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What are your thoughts on lead exposure?

I have a buddy recently retired as an engineer in the lead industry. As stated in some post above there is a lot of alarmist b's out there according to him. He said the only thing to be afraid of is molten lead hot enough to give off lead vapors and you inhale them. He emphasized that required extremely hot molten lead not all moltenlead.
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Other  Break Barrel VS. Underlever

This debate is as old as spring-piston guns themselves, LOL! The advantages of each system are well-covered by the excellent previous comments - you can't go too far wrong with any well-designed modern springer.

But just for giggles...a minor curve ball. An interesting system that theoretically combines advantages of both types, is the locked-breech break barrel, where the breech is held rigidly closed by a manually-operated lock mechanism of some sort. Examples include the vintage Walther LGV and Weihrauch HW 55 target rifles, and the more recent Anschutz 335 and Walther LGV sporters. The uber-classic HW 35 is, I think, the only current model with such a system.

To be honest, such guns are probably no more accurate than any other good break barrel. But certainly no less accurate, and they are interesting to study and fun to shoot! (Pic: HW 35's sliding lock, HW 55's rotating bar lock, and old HW 50's auto detent.)
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Rare airguns ?

Only rare in the fact that I've yet to see another rear cocking American classic with this furniture. It had a rotary sleeve bolt with a magnetic probe and shot bbs or pellets in its original form. It was my dad's bought new and it was my first air gun 30 years ago and a second hand gift.

I updated it and rust removed what I could, the barrel was shot out with bbs.

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Other  Gentle Shot Cycle

Having owned darn near every brand and price point of airguns available.... i find the most enjoyable thing about a really fine airgun, is a gentle shot cycle.
to me this means
smooth loading - easy access to the loading port
easy seating - getting the pellet into the breech the same depth every time
smooth cocking - for the bolt and hammer spring - or activation of the electronic firing system
predictable trigger release
minimal report (at my ear) from the action
minimal report (in immediate area) from the muzzle end
and lastly - no jolts or minimal muzzle flip

To date, no Airgun has beaten a properly tuned Redwolf. The gentle shot cycle of a Redwolf is my standard of excellence.

How about you? What airgun have you shot that has a truly gently shot cycle?
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Diana  Diana 54 air king pro 7.5J

I’ve got just over a tin of pellets through the rifle now and thought it would be time to see what the maccari spring and top hat would do power wise. The shot cycle of this rifle is unique to say the least. No jolting but I’m glad to have a scope with ample eye relief. The 8.4 JSB’ s average at 970fps and the 10.3’s at 880 . Not as powerful as some of the numbers I’ve seen posted on this rifle but then again I wasn’t chasing power to start with.

What I have found is that the leade is loose on this particular rifle. Which seems to be a regular occurrence with the Diana line of rifles. I’ve got several sizes of JSB pellets from .451 to .453 and none fit tightly when pushed into the barrel with a finger. I did try some Baracuda hunter extremes and they did fit a bit better but weren’t quite as accurate when pushed out past 30 yards.

Not sure if I’ll be keeping this one. I’m going to out it head to head with the R9 and see if it can keep up. To be fair the R9 is presently tuned at 13 fpe and shooting the 8.4’s from the right tin will put ten pellets under a dime at 40 yards .
I would love to have a 54 @ 7.5 J

Robert Lane closing shop for indefinate period

thank you very much for all your help and advise (better than a gun smith) lol I'm going to order a regulator tester buddy and like you said it is worth it even if it is a one time use 👍 right you said that you did a 2 maybe 2 in a half turn we've tryed that but can try again, we thought maybe if it was undun and put back together!! but I said it say's not to do that! you know what women are like once they've got an idea in there head 🙄😂😂 I'll send you a few pics of my regulator with plenum. it's never been used at all. thank you 🤝

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hi I've spoken to huma-air and they've told me that the only thing that need's to be turned is the bar (which bar you want it set at) and nothing else need's to be touched not even the screw that we are on about 🤔 how that works i really don't know, so I've got back to them and said it need's to be turned but how many time's? I'm still waiting on a response from them but if you were to look at mine with the plenum what would you say? need some help because my rifle has been tucked away for a bit now 😫 😂😂 I'd appreciate any sort of advice you can give me if possible thank you for your time 🤝

I’m On AMission

I kill 2-3 squirrels a day. That’s over, now. When I caught one with my garden tomato in its mouth that was it. I’m on a vendetta. Yesterday, I sat on my porch for several hours and killed over 20. Today, eight. Don’t mess with papa’s tomatoes. I’m a squirrel serial killer. I feel no remorse.
I am right their with you only here the squirrels eat around 1/2 pound of birdseed a day. I get 1 to 4 a day , the Fox and Bobcats eat well .
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What are your thoughts on lead exposure?

I think if One gives the benefit of the doubt that sometimes some things we are fed by Powers That Be might be based in Reality, it might not be a good idea to eat lead pellets.

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i have watched a number of ol time shooters put pellets in their mouths before loading... seems as a kid i might have done this also?

What are your thoughts on lead exposure?

I got this from a toxicologist:

Much of the information out there about lead poisoning is nothing more than alarmist science. I work in a toxicology lab and am always amazed at the bad rap that lead gets. Let's look at a few things:

- The lead in lead paint is in the form of organic lead and lead salts, NOT METALLIC LEAD. Both organic lead and lead salts are easily absorbed if you eat something contaminated with it or put your fingers in your mouth after handling something contaminated with it.

- Lead poisoning of waterfowl after eating the metallic lead. This is actually true and why I think so many folks are so scared of metallic lead. But there is a big difference between waterfowl and humans. Waterfowl have gizzards. The lead shot that the bird eats gets trapped in the gizard and very slowly erodes, is converted into bioavailable lead salts thanks to digestive acids, and is absorbed into the circulation. This can only occur because the lead shot gets stuck in the gizzard and is continuously ground releasing microscopic lead particles into the digestive tract.

Humans do not have a gizzard and thus a lead pellet and other metallic lead will pass thru quickly and no harm will come of it.

- But I know PB enthusiasts that have suffered lead poisoning from handling lead bullets. No you don't. The biggest problem that PB enthusiasts have with lead is from the propellant. When the propellant burns it gives off vapors of lead salts (again, not metallic lead). These lead salts are dangerous and why you should not routinely shoot a PB indoors, except in a very well ventilated range.

- What about lead dust? What if you inhale lead dust?

Have you ever seen lead dust? I bet you really haven't. It is still lead and no matter how fine a dust particle it is ground in to, it is still many, many, many, many, many times heavier than air and immediately falls to the floor. Now I'm sure that you could devise a way to inhale lead dust, but it would need to be intentionally done.

- What about that black stuff I get on my fingers after handling CPL and CPH pellets. That stuff is not lead (IIRC it is actually graphite) and even if it was lead your body has no easy way of absorbing metallic lead.

- Lead vapors, what about lead vapors? I heard they are extremely toxic. And if we are melting lead to cast our own pellets, or bullets, or fishing sinkers, then we will die.

No you won't, unless you have a really, really hot smelting furnace. Lead melts at 328 Celsius (622 F) but doesn't vaporize until around 1,700 Celsius (3,092 F). Now should you actually reach the vaporization temperature, you will have a problem.

I could go on, but will stop at this point.
I was told that a lawn care worker at a very old established range did "in fact" develop lead poisoning from cutting the grass on the ranges with no protective gear except maybe hearing protection. But this is second hand info. Cph pellets have Antimony in them.

I’m On AMission

I kill 2-3 squirrels a day. That’s over, now. When I caught one with my garden tomato in its mouth that was it. I’m on a vendetta. Yesterday, I sat on my porch for several hours and killed over 20. Today, eight. Don’t mess with papa’s tomatoes. I’m a squirrel serial killer. I feel no remorse.
I wasn't aware that squirrels ate tomato? Maybe a styrofoam owl

Akela .22 Ranch Rat Rifle

I like that idea. I'll check it out. Thanks!

BTW I didn't explain, I went to the bullpup design because walking through the barn at night, it's not uncommon to look around a piece of equipment and be eyeball-to-eyeball with a rat. A powerful air pistol would be great for the walking shots light that in tight spaces, but we didn't want to buy yet another air gun. So we went with the compact bullpup design. It's worked well for both the aimed long shots, and those fast walk-ups.

What's the advantage of shortening the hammer spring? A lighter trigger? I've been impressed with the trigger already on there and haven't thought of making a change. Is that it ... to get a lighter trigger?

About airgun ranges and shooting facilities

I wanted to share some thoughts about dedicated airgun ranges and shooting facilities. For many of us, having a proper place to practice, test ballistics, and simply enjoy shooting in comfortable conditions is just as important as the equipment itself.

A good airgun range should accommodate the unique needs of our sport. This includes appropriate distances for different calibers, options for both rested and offhand shooting, clear target marking for zeroing, and safe areas for testing high-powered models.

Unfortunately, not every city has facilities designed specifically for airguns. But if you're lucky enough to have access to a professional airgun range, it's a great opportunity to hone your skills.

One notable example worth checking out is the Gritr Range, which offers excellent conditions for airgun shooting.

Where does everyone else practice? I'd love to hear recommendations for good airgun ranges in different areas.

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