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L.Leon · Jul 11, 2025

What a good and generous dad you are, and grandchildren to shoot with too…! You made my morning…

rdpjr6504 · Jul 11, 2025

Yes but a rifle that works on nitro, air or co2 is not available anywhere else that I know of.

FLgunner · Jul 11, 2025

Definitely DNT! And, Tactical Panda has a great sale going on right now, they even have the new V2 Zulus on sale.

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Mike_Lenardon · Jul 11, 2025

This listing has been renewed

Mike_Lenardon · Jul 11, 2025

This listing has been renewed

.20calguy · Jul 11, 2025

My eyes are at mess but I still manage some good shots. My 853 is scoped at the moment, but a pain to load with the scope in the way.

One memorable shot I had was very uncomfortable due to my eyes. It was offhand with a .22 pistol with open sights at fifty yards. The target was the little white box that my ear plugs came in. The bright white box was set against a bright green evening sunlit backdrop.
After a hand ful of misses I put on my readers and could see the sights perfectly, but the target was just a white blob that I aimed at the center of. I hit a quarter inch from dead center. I still have that little box hanging on the wall over my desk at work. Lol
I wound up scoping that pistol because the sights were so uncomfortable for my old eyes.

moyley87 · Jul 11, 2025

Croxton63 said:
Very cool. You have a good eye for balance and form. I didn't know that they sold laminate planks. Where did you find the plank?

Bought it from a company in Finland. Cost me £200 with shipment & taxes to the UK. Got enough to make 3 stocks out of it as the vulcan not very big. Bigger gun you would get 2 from the plank

elh0102 · Jul 11, 2025

There is a lot of discussion here about one MOA accuracy at 100 yards. I wonder, how many of those respondents consistently shoot 1" groups at 100 yards? I'm not a high level air rifle shooter, but I've been shooting firearms and air rifles a long time and I think I've learned a bit about it. One of those bits, there are very few standard power air rifles that will meet that test, and even fewer shooters who can meet varying conditions well enough to plunk 5 shots consistently into a one inch hole at 100 yards. As Mr. Monk said, I might be wrong, but I doubt it. So, to the OP I say, don't be discouraged if you find the one MOA test at 100 yards very daunting, and be amazed if you meet it.

Cheplicki · Jul 11, 2025

Tex-rex 50cal

airgunutty · Jul 11, 2025

HN Sport said:
Interesting. I don't recall us giving Napier permission to use us as a reference or to use our logo. Especially since we do NOT recommend lubing pellets.

A little trademark infringement. Sounds like you have royalties or a lawsuit in your future.

.20calguy · Jul 11, 2025

Wow!
I check mine every so often, but have never had them loosen.

.20calguy · Jul 11, 2025

Thats a nice one, congrats!

Joedirt199 · Jul 11, 2025

I think one of them is the new insert but the other 4 are the old style. I leave the felt in the first chamber and the rest empty. Not even using the plastic insert in the new one.

Croxton63 · Jul 11, 2025

Very cool. You have a good eye for balance and form. I didn't know that they sold laminate planks. Where did you find the plank?

moyley87 · Jul 11, 2025

grouch-o said:
interesting.
how did you carve it?

Mostly with this. Brilliant thing you be surprised how it takes it down

HN Sport · Jul 11, 2025

You summoned me, master?

Hatsan USA and Air Venturi (the wholesale division of Pyramyd Air) are our two distributors in the USA.

Deliveries to these two companies are completely independent of each other. Therefore, one company may have a product in stock while the other currently not.

In addition, pellets and slug production is unfortunately quite difficult at the moment because we are short-staffed. It's extremely difficult to find someone suitable. We are not the exception though; staff shortages are currently a widespread problem in our country.

Is anyone interested in a position as a machine operator at a company in rural Germany?

rc4fun · Jul 11, 2025

ophthalmologists, optometrists, and opticians. Only the first one is a doctor and is usually better at spotting problems.

HN Sport · Jul 11, 2025

Iowa Airgunner said:
I am going to find out. I used to clean lube sort all that and I stopped .
I buy JSB pellets not crosman premier and stopped doing anything but shooting.
Now I’m in a position that has me shooting field target three or four days a week. I am cranking through some pellets. So I bought a bottle of oil. And I put a new tin of pellets in a bag with six drops of oil. Rolled them around and returned them to the tin.
Now I am going to shoot both a new tin with oil and a new tin without . Both from the same batch. Let’s see what happens.

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Interesting. I don't recall us giving Napier permission to use us as a reference or to use our logo. Especially since we do NOT recommend lubing pellets.

grouch-o · Jul 11, 2025

interesting.
how did you carve it?

grouch-o · Jul 11, 2025

Sawney Bean said:
I'm pretty sure the Swarm mechanism was clipping the pellets as they loaded. Its the only explanation that makes sense to me. I probably fired over 500 shots through it before I removed the Swarm mechanism and what I eventually noticed was that although the velocity varied by up to 150 fps, it wasn't random. With a full magazine it would start out with velocities a bit low, then over the next couple shots it would gain about 50 fps, then the velocities would start going back down again with the last shot having the lowest velocity. It was dependent on the position of the magazine. I ordered two replacement magazines thinking that the mag was problem and those had less variation, but still more than I liked.

mmmh, thank you for the report, that makes sense.
wonder if others have made similar experiences.
did anybody else measure the muzzle speed consistency of their shot strings?

Air King · Jul 11, 2025

Joedirt199 said:
All 5 of my guns wear a Huma 30 2 or 3 section. No problems with accuracy on any of them and super quiet.

Is that the old style with kevlar inserts or the new Avalanche with the plastic inserts?

With the felt, my Avalanche now performs very well. The only thing left scientifically is to test the airguns unmodded vs. the Avalanche, which I can't do outside of the range because of noise.

JohanG · Jul 11, 2025

Markus33k said:
I got Kral Puncher shadow locked to 15Joules , what is a maximum power I can adjust using method provided above ? I have attached picture with regulator gauge with tank filled to 230bar . I have opened that part which is supposed to be Reg , there is only one bolt in reg and nothing more , I was expecting some kind of spring valve. 2nd picture

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Did you count how many turns it took to remove this regulator setting screw?
It only needs a quarter of a turn anti-clockwise to increase the pressure. then it needs to be gassed up again and the reg pressure checked on the regulator gauge. If it is still too low, repeat the whole process: degas, remove bottle, another eighth of a turn anti-clockwise. Then re-assemble and check the reg pressure again.

I would suggest turn the screw back in by hand until it just touches the tip of the regulator inside. then back off quarter of a turn and start from there.

Genob · Jul 11, 2025

I started making an special 2240 valve field service tool. I'll finish this later as I need use the Bridgeport mill to cut a slit.

JungleShooter · Jul 11, 2025

Mycapt65 said:
I agree to a degree. Scopes are definitely better built than not long ago. Do a box test with a turn and a half travel on each knob and see how a $500 scope fairs. It may pass initially but if you do a lot of dialing they wear quickly and lose their tracking accuracy. I had the option until not long ago to shoot out to 625 yards daily off my back deck. My 22lr requied nearly 15' of dialing or holdover at 320 yards and my actual experience shows that inexpensive scopes only track well for short dialing and or a short time. Its hard to put a specific price break on scopes because some companies are over priced and under deliver. Others are a good value in some areas but compromise other areas. IMO to get a good long range scope that has good mechanisms and decent glass, $500 is bare minimum.

As far as as airguns and distances go. Airguns aren't typically shooting distances that require much more than mediocre glass. Their slow velocities however require a lot of hold over or dialing. A well built scope with ok glass like mid tier Athlons are fine for airguns. Mind you I'm not saying airgunners don't deserve top tier glass. I'm saying it's not as necessary under 200 yards as it is at 500 plus.

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Thanks for clarifying — seems like we mostly agree.

And yes, you made the excellent observation how difficult it is to put price levels to quality levels — because of the variations between manufacturers.

And I want to congratulate you on your incredible backyard range — 625y sounds like a dream!!
How cool!!

Cheers,

Matthias

Bear-of-Grayling · Jul 11, 2025

marflow 777 said:
so i see there are 2 extra parts that make a C here is what my 853cm looks like and there are no parts that move the mag from right to left beside my finger
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The CM (clip/manual) model is a manual feed. Daisy left out the actuator bar/clip and spring that is on the C (clip) model. Parts number 40/41 plus the little spring (not listed) is all you need. I’m not sure if they are still available. Call Daisy and check.

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