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What springer did you shoot today?

The other day I just about passed out. I saw an albino squirrel. Well he was blonde, I mean she.
Check this guy out I stole his love nest. View attachment 581226Crow
Around Campus in Bowling Green Kentucky , Actually white squirrels not albino
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Diana Scope Mount

This Diana Scope Mount is also a barrel droop compensator.
correct?
If so, then mounted in the above orientation it will help adjust for low POI
Please, please correct me quick if I am mistaken

Thanks
Edward
You are correct, 10 MOA if I remember.

Snowpeak  SPA Regulator setting

I've been tuning my P35 and P35X and got a little lost so I started removing the regulator to change it and doing some measurements. There are no markings on the regulator to tell you what setting of the adjustment screw gives you what regulator pressure. I am also unaware of a regulator tester for spa regulators. If you know of one I would love to spend a little money and get one. Anyway, so we have a regulator and we want to make a change, how do we know where to turn the screw to? I think the paper tape that Huma puts on theirs is a bit of a clue. I have a Huma in my Caiman and I had to remove excess silicone grease from its washer stack and put a little on the O-ring of the adjustment screw after I got the gun. So I've had it apart. I did not take measurements of the two but just looking at them the SPA regulator looks a lot like the Huma. But the point I am getting slowly towards making is the Huma markings are for one turn or less of the regulator stem. I think the useful settings of the SPA are probably similar. All occur in about one turn of the adjustment stem. But where do we start?

I have not done the work to tell you exactly what length correlates to what regulator setting but my guess is whatever I told you would not be exact for your regulator anyway. I'm messing with two guns that are not acting right and I suspect there is a fair bit of tolerance in the SPA parts. But I think we should target about 50 mm length. The picture shows how I measure it with a digital caliper. The stem moves about 0.5mm for one turn. I don't think you can go up in length (and regulator pressure) a lot but I've used 50.15 successfully before. So maybe 49.? (6?, 7?, 8?) to 50.2 would be useful lengths to try. Again, a shorter length will be a lower regulator pressure. A longer length will be a higher pressure.

What I recommend is to set the length to about 50mm. Say between 49.95 and 50.05. The point is not that you have to be ultra precise, you are just trying to get in the ballpark. I have the regulator in my P35X set this way and it is giving me about 700 fps on 25.4s, for example. It seems to be working but blew out an O-ring yesterday so I need to shoot it a bit more to be sure. This P35X has a 450mm barrel so it's velocity will be low, I am trying to set it up around 30 fpe for a pretty good shot count and plenty of power for squirrels. So I have one data point to say a regulator length of about 50mm will work but result in a lower power than a lot of you probably want. Turning it up 1/4 turn would be .125mm and about the maximum I would try next if I wanted more velocity/fpe. If I wanted less I would shorten the regulator by a similar amount.

I don't know what SPA guns use the same regulator but my 3 P35s, my one bullshark, and my one P35X all seem to. I've interchanged them between guns. I'm guessing the Scout and Ranger may be the same and I wonder if the two new Dianas might also have the same regulator.

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Filling Benjamin Marauder w/ compressed air

Ok thanks. I wish I didn’t waste over $200 on the Benjamin hand pump
Having an unused hand pump is a rite of initiation into PCP ownership. I keep threatening to use mine just so the abs can get a workout (it never happens)

Probably 3/4 of the forum members are also NIB hand pump owners.
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FX  My Fx Panthera needs some help

The issue is the amount of time the round is under pressure in a barrel. Longer barrel, greater final velocity.

Once the pellet leaves the barrel acceleration ends. So you require greater initial pressure to accelerate a round in a 300mm barrel than you did for the longer barrel at equal velocity.

That just takes more air. Shorter barrel either accept high air use or reduced velocity.

Also the air exiting the 300mm barrel contains more energy at exit than the longer barrel. More energy more volume.

AEA  What size fill tank for a Megalodon .50?

I dont have a Meg but I do have an Element Max in .457. I quit filling to 4500, now I fill to around 2800/3000 psi and get 5 or 6 shots all around 250 lbft of energy. My post has some more specific info you may be interested in about air usage. If you have a 6.8ltr bottle you could do a lot of shooting. I want to try it out with my 1.6ltr bottle to see how many actual fills I get.


Hope this helps you out
Thank you!!!
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Karma  Karma eq

My reg was dry. It also had a bit of rust on the pressure bar. Pulled it, cleaned, polished the pressure bar, reassembled with silicone grease.

(I have a tin of "reg butter" but it looks exactly like the silicone, food-grade "superlube" grease I bought at Harbor Freight. I'm gonna give it a try)

That cured the downward creep for me.

They all have a recovery rate. I'm learning to take a breath or two between shots...
Reg butter is silicone lube. The difference is that he has a blend of various ones mixed together. I think the point is to have various viscosities to ensure performance over a range of temps.

What do I have to do to get to reg? I’m guessing you have to take the bottle off to get to it?

And recovery rate is very normal. The faster the better over course. Mostly I don’t want to fight the reg to know what my tune is.

Postal Service Woes, Lost Barrel

I wish I could pass along one good piece of shipping advice and have it stick.
DO NOT USE GROUND ADVANTAGE
If it's not something trivial, then go for Priority Mail. Use pirateship.com and it'll be much cheaper.
Even better, don't use USPS at all, use UPS ground on pirateship.com.

Wanna save hassles? Hard feelings? Worrying? Follow this advice.
I'm just the recipient and since they surprised me replacing the barrel under warranty I didn't get any options on the shipping.
But they did use the Ground Advantage.
I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that it will be found and arrive eventually.

Postal Service Woes, Lost Barrel

I wish I could pass along one good piece of shipping advice and have it stick.
DO NOT USE GROUND ADVANTAGE
If it's not something trivial, then go for Priority Mail. Use pirateship.com and it'll be much cheaper.
Even better, don't use USPS at all, use UPS ground on pirateship.com.

Wanna save hassles? Hard feelings? Worrying? Follow this advice.

FX  My Fx Panthera needs some help

I recently changed the 700mm barrel to a 300mm for my Panthera and I just tested it out this afternoon. It still holding air, the regulator works fine, the speed is ok, the accuracy is excellent. But it needs too much air for every single shot and it’s super loud with a silencer on it. The air pressure gauge drops so fast and it shocks me. I couldn’t figure it out the issue. Please see the video link below. Thank you guys.

There may not be an issue, the shooter barrel will require a high reg pressure to achieve the same speed. The pressure at the end of the 300mm barrel will be higher than the 700mm barrel. That will cause the high noise level. The high reg will waste more air with the shorter barrel.
Have you changed any settings? What velocity was it running with the 700mm barrel?
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Benjamin  benjamin marauder

For sure, I’ve got to get 10 posts before I can DM folks about their classifieds… then it’s game on! I think I’m on 6 or 7… 😅
It'll be money well spent and you won't have any regrets.

Also since you asked about it, .25 is a fine caliber. Ample selection of relatively affordable ammunition to select from and performance is fine. Any differences between .22 and .25 is minutiae to be debated upon by air gun nerds.

Keep posting!
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new guy to airguns

Go big or go home! 😁 Just kidding.
I would go for a moderately priced pcp and a compressor. You'll enjoy it a lot more.
A Umarex Notos is a lot of fun for less than $300. Add a GX CS2 compressor for less than $300, and you're set for less than $600.
A Umarex Zelos is a better first rifle for your 50yd range and will do more target shooting, hunting, linking etc.
Avengers are pretty impressive for any man's money.
Wanna do it once-n-done? Bet you can't. But if you wanna try, go to AOA used section and buy one of the used BRK Snipers and you'll have a lifetime of fun.

1st Post, New Here

So easy to regulate AirForce guns. Either valves with integrated tophat or universal regulators that use the existing tophat.

Add in a plenum, either inline or integrated with the regulator and either power goes way up or shot count goes way up.

Then there are adapters that can allow you to utilize bottles as large as 1.1L.

That is the AF utility platform strength. You can literally take a stock .177 talon and convert it to a .25 70FPE (or more) hunter in less than 30 minutes using 2 Allen wrenches to remove 5 or 6 Allen screws.

Heavy Spring
Heavy Hammer
24" barrel
Regulator with 50cc plenum
High flow tophat
Angled adapter
1.1L CF bottle
About plenums, AF guns and their copycats LOVE them some plenum.

The air is a straight shot from the bottle to the pellet. Just the tophat to control the volume.

The objective is to provide air under pressure to the pellet for the length of the barrel.

To do that you either go unregulated with a high flow valve or regulated with a high flow valve and a plenum of the optimal size.

Optimal is 3-4x the barrel volume. A .25 24" barrel is 19.6cc. So a plenum 60-80cc is optimal. Huben Power makes a regulator with 50cc plenum.

Poppet style guns get less from a plenum than tophat style. Too many variables
Poppet dwell
Poppet size
Hammer spring and adjustment.
Transfer port size
90⁰ turns
And a few more.

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