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Tuning  Tuning experiments

Gotten interested in tuning after all the reading on this forum. I decided to experiment with 2 identical rifles, this will allow me to compare differences between them and how they react to changes.

I purchased 2 Ruger Air Hawks in .177, 480fps versions. I always liked these guns for a budget springer. These were somewhat cheap due to being low power? I was looking to tune these around 12 ft/lb.

I had both apart many times with various springs. Much trigger work on both. Barrels recrowned and polished.

Air Hawk I @ 11 ft/lb ; .119x30 coil spring, Crosman PHP 7.6gr @ 800fps.

Air Hawk II @ 13 ft/lb ; .120x30 coil spring with top hat. H&N FTT 8.64gr @ 830fps.

So what did I figure out;

Rifles are not the same even if they appear identical.

You cant force a rifle to like a certain pellet. Few hundred shots on each with many different pellets. One of the guns grouped best with CPHP 7.6. I spent much time trying to get it to group with H&N FTT 8.6 since the other gun grouped great with them.

The crown matters! Initially both guns really weren't grouping well. I looked at the crowns and the lands looked smashed into the grooves, like a dull tool just pressed into the barrel. I recut and polished the crowns on both guns and this is where significant changes happened. Both give dime size groups at 25yds. One seems slightly more accurate but may be in my mind.

In the end they both have great shot cycles and accuracy. Triggers pretty decent. These shoot as good (maybe better) as my Diana 34. Fun time messing with these but I never seem to leave well enough alone so im sure Ill keep messing with them.

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Sheridan  Trigger sear-engagement adjuster for Sheridan

I made one for my Sheridan back eighties when I was building model airplanes. It is a cut off Exacto blade made as a stop. Recently the safety began to fail, and the Silverstreak above it had a beautiful trigger, so I changed the trigger! Problem solved. 👍
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50 yards

How much money do you have for an airgun? "BEST" has determining factors. Be it budget, aesthetics, intended use, preferred caliber, type of projectiles.......
You see where I'm going with this? "BEST" can be situational, it's not & never will be the same for everyone! One person's best could be something that you absolutely hate.

JSB KO 20.83gr, if available..

I've used them out to 178yds running them at 1020 out of the impact (jsb ko) and they are still killer. Zan are great at accuracy but since changing the formula they are definitely harder than they used to be and much more expensive now at $22-$24 especially if you buy directly from zans website. For better accuracy and penetrate with good expansion I would pick the HN HP2 .25 over the zans but that's just me.

With these jsb jo you can shoot then as slow like 800fps or less and still get great accuracy and great expansion.
I've had great accuracy out to 200y with the KO in light wind, but in 5-10mph wind the 23gr ZAN are more predictable way out there. My Barra doesn't like H&N or NSA, and I tried a lot of both, all 25gr or less. JSB and ZAN for the win. I definately prefer JSB lead. It just works the best of all the brands I've used. I hate the term fan-boy, but I guess it fits, so I'll wear it for JSB.
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Other  Charging handle identification?? Custom gun, well (sort of)

That looks like a QB 78 or an ARplatform. From what I remember there’s an Allen key bolt threaded into the hammer that keeps it in the position. Did you by chance take that out already?
Yes, that bolt is already out. This charging handle goes all the way through. I think who ever assembled it used red loc tite. Then when it broke they used a brass cover red loc tited to the end of the broken shaft. I'm going to let it sit overnight with penetrating oil and try again tomorrow. If it still doesn't budge I'll cut it off with a Dremel so I can at least pull it out to access the valve.

Silly game

I received my Marauder.22 LW back from AGR last week. Had a ridiculous sinus thing/cold so didn't get to the range. Then Friday fell from a hammock flat on my back. I have a wrecked back already,discs blown, stenosis,etc. So I can't even hold off hand or carry much with out pain.
So I put on the scope,got new offset rings so I can do more comfort.
And now the fun! Since not sighted in,I can just shoot into the weeds in the back.
So I did the 25.4s and they seem very fast. Rich said in the 900's I think.
So I got my lightest crossman 14.3's and found a nice "crack' in the report. So brief super sonic!
Very entertaining! Did a couple and realized may draw attention to me.
Anyone else play with the report for giggles?
I hope next week to get the chrony out and document speed of the usable pellets and maybe a light one or two as well!
Shot cycle is very smooth and is the bolt,he really does fine work.
Yes. And obnoxious ones at that. My friend and I dialed up our fx guns for slugs and learned the pellets could make noise. I have a long barrel and was able to send 23 slugs super sonic and monster redesigns very very supersonic.

The fun was brief as it was spooking the neighbors horses.

Air Venturi  Microstrike. Who is waiting for one/ ordered or will order one?

I’ve seen Notoses selling for over 300 so this Microstrike price seems fair. The mere
Fact that I could have a .177 little carbine with easy adjustability vs the Notoses disassemble for everything adjustments makes it worth the difference
That's cool but once I get the gun tuned/adjusted like I want it I have no need for further "tinkering" so the external adjustability is moot.

HW/Weihrauch  Again

I have no words, I really hope you realize your dream.
Being raised in a simple family not long after the war to end all wars and learning about the great recession a decade or so earlier and living on the tail end of rationing stamps, the men in my family worked in the nearby textile mills, we had a large victory garden and raised a few meat animals and a bunch of laying hens.
My Point being we really didn't have any pocket money that wasn't ear marked for something and what we did have in the way of toys was usually more practical than pretty, I've hunted and fish most of my life and did allot of shooting both recreational and competitive, now days most of my shooting is with my air guns, I have a few Weirauch rifles and a bunch of lower priced air rifles (all excellent shooters) but they all shoot great with the stocks they came with, I've had to opportunity to purchase a few custom stocks for my HW's but the practical side of me asks "will a custom figured walnut stock make them shoot any better", probably not, I'm picky about what I buy, all my air rifles have well finished wooden stocks and bright bluing on the metal, they all look great just the way they are, there's an old French saying that translated says "whatever floats your boat", it works for me.
BTW, when you get your rifles all gussied up post a few pictures so we can all enjoy them.
Reaiize my dream. Are your kidding me? Rather than rip into you. I’m not going to bore you with my details.
Please leave these insulting remarks to yourself. Crow

Daisy  Daisy front sight inserts 753

let me state the obvious
the 853 inserts are small and only used on that and 853c fix globe sight muzzle weight
the 753 globe sight uses 17.2mm Anschutz inserts but the globe sight uses a bastard size dovetail
they are sold at Daisy for 5 bucks and PA wants 8.99 and with the Air Venturi name 33.99 all the same globe sight the sight and muzzle weight upgrade for the 853 is 5 bucks for the weight and 5 buck for the sight and the rear sight will have be up graded to the Daisy FWB clone
Daisy sells the 853 inserts for 2 bucks the shipping well be 3 times that
https://www.daisy.com/product/99z-853-499-front-sight-inserts/

the good enough design makes inserts that will work will and the Weihrauch on should excite the HW owners because HW has never offered much

Inexpensive target scope

Shot a target with it but it wasn't very good. I think it was a 186. But the last four targets were all Xs. I just wasn't shooting very well, the scope works great. I probably did not give the gun enough warm up shots either. The first cell was a 15. I improved from there but until the last two cells I did not string 10s or Xs together like I need to. I still think it's an excellent buy. It's worth the $200 it normally costs, in my opinion, but for less than $165 it's a great buy.
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N/A  Question for you air arrow shooters?

I have a external regulator that i use when target shooting...I have seen others add a regulator to the regular airsaber..You loose a little power but much easier for most shooters... There was a regular airsaber in the classifieds here with a regulator already installed for sale on AGN.. Do a search on the AGN classifieds...Things sell slowly there...
Ok thanks again

For you hand pumpers, how often do you change the moisture filter?

Ok so I should definitely check then I’ve probably filled at least 5x or more but I assumed they were lasting a lot longer. Glad I asked. Ty
You are probably fine, but it’s good to ask others. I just like to check things in stages before I get to the “oh crap” time.

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