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FX Smooth Twist and Polygonal barrels in .177 which is best?

Well I just can't let this dog lay. Normally I would stay out of this kind of discussion, but I've been using an FX Royale 400 (.177 cal - 20 ft-lbs) for the last three years to shoot field target in the Hunter PCP class. So when the rumors start that these guns are not accurate at 20 ft-lbs, well that's just hooey. The Smooth Twist barrels are great performers and can easily hold their own with other FT contenders.
These barrels were designed to shoot JSB pellets, so I'd start with some of those. Personally I shoot Air Arms 10.3 because they're a bit more consistent in my gun.
Anyway here's a sped up video of 9 shots (why not 10, I lost count) I took tonight at 55 yds, very light breeze. The background target has 1" squares.
If you can shoot a slingshot better than this, I'll buy it.

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Glad you piped up and kicked the dog!! Funny how things get started and just snowball into fact from being essentially fiction.

Pellet Pens

These are great in the winter time or dealing with gloves for .177's. They hold the pellet in place so it can be manipulated into the breech. I have one in my range bag at all times.

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I just bought a set. Thank you
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Huben  GK1 - last magazine shot

It is a hammerless system with a balanced valve design …
Yes I know lol. I have a little understanding how this system works. Here’s a thread I started 5 years ago on the K1:

Understanding the hammerless system

Have a look at it. Perhaps you will gain a better understanding of the hammerless system and the role of the striker spring in conjunction with the opening valve/ closing valve.

*** It is NOT a balanced valve. A balanced valve uses a HAMMER. This is hammerless… remember. There are two valves. One of them is a blow open valve and the other is, a never before seen valve, used to close the blow open valve.
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N/A  What else?

I was/am a traditional sporter conformist with both PCP and Springers; UNTIL I recently purchased an Airforce CondorSS in .22....WOW is the word....mid 900's in velocity and low to mid 50's in energy....stock out of the box punching the same hole at 40 yds...nice pattern at 75! Super quiet.. Threw a scope in it, now that is just about all I shoot.....grab and go! Made in Texas for 20 some odd years....
I'm a fan of the AirForce utility guns. So easy to maintain and modify. I have a TalonSS that the only original parts left are the frame and the power wheel. Crank up the reg pressure and .22 H&N Baracuda Match at 1050FPS and 70FPE.

With regulator and plenum my .25 Condor can fire JTS 39gr at 900fps at 1750psi.

Webley tomahawk breach

Thanks again for all your advice, I've got the barrel out and have ordered the Loctite 680.
Slather it on good , the whole barrel that goes into the breech. Green everywhere , twist it in slowly to get complete saturation use the breech screw to align it up and push it through. If it’s a half moon like factory barrels it will only go in one way, and only so far for breech seal clearance. If it’s a latter run LW type it can be a square notch. With room to adjust. That is done by a whole different method as it needs to be pushed rearward enough to seal and keep the breech bolt in the slot. A vice with wooden jaws and a solid wall to push the barrel into the block with the breech seal in the barrel end. Let sit unto the retainer drys, 24 hrs is best but after 4 it’s never moving with out 400* heat.

You have working time. And don’t worry about the run out of retainer 680, as it’s a good thing. Clean with a good lacquer thinner as it will not dry like glue sitting in the open.. it’s a lack of oxygen drying adhesive.

Daisy  Daisy 853 - unusual

i have been upgrading my 853 to what is now the 753 front and rear sights
the rear i have not decided yet but the front is a win
here is a picture with the weights and i use just a kitchen scale
but the globe sight is the win big and open for a better view
old small rear sight will not work Daisies FWB 300 clone sight will
the new barrel weight didn't come with set screws the other one uses in the factory are the same size 1/4-20
weight 5 bucks globe sight 5 bucks
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Crosman  Crosman 1322 w MELLONAIR flat top trail and error

Since it’s not my money, I think you need to put a steel breech on that bad boy. I bought one on eBay not too long ago. It’s a knockoff and doesn’t have the cut out for the LPA rear sight . Got it for real cheap and it works very well.
This are pretty impressive numbers. I’ll be digging mine out sometime as I would like to get the most power out of three pumps . Any more pumping than that and I just pull out the Beeman P1.

N/A  Pinty bullpup...is it worth it???

Absolutely worth more than the price of admission. I figured when I got mine several months ago the rail would be correct, but it wasn't so I sent an email and within a couple days I had the correct one. Take it apart and clean the gunk off, back down the trigger spring retainer, lube all friction point with a dry lube and its a good little gun. Got my mags from Spike_9 on here. If you're gonna buy one get his off the classifieds. I've been very tempted to pick it up so my son and I both have one for squirrel hunting. I've done zero tuning on it and it's a tack driver for what it is with 16gr.

FX  Tuning to the knee… or maybe not?!

Now I understand our ease of communication. I've put 1000 slugs in the trap for every 10 I've used in the field. Noise, grouping, es. Once upon a time I was sorting ammo one at a time to.0001in with inspection mics and washing, picking flash and lubing. None of it mattered because the guy behind the trigger was a bigger issue. It took all that work to figure that out.
Personally, I blame and curse a third party. Often the shriners or whoever took the hare krsna out of airports. Or maybe its the quantum effects from my time fighting for the spürdate legion of the finngolian khaganate in the finno-korean hyperwar.

N/A  HW100 upgrades

I have 177 HW100S that I tuned down to 490FPS with 9.1G Norma pellet for 10M indoor practice. I could get 8 mags per fill with the titanium cylinder, with very good accuracy. I had the exhaust valve plunger get warped, so I replaced it with a new and improved exhaust assembly. I fiddled with the regulator and hammer to get a little more oomph. Now I can only get down to 650FPS with the hammer pressure at minimum, and really the hammer does not impact the speed that much. Now I get 5 mags a fill. So I guess the regulator is too low? When I get time I'm. going to increase the regulator a 1/4 - 1/2 turn CW and see if it closed quicker. I kinda was hoping for 550FPS and 6/7 mags a fill.
So I don't understand the new exhaust assembly from HW100 Tuning inc. Maybe that has something to do with the velocity range? HW100 is closed for a couple weeks due to a family death, so I am not going to email them.

Diana  Consistency problems Diana 340 N-Tec

Make sure you are shooting the artillery hold. Also, make sure your hand locations, cheek weld, and pressure are consistent from shot to shot. I have had to experiment with several different holds and remember the hold each time to get my FWB 124D shooting well.
Will do, thanks

Any 'Labor Day' sales yet?

Anyone getting emails about Labor Day sales yet?

If Pyramyd/Airgun Depot does about 12% off on those Reximex Daystar rifles I might buy one???
Pyramyd just bumped their sale up from 10% to 12% so I made good on what I said above and ordered the Daystar.

If it's like the Reximex Lyra I bought last year then I'll spend about 2-weeks working on it a little here and there to fix all the stuff that's wrong with it right out of the box. But then, once fixed, it'll be a reliable and accurate rifle.

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