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Yong Heng leak – how can I fix?

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July 13, 2021 at 2:22 pm Link

Saltlake58
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So, I just had to replace a Dowdy washer on one of the three pipes on the front of the compressor. It was the vertical pipe. I've always had trouble getting this one to seal and stop the air leaks. This time, I just can't get it to seal.

Any suggestions on getting that vertical pipe to seal? I've had it on and off at least a dozen times. Tried wiggling it in, tighter than I've ever done it before (but that raises the risk of stripping the aluminum blocks). I buy a new pipe for about $25 and I don't mind spending the $$, but it's the time. 3 to 4 weeks shipping.

The compressor is nearly 3 years old, with light use due to so many problems.

Any suggestions on getting the vertical pipe to properly seal so I can hit pressure?

Thanks in advance

So, I just had to replace a Dowdy washer on one of the three pipes on the front of the compressor. It was the vertical pipe. I've always had trouble getting this one to seal and stop the air leaks. This time, I just can't get it to seal.

Any suggestions on getting that vertical pipe to seal? I've had it on and off at least a dozen times. Tried wiggling it in, tighter than I've ever done it before (but that raises the risk of stripping the aluminum blocks). I buy a new pipe for about $25 and I don't mind spending the $$, but it's the time. 3 to 4 weeks shipping.

The compressor is nearly 3 years old, with light use due to so many problems.

Any suggestions on getting the vertical pipe to properly seal so I can hit pressure?

Thanks in advance

July 13, 2021 at 2:39 pm Link

rc4fun
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Are you sure it's the Dowdy seal and not the seal (furrel) on the tube itself? Sometimes it can be difficult to tell.

July 13, 2021 at 2:55 pm Link

Hynzie
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u say you have 3 lines there can u swap the line with each other may not work but it will eliminate some of the guess work pat

July 13, 2021 at 3:29 pm Link
biohazardman
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I had the same problem once I went through a couple of Dowty seals, as they are very poorly made, and another time it ended up being the ferrule to pipe connection like rc4fun said. I invested in a set of pipes for just about $20. The new pipe with new ferrules cured the leak. They do some pretty rough werq on the pipes and fittings on these things. I was going to send you the line off of my spare compressor but fergot I messed it up taking it apart some months back.
- This reply was modified 10 months ago by biohazardman.
- This reply was modified 10 months ago by biohazardman.
- This reply was modified 10 months ago by biohazardman.
I had the same problem once I went through a couple of Dowty seals, as they are very poorly made, and another time it ended up being the ferrule to pipe connection like rc4fun said. I invested in a set of pipes for just about $20. The new pipe with new ferrules cured the leak. They do some pretty rough werq on the pipes and fittings on these things. I was going to send you the line off of my spare compressor but fergot I messed it up taking it apart some months back.
July 13, 2021 at 3:30 pm Link
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Hynzie

u say you have 3 lines there can u swap the line with each other may not work but it will eliminate some of the guess work pat

Three lines and all different.
- This reply was modified 10 months ago by biohazardman.
- This reply was modified 10 months ago by biohazardman.
Hynzie

u say you have 3 lines there can u swap the line with each other may not work but it will eliminate some of the guess work pat

Three lines and all different.
July 13, 2021 at 4:56 pm Link
Saltlake58
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It's not the dowdy seal, that's replaced and confirmed sealed. It's the pipe itself with the strange little permanently installed funnel shaped gasket.

Just not sure where to go from here. I've considered roughing up the surface as it looks incredibly smooth and might need fresh material to seal.

any thoughts welcome.

Oh, and I bought a 20 pack of high quality dowdy seals, not the Yong Heng crap. The replacement seals work like a charm.
- This reply was modified 10 months ago by Saltlake58.
It's not the dowdy seal, that's replaced and confirmed sealed. It's the pipe itself with the strange little permanently installed funnel shaped gasket.

Just not sure where to go from here. I've considered roughing up the surface as it looks incredibly smooth and might need fresh material to seal.

any thoughts welcome.

Oh, and I bought a 20 pack of high quality dowdy seals, not the Yong Heng crap. The replacement seals work like a charm.
July 13, 2021 at 5:52 pm Link
biohazardman
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I think you may need the whole tube with ferrules as the tube often deforms, gets a ring pressed into it on one side or another, from the ferrules being pressed into it so hard. Once that happens the next ferrule is likely not to seal. The tube you need is under $13 shipped.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000807691142.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4b6779d6c86KEd&algo_pvid=062fee00-d432-4d68-b852-0f373bc4385e&algo_exp_id=062fee00-d432-4d68-b852-0f373bc4385e-14
- This reply was modified 10 months ago by biohazardman.
I think you may need the whole tube with ferrules as the tube often deforms, gets a ring pressed into it on one side or another, from the ferrules being pressed into it so hard. Once that happens the next ferrule is likely not to seal. The tube you need is under $13 shipped.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000807691142.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4b6779d6c86KEd&algo_pvid=062fee00-d432-4d68-b852-0f373bc4385e&algo_exp_id=062fee00-d432-4d68-b852-0f373bc4385e-14
July 13, 2021 at 7:30 pm Link

Gerry52
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Get a new tube & ferrule. If the ferrule itself was incorrectly crimped it could have compromised the OD of the tubing too & not allow a new ferrule to seat properly.

July 13, 2021 at 8:11 pm Link

Saltlake58
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I'm going to try one thing tonight. The ferrule only goes half way into the fitting before it makes contact. I'll sand it a bit and attempt to reseal. It's either that or replace it, so nothing to lose. Got a feeling I'll need a whole new tube though. I just wish I could get it faster. . . . .

Thanks all for the help.

July 13, 2021 at 8:26 pm Link
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I ran into the same problem when replacing my Dowty Washer. I was able to get it to seal by loosening both ends and giggling the pipe to make sure the alignment was as straight as possible. If properly aligned the nuts should be able to be screwed back up with the fingers before being firmly snugged tight with spanners. It took me a couple of attempts but it did eventually seal without having to buy a new pipe. PS. Don't sand anything unless there is a bur of some kind. If your pipe is not bottomed out before tightening the nut it will never seal.
- This reply was modified 10 months ago by Eaglebeak.
I ran into the same problem when replacing my Dowty Washer. I was able to get it to seal by loosening both ends and giggling the pipe to make sure the alignment was as straight as possible. If properly aligned the nuts should be able to be screwed back up with the fingers before being firmly snugged tight with spanners. It took me a couple of attempts but it did eventually seal without having to buy a new pipe. PS. Don't sand anything unless there is a bur of some kind. If your pipe is not bottomed out before tightening the nut it will never seal.
July 13, 2021 at 9:21 pm Link

Saltlake58
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OK, I just spent 30 minutes sanding the ferrules with 500 and 1000 grit sand paper. Reinstalled and tightened with two apposing wrenches and really tightened them down. I think I have success for today. Probably last time these tubes will ever work, so I'll consider this a temporary fix and order new tubes.

Thank you for the help and link to the tubes. I'll get them ordered in preparation for the next repair (it's just a matter of time)

OK, I just spent 30 minutes sanding the ferrules with 500 and 1000 grit sand paper. Reinstalled and tightened with two apposing wrenches and really tightened them down. I think I have success for today. Probably last time these tubes will ever work, so I'll consider this a temporary fix and order new tubes.

Thank you for the help and link to the tubes. I'll get them ordered in preparation for the next repair (it's just a matter of time)

July 13, 2021 at 9:52 pm Link

Saltlake58
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Eaglebeak

I ran into the same problem when replacing my Dowty Washer. I was able to get it to seal by loosening both ends and giggling the pipe to make sure the alignment was as straight as possible. If properly aligned the nuts should be able to be screwed back up with the fingers before being firmly snugged tight with spanners. It took me a couple of attempts but it did eventually seal without having to buy a new pipe. PS. Don't sand anything unless there is a bur of some kind. If your pipe is not bottomed out before tightening the nut it will never seal.

As for sanding, I started with 500 grit and moved up to 1000. I have 2000 grit if I need it, but this seemed to work. I did jiggle, cajole, encourage, and eventually resort to brute force. Both nuts did align before hand tightening. Finished off with the wrenches. so far, it's holding.

This compressor was great till the piston broke, since then, it's one repair after another.   Couple more repairs like this and it'll be a new compressor using this one for donor parts for the new compressor repairs. Maybe next time I won't get a lemon.

Thanks again all for the feedback

Eaglebeak

I ran into the same problem when replacing my Dowty Washer. I was able to get it to seal by loosening both ends and giggling the pipe to make sure the alignment was as straight as possible. If properly aligned the nuts should be able to be screwed back up with the fingers before being firmly snugged tight with spanners. It took me a couple of attempts but it did eventually seal without having to buy a new pipe. PS. Don't sand anything unless there is a bur of some kind. If your pipe is not bottomed out before tightening the nut it will never seal.

As for sanding, I started with 500 grit and moved up to 1000. I have 2000 grit if I need it, but this seemed to work. I did jiggle, cajole, encourage, and eventually resort to brute force. Both nuts did align before hand tightening. Finished off with the wrenches. so far, it's holding.

This compressor was great till the piston broke, since then, it's one repair after another.   Couple more repairs like this and it'll be a new compressor using this one for donor parts for the new compressor repairs. Maybe next time I won't get a lemon.

Thanks again all for the feedback

July 14, 2021 at 1:16 am Link

Hynzie
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thanks BIOMAN ,,,good for you in fixxing it pat

July 14, 2021 at 1:56 am Link

Hubertus
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if you are about to order the spare pipes, just give it a last try with some loctite 🙂 Like nr. 263

https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/en/product/threadlockers/loctite_263.html

July 14, 2021 at 8:10 am Link

Saltlake58
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Hubertus

if you are about to order the spare pipes, just give it a last try with some loctite 🙂 Like nr. 263

https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/en/product/threadlockers/loctite_263.html

Hadn't thought about Loctite. For right now, it all seems to be holding (till it doesn't). I have Loctite here, so, when it cuts loose again, I'll give it a try.

I did order new tubes. At $22 shipped, that may solve a major headache for me. All I want to do is shoot, not continually try to repair this thing. Then again, if I replace all the parts, eventually this thing will be completely rebuilt with relatively new parts and I'll have a new compressor the hard way!

Hubertus

if you are about to order the spare pipes, just give it a last try with some loctite :) Like nr. 263

https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/en/product/threadlockers/loctite_263.html

Hadn't thought about Loctite. For right now, it all seems to be holding (till it doesn't). I have Loctite here, so, when it cuts loose again, I'll give it a try.

I did order new tubes. At $22 shipped, that may solve a major headache for me. All I want to do is shoot, not continually try to repair this thing. Then again, if I replace all the parts, eventually this thing will be completely rebuilt with relatively new parts and I'll have a new compressor the hard way!
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