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Tuning  Sorting FX Pellets

I just did a full tank string of 120 shots using the sorted FX 25.4 25 caliber pellets. The first 91 were all the 25.2 weight group and the rest were the 25.1 group. Wow, what a difference I am no longer disappointed with the consistency of this 910 fps tune! I've attached a chart of the whole string, the first 100 shots and the first 30 shots. looks like bottle pressure started going below the regulator setting around 100 shots. I shot it all the was down to about 105 bar bottle pressure. I am still only shooting to get the fps consistent for the tune. It's too cold and snowy right now to shoot outside. I am really curious to see how the low ep and std relate to accuracy. Steve AEAC said 910 fps was a good speed for these pellets in the 25cal Avenge-X so I am hopeful.

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Skout  Digital gauges for the Skout Evo that display in PSI as well as BAR, both high and low pressure

Nice write-up Chuck
i use digitals for my HPR and tank on my Epoch..but kept the analog on the LPR
would like to hear your thoughts on a digital for the LPR 🙂...when you get it
Is it helping with the S.D. and E.S.?
Thanks
Mike
I think upgrading to digital gauges, especially if you periodically change reg settings, is worth doing for one reason... you reduce system variability. Some of the best shooting platforms are achieved not by just one large improvement (a barrel upgrade maybe), but by several small improvements in addition to the big improvements. Variability in a system is always additive, and any and all reduction improves the overall system consistency and repeatability.

As for the digital gauge on the LPR, I don't know. There seems to be a couple of schools of thought on the LPR. After getting my first Skout platform, I gathered from my general forum reading that you initially set the HPR and LPR for a good tune, then let the LPR follow the HPR as you adjust the HPR for different velocities, or generally keeping the LPR at a given percentage of the HPR pressure. This seems to work fine for many. However, in talking to Bill Gardner with some specific tuning questions (my only tuning experience was with FX Impacts), he was very specific in his explanation of his tuning procedure for the Evo. It's very simple and consistent for both pellets and slugs but varies slightly from the above when it comes to the LPR. You start your tuning with the HPR at a pressure to give you a starting velocity you desire, and "the LPR between 180 psi and 200 psi, with 190 psi being best" (Bill's words). You adjust the HPR to get the tuned velocity you want, then you set the LPR back to 190 if it moved while adjusting the HPR. This is where the thought processes are different. Bill definitely indicates to use ~190 psi on the LPR to drive the solenoid. Not that letting the LPR follow the HPR is wrong, I think it's just that the LPR is just only operating the solenoid/valve. It makes sense to me that there would be a best pressure for that, and any pressure above that optimal pressure is just wasting air (system variability).

Probably any of these methods work, maybe even equally accurately, but maybe one saves a little air and doesn't overdrive/wear the solenoid/valve. I'm not sure. What I do know is Bill Gardner and Skout Airguns are always moving forward and will implement a process change as soon as they see a benefit from it, thus always moving forward and improving. Maybe a few months ago letting the LPR follow the HPR was the normal method Skout suggested, but today they suggest keeping the LPR at 190 psi. Maybe tomorrow that will change. I do know for sure that it will be a long time before I know better than Bill Gardner.

Now... back to the digital gauge on the LPR... probably not a significant improvement in accuracy, but maybe a minor improvement in system performance, and better consistency setting the LPR to 190 over a low-res analog gauge. Worth doing? Totally individual. I choose to based on my beliefs about consistency and reducing ANY system variability I can within reason.

I'll let you know how I feel once it's on there and I've used it.

Daystate  Daystate MK4

If i were 50 years younger and still on our base shooting team things like that would be quite important. But I'm old, I shake and my eyesight sucks. So I'm much more interested in the aesthetics than the ergonomics. If the seller ever ships i will take ownership of a couple quite fetching examples of British air smithing. From around 2000-2002

A. H. Hartley .22 Tiger 10 LE
Falcon Hawk .22 FH-19HN or FH-19HT

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Umarex  Notos with Huben valve expelled O ring leak

No, mine was the pre plenum model. At the time I bought it, last November, they hadn't yet offered the one that fixes all the original leaking valves and after they came out with the plenum dream valve I discovered they offered just the replacement plenum alone for it, so I tries to order it, not once but three times and they kept replying "If you purchased it from AliExpress it won't work because the threads are different". Which was ridiculous because if it screwed onto the gun, which it did, the threads weren't different, that aside, I told them once I bought it from a PCP/Airsoft dealer and they sent me back the same message again. So the second time, I sent them pics of the valve in and out of the box and the cover with all their logos and stuff. That must have pissed them off cause I never heard from them again. That's when I said screw it and just sold the bottle, & valve on ebay and put it back to stock! Just a heads up: Anyone buying on of the new dreams should go directly to Huben Power .com for it. It's $149.00 pus an outrageous shipping charge that comes to a total of $167 or so but that's still a LOT cheaper than getting it for $249 from a dealer.

something that might be of interest to the home hobbyist?

Barrel bending.Here;s a jug made out of 1,1/4 square box tubing', straight edge,pump jack,dial indacator.Here are some pics. to give ya a idea?i no your thinken just chuck it up in a lath and hit it up with a dial indicator? But not every guy has a lath in his garage?This one had to be bent from left to right."O" i did have to take the lawyer spring out and replace it in the trigger spring.Spell police let the people read it and look at the picture a little before ya come in here?

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Ok bought a airforce texan .30 came with these pellets in a bottle they shoot great but have no idea what brand they are or weight any help out there


They are called sabots incase you want to research them more.
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