Air Arms Utah Airguns Pyramyd FX Airguns Daystate Brocock Airmaks Airguns Diana Airgun Depot Edgun West Palm Beach Airguns SA DonnyFL
Saber Tactical Optisan Side-Shot Scope Cam NE Airguns Baker Airguns AGS Topgun Airguns Predator International The Pellet Shop Huben Airguns Huma-Air Shooting Supplies Hurricane Luftvapen AEA Precision Airguns H&N Impulse Air ZAN Projectiles Hawke Optics Kraford and Lypt Airforce Protect Your Nuts Stud Mag Loader RX Target Systems Sports Match Scope Mount Specialists Altaros Slugs Banner CTA Thomas Air Performance Air Rifles Hatsan USA Georgia Air Guns SPAW Minor Skout Airguns RAW - Rapid Air Works Nielsen Specialty Ammo Patch Worm Weihrauch Sport Talon Tunes Airgun-Revisions JTS PARD Thor Molds

Hello from Tx/Tn

I took about a 6 year break from pcp airguns but now I'm back to learn more. Great forums yall have here. I came from gatewaytoairguns, the yellow forum, marauderairrifles etc.
Sold my house in the burbs in Texas and I'm looking for property in E Tn so maybe I'll see some of you around : ).

Currently shooting:
- Marauder .25 with a lot of valve work and SSG. 3 mags from 2900 fill @ 865fps ES 40 sd 19. Doped to dial out to 100y
- Waiting on shipment for Uragan 2 from Tony in .25 cal. Will be a hunting set up ~910 fps
- Kid's diana stormrider in .177
---- I regret selling my Taipan Mutant in .22 after losing interest in airguns

Brocock/BRK  My Bad Ass Brotherhood of BRKs…💥💥💥💥

They all get along nicely and are nicely compact and comparable in footprint to each other. Any of these four could comfortably serve as my primary for what I do with my airguns. I feel comfortable taking small pests, in good conditions with my Atomics out to 40-55 yards. The Pathfinder stretches that to 60-70+ yards. And the Ghost is capable to 100+ yards. I consistently hit, small rodent head size targets, out to 64 yards with my Atomics and plink with them and the Pathfinder out to 102 yards regularly. I get enough consistent hits on my 102 yard targets to simply confirm the awesomeness… The Ghost is the newest sweet addition to the brood. She is the Queen and the Pathfinder may be a little threatened but the sweet Atomics are undaunted. The Atomics are simply a joy to handle and shoot, nicely light and deceivingly deadly on small pests. The Atomic with the UTG red dot is light enough for small kids to handle and punish cans with…

Atomic XR #1 Arken Zulus 3-12x
Atomic XR #2 UTG-op3-micro-sls-red-dot.
Pathfinder XR: Aztec Emerald 6-24x-50 IR SF FFP.
Ghost XR Carbine: G1 Athlon Helos 6-24x-50 IR SF FFP.

Did I mention I love my BRKs and feel extremely fortunate to own such a quad of sweet PCPs… 🙏

IMG_1512.jpeg


IMG_1508.jpeg


IMG_1514.jpeg


IMG_1515.jpeg


IMG_1510.jpeg


IMG_1503.jpeg

Brocock/BRK  Brocock and FX

Posting in case this anecdotal feedback helps someone make a decision.

We are users of PCP air rifles (and we have a springer!) for pest control, as a business. We have quite an assortment -- Edgun, FX, Brocock, KalibrGun, and Weihrauch (the springer). I enjoy shooting these rifles on Sundays and have shot very many pellets and slugs through all of them.

After lots of testing, tied for first are (drum roll): Our Brocock Sniper XR, and the FX Crown Continuum. The only negatives on both of these is, the need to treat them with kid gloves, as they seem to be precision instruments, like watches. We are kind to our tools and transport all of them cased, but these two rifles seem exceptionally well-built, but delicate.

In second place is our monster Kalibrgun Argus 45 in .30 cal. We use this for larger animals.

My first air rifle was a Daisy BB gun. I wish I had known how capable air guns are, earlier in life. I can do as much with these PCPs as I can with my .22s.

Cheers

What Red Dot scope is your favorite and why.

Hello everyone,

OK the title to this thread is pretty much self explanatory. Please only tell me what Red Dot Scope that you have owned and used and what points makes it stand out. I would also like to know what rifle or pistol you used the Scope with. If you happen to have a really close “second favorite” I would appreciate knowing about that one also.

Fellows, please don’t tell me about a Scope that you have not personally owned and used.

Thank you in advance,
ThomasT

N/A  Why would it shoot two groups?

My rifle used to shoot one hole groups at 25 meter and good groups at longer distances up to 100 meter. Now that was with a certain batch of pellets that is finished I don't get the same anymore. It still shoot one hole groups at 25 meter but it is split in two groups. It would shoot a few pellets through one hole, then the next few shots about 8mm higher and then back to the first hole again. The chronograph show the SD is about 5 -7 and ES about 18, but the high or low shots does not correlate to the speed.

It is a M22 in 5.5mm.
I checked and everything is tight. I tried another scope as well but it still do the same.

Does anybody has experience with such a problem? What would cause it?

PCP Rifle  WTB Getting Back Into The Hobby!

Hi All!

Have been working abroad the past couple years and am back in the states and VERY much looking to get back into the hobby!

I donated my collection to a Veterans shooting group I supported before I left so starting from scratch so a lot of holes to fill!

Starting with air rifles so hoping to be able to source the following:

FX Crown 600-700mm .22 or .30
FX Impact MK2 or M3 .22 or .30 (700mm)
FX Boss
Daystate Electronic Guns (Red Wolf, Alpha Wolf, Delta Wolf or older models) .22 or .25
AGT Uragan/Vulcan .22 or .30
RTI Prophet (1,2 or3) .22
RAW open to caliber and would LOVE an Alan Z. tuned/shrouded model but not a deal breaker.
Kalibr Cricket Tactical .30
Original Kalibr Cricket .25
Edgun R5M .25 or Super Long .30


Also LOVE one off or custom airguns so don’t hesitate to reach out with others that maybe worth a look!

Just a quick note, I only pay via PayPal and please don’t take offense if I am a bit more hesitant etc. if you have no or low feedback!

Thanks all and very much looking forward to reconnecting with the AGN community!

Be Safe,
Dr. Mike Long

Huben  First impressions of Huben GK1 .25 Shorty

I got my GK1 .25 Shorty from Kelly at Kraz Cool today! We had communications on possible variations, and he was so patient working with me - thank you Kelly for getting me exactly what I wanted!

Here is shot data as I got it- no tuning - just out of the box. 33 pretty flat shots from 31 Bar to 11 Bar with one empty shot in the middle (thus losing some air)

[Update, pellet was JSB Exact King Diablo 25.39 grain]

Shot #SPEED (FPS)Δ AVG (FPS)KE (FT-LB)
1​
685.1​
10.7​
26.5​
2​
678.1​
3.7​
25.9​
3​
676.5​
2.1​
25.8​
4​
671.9​
-2.5​
25.5​
5​
669.4​
-4.9​
25.3​
6​
669.9​
-4.5​
25.3​
7​
663.8​
-10.6​
24.8​
8​
664.5​
-9.9​
24.9​
9​
665.1​
-9.3​
24.9​
10​
663.9​
-10.4​
24.9​
11​
663.2​
-11.2​
24.8​
12​
663.8​
-10.6​
24.8​
13​
662.2​
-12.2​
24.7​
14​
662.9​
-11.5​
24.8​
15​
661.6​
-12.8​
24.7​
16​
667.8​
-6.6​
25.1​
17​
665.6​
-8.8​
25​
18​
665.6​
-8.8​
25​
19​
667.4​
-7​
25.1​
20​
668.9​
-5.5​
25.2​
21​
674.9​
0.5​
25.7​
22​
676.3​
1.9​
25.8​
23​
676.7​
2.3​
25.8​
24​
682.8​
8.4​
26.3​
25​
695.5​
21.1​
27.3​
26​
703.6​
29.2​
27.9​
27​
702.3​
27.9​
27.8​
28​
697.9​
23.5​
27.5​
29​
692​
17.6​
27​
30​
685.8​
11.4​
26.5​
31​
676​
1.7​
25.8​
32​
672.7​
-1.6​
25.5​
33​
661​
-13.4​
24.6​


Here is what it looks like compared to my full-size GK1 .25. It was 2 inches shorter and it handled great.

Stock 20240601_003731957_iOS.jpg
Base 20240601_004015627_iOS.jpg

FX  FX POI Shift : SOLVED ?

FX Maverick Compact 30 cal
Regs 160/145
Power Wheel 6

The attached pictures were 859 fps AEA 45 gr pellets @ 40 yds, 5 shot groups. When I speak of POI shift, I'm not talking about shots being randomly scattered. I'm speaking about these groups as a whole shifting randomly and needing to rezero for this (see pics). In my case, my gun came shooting 840 fps and every once in awhile I would need to adjust the scope a couple of clicks and it was good for awhile. To be honest, I thought it was the cheap scope I had. Once I got a chrono, I started adjusting reg pressures for faster fps. After increasing speeds I needed to rezero much more often, just about every day. I replaced the scope, same issues. Then I started looking into this further and discovered other people were having the same problem. I pulled my barrel liner and it had 2 orings. I ordered additional orings from Utah Airguns and the cf sleeve. I put the cf sleeve on and lost my tight groups. I did not epoxy it, and it felt a little loose, not a tight play free fit. At that point I wasn't ready to glue my liner in, so I went back to the orings. I ended up using 10 orings evenly spaced with a double in the middle, using Teflon tape beside them to help keep them in place. Same result, good for a couple days and then off 1/2". I couldn't find a solution on the internet so I decided i needed to rethink this. Something has to be moving, but what.

Here's my theory I came up with. In a perfect world a perfectly straight barrel would be ideal. In this system the liner is between the jamb nut and the block. When tightening that jamb nut, if the distance between where the liner touches it and the block is less than the length of the liner by even a mm the liner has to arc. Under tension with an arc in it is force that could cause it to rotate slightly, or arc in the opposite direction. Either of these would change the poi. My jamb nut was fairly snug but not too tight. I loosened it to what I would describe as 1/4 snug. Finger tight then just barely tightened with a wrench.

It's only been a week now but it is shooting like a laser and I have had no need to rezero. I think the 10 orings is probably overkill, but i would use at least 3 or 4. I also think the cf liner may work if epoxied. I hope this helps someone, i know i spent countless hours trying to figure it out.

Full disclosure, I am not a certified technician, just a hillbilly striving for perfection.

20240516_143054.jpg


20240517_120301.jpg

Buying from a new member

Anyway I guess I have WTB listing in the classified section and then one of the members on here contacted me telling they have what I am looking for. So any we proceeding in contacting each other and so forth and he gave me his price and I agreed but when it came to the form of payment I wanted to use PayPal goods and services cause I am not willing to just send money to a complete stranger than has next to no history on here and hasn't been on airgun nation for even a month. The seller refused using all sorts of excuses which just raised red flags so in the end I just said if it's not through PayPal goods and services I have no interest and I haven't been contacted again since. Did I do it wrong or overreacted? Just curious on how you people deal with purchasing from a somewhat new member with almost no background so that your covered if you're scammed.

self chrono check during the match?

I was reading the WFTF and AAFTA rules regarding chronograph use. It states that you need to chrono your rifle during training/sight-in day and daily chrono during the match.

What happens if you suspect a gun failure during the match and you want to chrono your rifle but you are nowhere near the official chrono station?

For example You have missed the last 4 (easy) targets. Are you allowed to use your own chrono when it's your turn to shoot? and does that count as part of your total time on that lane?

I know some of the PCP have built in chrono. and it would be as easy as looking at the LCD screen to get your velocity. But what happens if you are shooting a springer?

Filling an outdated carbon fiber/aluminum SCBA bottle

At the risk of subjecting myself to some scolding for even considering such a thing, I have a 18 year old AIr Hog 68 cu ft bottle that I am reticent to throw out just because it is outdated. The carbon fiber on the outside is pristine, no dents or cuts. Endoscopic examination of the bottle's aluminum interior shows shiny aluminum with no corrosion or pits. Obviously, I have no idea if there is galvanic corrosion at the interface between the inner aluminum bottle and the carbon fiber wrap. The SCUBA or "safety store" will not even look at it because it is out of date. They would be happy to sell me a new replacement.

Would you use it and enjoy it or toss it and replace it?

Mike

Other  Moderators and Accuracy?

I don't have any PCP moderators, really don't need them where I live, and my Taipan Veteran Compact, I feel is quiet enough (though even quieter may help for my hunting). I am curious as to whether adding a moderator on your PCP's has resulted in an increase in accuracy, or Not?

I've got three different suppressors for my .22 rimfire rifles. I've shot them with and without, there is no consistent clear advantage/disadvantage accuracy wise. Some guns/loads may shoot a barely measurable bit better or worse, no one gun or suppressor makes a significant improvement. Overall I would say they tend to shoot a little better suppressed... and I assume this is probably due to the weight of the suppressor affecting the barrel harmonics. Just to be clear there is a definite change in point of impact due to the suppressor weight (mine run 5, 8 & 9 ounces)... a larger change in POI on lighter barrels (of course).

But I wonder about PCP's... Since we're talking about a blast of air coming out the barrel, a much lighter projectile, and it seems the pellet skirt may be more susceptible to any air turbulence than a solid base.

So, those that have added a moderator on their PCP's, have you had a noticeable increase in accuracy? Or Not

Thanks,

Jerry
  • Like
Reactions: Echo

FX  Panthera ,? Has anyone had this issue?

I have panthera. 700 with 600mm barrel. At 150bar my fps drop Like hammer is not opening the valve. I have 26 gram hammer,and blue tuning spring. I tried 20gram hammer with oem spring,and tried 13 gram hammer. At 150 bar my gun shoots 60gr atp slugs 888,but if I try to go up on reg it slows down. Spring tension maxed. Why will my valve not open past 150 bar? Done exact same with all weights and springs ,past 150 for some reason fps drop like 100fps,but as tank pressures decrease the fps raise up 5 to 7 fps a shot, any ideas or if you know why please let me know. The slugs um shooting seem to shoot better faster. The 49.5 gr atp slugs cut a hole at 100 yards at 974 fps. Also my first shot seem slow most time after sitting a while.

Filter