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Other  Just how much must I pay for "Accuracy" in a PCP gun?

EdCaffreyMS
For those posting with guns for sale: It's a done deal for me. I purchased a BSA R10SE from Airguns of Arizona. It's in process of being inspected/tested (at my request), and should get here by mid next week. This will be my last gun purchase for a while..... I'm starting to get far too many airguns.

It's a shame that I can't trust it when the company, or even an individual seller says "its very accurate" or "its like a laser". I've already seen it in the air gun purchases I've made. The ONLY way to know is handle it, and shoot it.

I simply don't like anything "bullpup style.".... I spent a career with an assault weapon of one type or another in my hands most days... so for me, it's traditional-style guns by choice... whether that be air or powder guns.

Although I've only been dealing with/shooting airguns for a couple of years, it's very obvious to me that overall, they are far less accurate than powder guns of similar caliber. Yes, shooting is a perishable skill, and must be practiced to maintain ones skill set. However, there are instances where the individual's skills exceed the gun's capability, and I've seen much more of that with airguns than with powder when considering "price point accuracy". That's not at all meant to be inflammatory, it's simply how I see it.

I'm sure I'll have questions about the BSA gun that's on its way, but it will have to be my last purchase....at least for a while.

Many Thanks to those who lent valuable info to this thread; I appreciate that very much!
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FWB  Fwb 124, which kit ,maccari or vortek? Want it smooth action and accurate power.

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That picture is what I think I'll find upon disassembly. Does not surprise me as my original 124 went probably 13 years ago,then sat in rack. I'm an old guy so not familiar with new fangled tech like you tube, found it and now learning alot about these airguns. Unfortunately while looking for a replacement stock for cracked BSA stock on e bay I now have 5 more air rifles. I am in 1st step admitting I have a problem. Those Beeman catalogs from early 80s still haunt me, lm buying ghosts of airguns past. Oh yeah enjoying getting and shooting now. Hope it warms up soon for backyard shoots. Thank everyone for input.
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2 cylinder tuxing 4500 psi compressor PRV

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357cal said:
I also own 2 Tuxing twin cylinder but I have no need to push them over 4500, to each there own. My aim is to have it run 25 min and head temp below 120 and I have done that. Next is the oil temp. For the money they are very hard to beat if you can do those 2 things. One of mine is going on 4 years old and used often before I bought the 2nd one.
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I skipped the twins and wanted more vokume now., 😅

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Umarex  Synergis Elite.177

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Toxylon said:
A whole bunch of big questions! I'll take a stab at it.

Fixed barrel vs. break barrel has been discussed to the ground several times, in many places. There is no truth. Field Target competition is the most accuracy-demanding spring gun arena. Break barrels are almost non-existent on the podium there. BUT very accurate independent shooters, many of them here, shoot break barrel guns with great accuracy. Some have both fixed barrel and break barrel guns, and report no real difference in accuracy between them.

I find fixed barrel guns easier to be accurate with, outside the very best break barrel guns, like my Walther LGV. I find break barrel guns often out of whack with regards to correct pivot joint tension, and many guns, including the Weihrauchs I've had, are not made precisely enough there for adjustments to be either easy or dependable. The reason the LGV is so good is that the pivot joint is made extremely precisely. There is no pivot joint to go out of whack in a fixed barrel gun, but the powerplant and the barrel can be out of whack in them, too, negating any advantage of the fixed barrel.

A gasram gun isn't better than a coilspring gun. Most of the claims made by manufacturers on the advantages of gasrams are little more than lies to boost sales, and gasram guns have disadvantages peculiar to them, such as zero possibility to adjust power in most models, the gas powerplant's extreme reactivity to temperature swings, and the propensity of gasrams to leak sooner or later, especially after a longer period of no use. Still, some people like gasram guns over coilspring guns, and they are not wrong.

a $200 gasram underlever isn't better than a $700 coilspring breakbarrel. Gasram guns are not noted for their accuracy, and are never seen at the FT circuit. A gun's barrel is the most important factor in accuracy, and independent of the mode of cocking.
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I used to own a .25 cal Benjamin Trail I got from Walmart for $230 It was too hard to use with my bad shoulder , so I sold it. I also bought a .22 cal Titan for a $100 ugly color finish on the stock , so I used a propane torch burnt some stripes in it , and finished it in a Cherry stain. My friend loved it , so much he had to have it , so that's gone too
I want to get a under lever , or a brake barrel to have that ability to just have the gun , and pellets that will work for survival, or grab , and go type thing.
I'm a USAF vet living on a fixed income , but can buy used of I need to. Any suggestions for a dependable one with accuracy. I was looking at the synergis for $189 , but really don't know. I also seen a new Beeman under lever for $195. Appreciate any advice.
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Rat Table Pays Off…

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L.Leon said:
Still need to refine the setup a bit and reposition the table. But was able to take these two tonight. The rats knew I was there because there was an unexpected by me, backlighting situation. Anyway stayed only an hour, as it was a long workday and I got cold. And like I mention I need to refind the setup. These two were taken at 15 yards, as you can see and hear. The Atomic with the TP on low and the CPHPs simply wreck them at those distance… Both rats were lobotomized…View attachment 549911


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Luis , this encouraged me to try a new set up at barn #3 last night. No table , but using an old window frame from another side of the cow area. I did get several shots before nailing one. It was like wack a mole as they traversed the manure area !! Since the cows were in up to the knees in this area because of a water leak there, I refrained from extraction for proof of connection, you (all) are gonna have to trust me on this.
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N/A  Minimal tuning and accurate pcp rifle?

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L.Leon said:
Check out this post by a fellow member who did just that. Good luck!

Brocock/BRK - Custom sniper hr

Havent posted on here in awhile. Figured Id share my latest boredom. I wanted to ditch the tank as I favor tube guns. So I adapted a aea 600cc tank, external reg and plenum. Adapter is 7075 aluminum. You have to bore some flow holes in the body and plug a couple things. It also has a tensioned...
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Thanks.

Read his post, too complicated for me. I’m ok with the 480 CC bottle, I just prefer the look and feel of a cylinder gun. My RAW TM1000X .177 has a nice Titanium air cylinder and was just curious if I could get AoA to fit one for the new Magnum.

I confirmed with AoA sales, and they do not.
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Knowing the properties of your ammo

ChickenDumpling
Yes, it is negligent. Unless your neighbor was okay with possible damages prior to the shot. I have been negligent before in the shooting area, so forever guilty as charged. Yeah, it could have cost me injury and has caused damages. Was not fun telling Dad when I shot the back window out of his 1954 Bel-Air after missing a blackbird under 15 yards. That rear window appeared to go instantly white behind that exiting blackbird on the fence post. Didn't think I'd miss and oh that feeling hits ya in the gut. Yes, I also understand complacency, over confidence, and lax under routines. I've made many mistakes. I try to be mindful, hope to be corrected, and point out mis-steps committed by others.
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FX Fill Probe for Ranchero

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EPG said:
AliExpress - with quick disconnect built in:

I just found this on AliExpress: $3.55 | Air Fill Filling Probe For FX Hatsan,BSA,Webley,SMK Artemis,Cricket,WEIHRAUCH,Walther, PR900, Rotex R8 and RM8 Brocock

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Thank you.
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Diana  Scope and mount for Diana Mod 48/52

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marflow 777 said:
so i looked up the scope at Ohhunt site the scope is worth 45 bucks
first off heavy recoiling air rifle and heavy scopes do not get along and this scope weighs over 22 ozs
now back to the scope
let's assume the scope is well made at the price of 45 bucks, the chances of it lasting long on a 52 could be very short
so, now you have heavy cheap scope on a hard hitting air rifle and top that off it fits so poorly you can load the pellet
now the fact is the 48-52-54 rifle need and droop mount and that is where i would start and that will take you to Weaver-picatinny rings
i would look for a scope that is much shorter something in the Leaper line up but that is up to you

it is just the wrong scope mounts and rings will not solve the problem a new scope would but do your homework not all scopes are rated for spring air rifle use
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Thanks for the advice. I tried using the scope because I only paid $20 for it new. If it's anything like my CVLife scopes it should hold up. I've had them on my 22fpe .177 gas piston and another 18 FPe .177 for about two years now without issue. I was looking at the UTG DN460 mount. But it's too long so I'll mount it on my PCP and swap scopes.
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DFL Moderator Caliber Sizing

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Benjamin Armada semi-auto .22 shrouded barrel. I bought the Yokozuna .22. It clipped. Inconsistent accuracy when it didn't. Don't use it. My DBA meter needs to be calibrated so I downloaded one of those apps on my phone. App said it dropped 3 dba. By my wife's and my ear, it took a little of the sharpness away. I haven't tried to check alignment because I didn't think the weight trade off at the end of the barrel was worth the small improvement.
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Close out on Coltri

Brian10956
I just stocked up on compressor oil. Their shipping was high but if you order 6 pints it’s still half the price of other quality brand oils. I also got air filter for my Daystate compressor their price was less than that half that charged elsewhere

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Coltri CE 750 Compressor Oil · 0.5L

Coltri CE 750 Oil is no longer produced by Coltri, but for a limited time, we have it in stock! Coltri Oil ST 755 is the replacement for Coltri Oil CE 750.
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Oil was 7.50

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Intake Filter Cartridge MCH6

Air intake filter for Nuvair (3-3.5), Coltri (MCH6), American Airworks (Fast 35), Max-Air (35) and Nautica.
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Filter 9.95
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