I’m new here and wanting to get into PCP airguns. I’ve been shooting since I was 6 in Texas and now live in CA where there aren’t many places to shoot or hunt. I’d like your thoughts on the most accurate and also quiet air gun to use in my backyard as I enjoy target shooting and keeping my skills sharp for my hunting trips back to Texas. Thanks in advance.
Your thoughts; Most accurate and quiet pcp on the market?
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Daystate Red Wolf with DonnyFL moderator.. I have to add my TM1000 in .177 cal and my Cricket .177 as well. You just hear the action at work but nothing else.
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The most accurate isn't likely to be the quietest. A big factor in the loudness of a rifle is how hard the hammer strikes the valve and the amount of air it pushes out the barrel. Lower powered rifles are more quiet than higher powered ones. Higher powered rifles tend to be more accurate.
A good moderator will quiet about any PCP down enough to suit your needs. Since you are backyard shooting, my advice is to buy a .177 or .22 caliber rifle. You'll learn a lot and probably end up trying several. Don't be afraid to buy a used one from the forum here. There are lots of great deals and you can save some serious coin. A high dollar gun is not needed for great accuracy at backyard distances.
A good moderator will quiet about any PCP down enough to suit your needs. Since you are backyard shooting, my advice is to buy a .177 or .22 caliber rifle. You'll learn a lot and probably end up trying several. Don't be afraid to buy a used one from the forum here. There are lots of great deals and you can save some serious coin. A high dollar gun is not needed for great accuracy at backyard distances.
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Any of the high end airguns will be more accurate than the people shooting them.
I prefer FX, I have both the Crown, and Impact and love them both.
If I had the money I would add a Daystate Redwolf because it's so darn beautiful, and shoots well too.
Also, recently I have become a convert to the practice of spending as much as you can on a scope. I have gone thru many scopes, but once I got one that had ED glass my accuracy increased exponentially, and I'll never buy cheap scopes again.
I prefer FX, I have both the Crown, and Impact and love them both.
If I had the money I would add a Daystate Redwolf because it's so darn beautiful, and shoots well too.
Also, recently I have become a convert to the practice of spending as much as you can on a scope. I have gone thru many scopes, but once I got one that had ED glass my accuracy increased exponentially, and I'll never buy cheap scopes again.
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.25 Kalibrgun Cricket with Charlie Freer tune. In practicing tonight for tomorrows Benchrest Silhouette match, five consecutive five-shot groups at 100 yards with 33.95 JSB's at 915 FPS averaged 1.23" center-to-center in very windy conditions. The best group measured .86".
My Cricket has also shot the best group I've ever gotten with an airgun in over 30 years of serious testing of over 400 airguns of all kinds. The five-shot group at 60 yards measured .15" c-t-c (less than 1/4 minute-of-angle). The group is the top half of the 8, the aiming spot is the bottom half.
My Cricket has also shot the best group I've ever gotten with an airgun in over 30 years of serious testing of over 400 airguns of all kinds. The five-shot group at 60 yards measured .15" c-t-c (less than 1/4 minute-of-angle). The group is the top half of the 8, the aiming spot is the bottom half.
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I wish i had half the money some guys have; I'd burn all of mine.... 
But I' digress...
For backyard shooting, a Marauder. I shoot in my backyard (about an acre) and my neighbors have no idea what i'm doing. The smack of the pellet in my bucket of rubber mulch pellet trap is louder than the firing cycle of the gun and most of that only you will hear because your head is on the combe of the gun.
As for accuracy, unless your backyard is a 100 yards deep, you will get bored with one ragged hole targets.
But I' digress...
For backyard shooting, a Marauder. I shoot in my backyard (about an acre) and my neighbors have no idea what i'm doing. The smack of the pellet in my bucket of rubber mulch pellet trap is louder than the firing cycle of the gun and most of that only you will hear because your head is on the combe of the gun.
As for accuracy, unless your backyard is a 100 yards deep, you will get bored with one ragged hole targets.
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How big is your back yard? That is the question!
Here's why. If your back yard is 30 yards, then we (airgun community) can suggest a load of airguns, both PCP and springers, that will be pellet on pellet at that distance and be quiet as well. If your back yard is 50 to 100 yards, well then things get interesting and narrowed down a lot.
When you say quiet, how close is your closest neighbor? 10 yards away? 30 yards? Most PCP's we suggest can be hushed down to near whispers with the right moderator attached.
I can recommend you a handful of PCP's that might fit your bill but depending on your back yard distance, most may be boringly accurate to the point you just won't shoot it much.
BUT, if you truly want to keep your shooting skills up, may I suggest a quality springer? PCP's tend to be so accurate that a lot of us, myself included, become sloppy with shooting mechanics including trigger control, follow through, cheek weld, etc. A quality springer will keep you honest and require of you the utmost of concentration to give you the best accuracy.
I have plenty of recommendations for you but first you gotta let us know what you'll be using it for and distances. Also, what is your budget?
Here's why. If your back yard is 30 yards, then we (airgun community) can suggest a load of airguns, both PCP and springers, that will be pellet on pellet at that distance and be quiet as well. If your back yard is 50 to 100 yards, well then things get interesting and narrowed down a lot.
When you say quiet, how close is your closest neighbor? 10 yards away? 30 yards? Most PCP's we suggest can be hushed down to near whispers with the right moderator attached.
I can recommend you a handful of PCP's that might fit your bill but depending on your back yard distance, most may be boringly accurate to the point you just won't shoot it much.
BUT, if you truly want to keep your shooting skills up, may I suggest a quality springer? PCP's tend to be so accurate that a lot of us, myself included, become sloppy with shooting mechanics including trigger control, follow through, cheek weld, etc. A quality springer will keep you honest and require of you the utmost of concentration to give you the best accuracy.
I have plenty of recommendations for you but first you gotta let us know what you'll be using it for and distances. Also, what is your budget?
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What range do you want to be accurate at? Like NoLandBeyond said, that's important. I've got a Marauder that is incredibly quiet and can stack pellets at 50 yards. I disagree about being sloppy with a PCP, but other than that . . . . . anyway, so many to choose from. Range and budget really control the choice.
Oh, and the new Fortitude is supposed to be accurate at under 75 yards, regulated and even quieter. Fortitude has a crappy trigger though, where the Marauder has an excellent adjustable two stage. and Yes, I am a trigger snob, I like a lighter, crisp trigger.
If you want to go the extreme other end, spend lots of money and get really bored with single ragged holes at 50 yards, FX Impact with a Donny FL. That'll run you $2300 or more without a scope. Marauder will run $500 or so and might include a scope, depending on where you get it. Don't forget the fill system, and some kind of tank. If using a pump, do take a look at the Fortitude, small cylinder, much easier to pump.
Oh, and the new Fortitude is supposed to be accurate at under 75 yards, regulated and even quieter. Fortitude has a crappy trigger though, where the Marauder has an excellent adjustable two stage. and Yes, I am a trigger snob, I like a lighter, crisp trigger.
If you want to go the extreme other end, spend lots of money and get really bored with single ragged holes at 50 yards, FX Impact with a Donny FL. That'll run you $2300 or more without a scope. Marauder will run $500 or so and might include a scope, depending on where you get it. Don't forget the fill system, and some kind of tank. If using a pump, do take a look at the Fortitude, small cylinder, much easier to pump.
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There are a lot of variables involved that are not mentioned. I have a Daystate Regal in .22 that is very accurate and back yard quiet. It comes with factory moderator, and costs a bit over $1K. It's light and handy for field use as well, uses a magazine. I have a Steyr that is deadly accurate, single shot. It is extremely loud with plain barrel, but I added a Steyr adapter and Hogan suppressor, which makes it as quiet as the Daystate. It is neither light nor handy for field use, and is considerably more expensive, but has one of the best triggers in the world, a great target rifle.
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If u want a good backyard rifle that is accurate and quiet
I would suggest a Benjamin Maximus hunter in .22 with a tko or rocker 1 ldc added on. ( Maximus hunter has threaded adapter already installed )
the rifle comes with a very usable scope and rings with a/o and mil dot reticle and u can get one delivered for around $165 if u do it right
Add a $45 ebay pump and $60-70 ldc and your shooting small holes to 40 yds for under $300
with either ldc the gun is so quiet the pellet impact is louder than the rifle going off
mine is boring accurate at 25 yds and the neighbors have no idea I'm shooting it
plus with the 2000 psi resivoir it's very hand pump friendly
Great backyard setup and my go to rig for exactly that
pcpfan37
I would suggest a Benjamin Maximus hunter in .22 with a tko or rocker 1 ldc added on. ( Maximus hunter has threaded adapter already installed )
the rifle comes with a very usable scope and rings with a/o and mil dot reticle and u can get one delivered for around $165 if u do it right
Add a $45 ebay pump and $60-70 ldc and your shooting small holes to 40 yds for under $300
with either ldc the gun is so quiet the pellet impact is louder than the rifle going off
mine is boring accurate at 25 yds and the neighbors have no idea I'm shooting it
plus with the 2000 psi resivoir it's very hand pump friendly
Great backyard setup and my go to rig for exactly that
pcpfan37
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A lot of great info here so far. Thanks for sharing. Backyard set up can go between 25-50 yards. Quality and options are more important than budget.
On the lower end, I hear a lot of great things about the Marauder. On the upper end, I hear great things about the Daystate Regal. From what I can gather, the Daystate is ready to go out of the box where the Marauder May need some upgrades and modifications.
On the lower end, I hear a lot of great things about the Marauder. On the upper end, I hear great things about the Daystate Regal. From what I can gather, the Daystate is ready to go out of the box where the Marauder May need some upgrades and modifications.
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Are you planning on punching paper, hunting, or both?
I have a Daystate Huntsman Regal XL (non-regulated) in 0.22 caliber and it's heirloom quality and good to go right out of the box (just clean the barrel). Fairly quiet with included reflex moderator from Daystate, although there are quieter PCP's out there. It'll shoot 1/2" groups at 50 yards and can shoot several pellets well (JSB, H&N, and Polymags). It'll also get roughly 40 shots per mag with great consistency with its Harper Slingshot system. At 30 ft lbs, it'll also have plenty of power for most small game hunting within 50 yards. Great choice for $1100.
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I highly recommend the Air Arms S510 carbine. Beautiful guns, easy to maintain, parts are easy to find if anything does break down. They are accurate and power adjustable. I prefer it to the Daystate. Check out the review I made of the rifle here:
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/my-opinion-of-my-fathers-air-arms-s510-side-lever-carbine-fac/
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/my-opinion-of-my-fathers-air-arms-s510-side-lever-carbine-fac/
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The 2 quietest air rifles I've shot was mymy Edg R5 long and Daystate wolverine R with huggett belita attached to it.
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177 Marauder Field and Target with Lothar Walther barrel with a DonnyFL EMPEROR...
Well, at least a RONIN.
OOPS sorry you mentioned you live in CA, where airgun LDCs are no-nos?
Forget the DonnyFL which will make it DEAD SILENT, just the Field and Target 177 Marauder with LW barrel.
CA
Well, at least a RONIN.
OOPS sorry you mentioned you live in CA, where airgun LDCs are no-nos?
Forget the DonnyFL which will make it DEAD SILENT, just the Field and Target 177 Marauder with LW barrel.
CA
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"On the market" so new, and new?
Or, used really can be the way to go. In your shooting situation a .177 is plenty tho a .22 might be fine.
This would the the quietest airgun I've personally fired
Theoben MFR ( could have been in any stock including a pistol ) with an AZ shroud.
At distance I'm sure there are the same but to the shooter as quite as an FWB603, or just think of the quietest hammer strike you could still hear. Anything Allen does/did would be the #1 choice. He could well polish a marauder (doent know if he does those) into a golden rifle. He does sometimes supply top end rifles new with his work added.
Anything custom fitted should be better than factory, not always the case but should be as individual tolerances can be more closely matched that way.
Or grab any already quite & add the Donnyfl or such.
Where are your closest local airgun folks? Getting with others will give you the best ideas and is well worth a bit of effort.
John
Or, used really can be the way to go. In your shooting situation a .177 is plenty tho a .22 might be fine.
This would the the quietest airgun I've personally fired
Theoben MFR ( could have been in any stock including a pistol ) with an AZ shroud.
At distance I'm sure there are the same but to the shooter as quite as an FWB603, or just think of the quietest hammer strike you could still hear. Anything Allen does/did would be the #1 choice. He could well polish a marauder (doent know if he does those) into a golden rifle. He does sometimes supply top end rifles new with his work added.
Anything custom fitted should be better than factory, not always the case but should be as individual tolerances can be more closely matched that way.
Or grab any already quite & add the Donnyfl or such.
Where are your closest local airgun folks? Getting with others will give you the best ideas and is well worth a bit of effort.
John
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Off the top of my head I would recommend the FX Streamline in .22 caliber. Accurate, great trigger, quality build and extra quiet with one of the DonnyFL moderators. Being the stock is a traditional style as oppose to a bull-pup or other ones it is easy to shoot off bags or a front rest. It also has a power wheel that you can adjust it for different pellet velocities. It gets around 50 to 60 shots on the high power setting and more as you lower the power. Bill
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Don't forget the pump or other means to fill the PCP. That will add some more to the overall cost. If you have a budget, it would be easier to narrow down your options.
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I’ve shot quite a few airguns this past month (raw 30, brocock bantam sniper hp 22, redwolf 22, daystate regal 22, marauder 22) and so far nothing beats my fx streamline in 22, makes 30 ft lbs and is just STUPID quiet with a donny fl on it.
I just got my 25 cricket back from charlie frear today and although the muzzle report is quiet the sound coming from the hammer is sharp. Even though it is backyard friendly it doesn’t even touch my streamline in pure silence.
I just got my 25 cricket back from charlie frear today and although the muzzle report is quiet the sound coming from the hammer is sharp. Even though it is backyard friendly it doesn’t even touch my streamline in pure silence.
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Tapian Mutants are very quiet guns in .22/ generally guns producing around 30 fpe or lower are able to be tamed to much lower decibel levels. Shooting out to 50 yards gives you many options that may work well.
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