Your Thoughts On The New TalonP Carbine .25

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TalonP Carbine .25 With Butt Stock and Moderator
MSRP: $749.95
Availability:: In stock soon. Order now to get in line. First come first served.
SKU: U2081

Features:

.25 Caliber Lothar Walther Barrel
Lightweight
Recoiless
Pressure Relief Device
Adjustable Power
Available in Original Black Finish

Technical Specifications:

Velocity: 500-900 feet per second (Depending pellet weight, and power setting)
Power Adjustment: User-adjustable
Maximum Fill Pressure: 3000 psi
Action: Single shot
Weight: 4.3 lbs.
Length: User Adjustable 27.75-32.25 inches
Barrel: 12 inches
Trigger: 2-stage adjustable for position
Sights: Open or optical sights may be installed
Air Tank Volume: 213cc
Safety: Automatic on cocking
Energy: Up to 50 foot pounds*
* Depending on caliber, pellet weight, and power setting
* Shown with optional accessories, scope not included.
 
Interesting, but they desperately need to come up with something new and improved. At some point you have to stop re-hashing the same product over and over.The Airforce Airguns look like they are still stuck in 1999. Seriously add a magazine fed system, regulator, better looking grip and trigger, formed rubber butt pad, lower picatinny rail location. Lets get this brand to resemble a gun made closer to the year 2020. Not that 2020 has been a good year, but you know what I mean... 
 
Interesting, but they desperately need to come up with something new and improved. At some point you have to stop re-hashing the same product over and over.The Airforce Airguns look like they are still stuck in 1999. Seriously add a magazine fed system, regulator, better looking grip and trigger, formed rubber butt pad, lower picatinny rail location. Lets get this brand to resemble a gun made closer to the year 2020. Not that 2020 has been a good year, but you know what I mean...


Couldn’t agree more!!! As much as I want to support American businesses they need to wake up and compete with the world!


 
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I love mine
 
Snooze. So they added a butt stock, a shrouded LDC and called it a new gun. More like changing the color on the lipstick on a pig.

Agreed. Their marketing is just stupid. Just sell the old one, but call it what it is. I love Airforce rifles, but they are definitely silly stupid simple, and not for everyone. If they want to move up in the world, they should do some new things other than making a single shot go bam faster (CF tanks and so on). Unregulated? Dumb
 
It's the same gun. This is just a package deal where they are selling it with accessories. If you don't want to deal with finding your own adapter and moderator and sight and stock.


and as I have said before the talon p is fantastic. The styling causes me no issues... don't really care if it's rocking the airforce styling. It can be tuned from 15-55 fpe with very little effort Shoots everything I put through it pretty well - not pellet picky at all



mine is plenty quiet with the smaller top hats (have to buy those) pretty loud with stock wide open one. HOWEVER a small oil filter quiets it way down to the point where the impact on the trap is the loudest noise. 
 
It's the same gun. This is just a package deal where they are selling it with accessories. If you don't want to deal with finding your own adapter and moderator and sight and stock.


and as I have said before the talon p is fantastic. The styling causes me no issues... don't really care if it's rocking the airforce styling. It can be tuned from 15-55 fpe with very little effort Shoots everything I put through it pretty well - not pellet picky at all



mine is plenty quiet with the smaller top hats (have to buy those) pretty loud with stock wide open one. HOWEVER a small oil filter quiets it way down to the point where the impact on the trap is the loudest noise.

Yeah my Talonp with a Sumo is very quiet 
 
I guess to each his own. I wanted the carbine, but the in-stock date kept getting pushed back. So, ordered a TalonP from elsewhere and got the stock, DonnyFL adapter and Sumo. Arrived two weeks ago. With the Sumo it is quiet. Have only shot it a couple of times to sight in the scope. Will work with it some more on what pellets it likes and what power setting. It is a nice, compact, adjustable, powerful package.

Not all that enthralled with the look of the AirForce guns, but they are relatively simple. To me the pros outweigh the cons. Add a regulator, magazine and other "improvements" and the gun gets more complicated with the price going up accordingly. I would like to see a Picatinny rail top and bottom. But, I suspect that throwing away their run of extrusions and getting a new mold made would jack the price up enough that they would lose buyers.
 
It's funny because people hate on the consistency of the Air Force style but look at the style of other traditional guns that haven't changed in decades also. I mean, every wood stocked break barrel with open sights looks the same now as they did 50 years ago. So why does airforce get singled out for committing to a design? 


Also, for me, the simplicity is what makes it amazing. No crazy air paths, no chintzy plastic magazines, no little pieces to fall out, no complicated cocking/loading mechanism. It's kind of funny because i was thinking about the warranty... but on a stock gun there's really nothing to break that you can't fix yourself.



Anyway I think would be a shame if they abandon their style. Would hate to see them just become another unnecessarily complex contraption and I don't think a new design would necessarily be better, just different. I guess some folks are getting guns for the novelty, others for the functionality
 
MrP.........many thanks for making some very eyeopening observations on the AF design.

This does say it all:

Also, for me, the simplicity is what makes it amazing. No crazy air paths, no chintzy plastic magazines, no little pieces to fall out, no complicated cocking/loading mechanism. It's kind of funny because i was thinking about the warranty… but on a stock gun there's really nothing to break that you can't fix yourself.