity I can get around the 1900 psi range while I'm saving for the huma.

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Yes, I agree you should do that.

Once a regulator is installed you will be shooting at the reg set pressure. With the unregulated (.25) M-Rod you are shooting, or at least I am, starting with a fill pressure of 3000 and usually down to about 1800 psi before the Bell curve drops off into the Grand Canyon. With the reg installed you are working at that bottom pressure you would normally have topped the rifle back off at. The only way to get your velocity back up once the regulator is installed is to port the rifle (including the valve or switch to a different valve). If I recall the standard porting for the M-Rod as it comes is around .14. That will be very restrictive to a regulated rifle working at 1800 to 2000 psi plenum pressure.

The breech seals can be replaced by O rings according to maxtrouble and marflow777:

The air tube seal is available on eBay, as mentioned above.

I dont believe they are high failure items, in my experience anyway.

Ydunn.223 has both the IZH 46M and AV46m for sale in the classifieds.

bchannell said:

I always wondered, why above reg pressure. In that state, the spring washers are under compression for long periods of time.
If stored just below reg pressure, the springs are at rest and all rings have pressure on them.
Just curious.

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I do it to keep the regulator valve seated. Valve seats keep their shape when closed and under some measure of pressure. My experience with regulator repair is all Feinwerkbau, they use a nylon or some other plastic for the regulator seat.

IanC said:

Thank you for starting this thread there are some really beautiful rifles here. Just curious though. I have a fairly rough condition HW35 no rust just old with a poor finish. I think it might be neat to get my rifle chromed. Does the chrome process also chrome the inside of the compression tube and barrel? If so does the movement of the piston scrape the chrome and produce chips? Or is there a way to just have the chrome on the external surfaces only?

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I'm no expert on metal finishing, but it's typical to seal up openings so that only exterior surfaces are done.

True chrome plating is extremely durable though. The AK 47 has a chrome-plated bore.

Have you checked the..."Search" function ??

It has a LOT of reading already written on the subject ! No waiting, just read away, same folks answering those questions as will answer your...question.

Mike