Yet another "what scope should I get?" thread - $400-1000 range

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dryflyelk

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I have a new .25 impact and i'm tying myself in knots trying to decide what glass to put on it. I've read most of the threads on here for the past several months and that may have made it worse.



I've heard a lot here recently (thanks for your reports!) of the FFP sidewinder. On that note, i've seen some things around that make me believe that Hawke wouldn't be the way to go. I'm value conscious, but if i'm getting a lot more for the $, i'll spend more. I'm trying to find the point of diminishing returns. I've even gone as far as strongly considering the Sig Tango6 on dvor.com right now for the $1200ish range, but i just don't know much about the sig optics, and i wonder if that's way overkill.



I plan to use the gun to hunt mostly, with a little bit of target stuff. I know this question is a subjective one, but i'd love to hear everyone's opinions on what they would put on their gun in that price range. 



Thanks, gents!
 
I have the Athlon Argos 6 - 24 FFP on my Royale and Crown and have been vey happy with them. I have the Talos 4 - 14 on a couple of rifles and they've been good too. I prefer the higher mag though. Typically about $350 and $250 respectively. I have an Aztek 5 - 25 SFP on my Tsar and love the reticle and mechanicals have been solid but the glass on mine is not quite as good as my Argos's. You might check out some of the other discussions on this forum. 

Bob
 
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I'll totally agree that reading all the different opinions and information makes it tougher to narrow down the right one. I almost have the "must haves" all assembled for my new impact also so I got anxious and just went with the sidewinder because of the great price. The reticle thickness worries me but the value seems tough to beat at the dvor price. Athlon helos was the scope I was leaning towards but they both seemed like placeholders for something nicer. Id like to have my eye on a Nightforce after my research but that seems like an awfully large investment after all the other gear "needed". 
 
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I have 2 inpacts one is a inpact x 30 cal the Argos scope is very heavy i took it off it makes any gun to heavy unless you're going to be shooting from a bench I love the Aztec Emerald 5 x 5 x 25 x 50 it's amazing and very light to it's a $400 scope I shoot 100+ yards with it. The only other scope I have good luck with and it's really nice to look at is the mtc viper pro it also is amazing it's more money though like $600+ but no matter what scope you get make sure you get no limits rings lime fx or infinity scope rings hope this helps . John
 
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Heh hehe. You can get a really nice used/new sig sauer ffp scope that retails for 3.3k for 1.5 nowadays :). 5-30x56mm and 34mm jumbo tube. 30x in case you need to zoom into their souls. I will be doing a review on mine soon. It has Anticant and auto shutoff from detecting your movement. No idea why they are so cheap. I think it is because the fact that their name doesn't hold up as well as some of the other brands so the highly competitive firearm market forces individuals to sell for much cheaper prices.

I've personally found hawke scopes to be very clear but the turrets (sidewinder 6-24) extremely mushy and imprecise. I have not used the pricier Hawkes but really depends on your budget.



Here is my older sig from back in the day. I did a review on that.

https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/sig-sauer-tango6-3-18x44-scope-review/



And here is one I've been eyeing.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F232836438448
 
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Take a look at the Athlon Midas BTR 4.5-27 SFP. Great scope with ED glass, incredible reticle, no questions asked lifetime warranty, it doesn't parralex to 10 yards on max magnification but is perfectly usable at lower mags at short range, also it doesn't have a zero stop, you said mainly hunting, and if your range is 25 yards and out then this scope is a real contender as the picture quality is just breathtaking...



I used one on a friends.25 Impact with adjustable mounts and bought one the very next day... I have owned various Hawke, Optisan, Falcon and SWFA scopes, the only one I still have is the SidewinderED.



If you are going to pony up for high dollar glass try and get ED lenses on whatever brand it happens to be, you will instantly become a scope snob!
 
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I can definitely recommend a Vortex Viper PST Gen2 FFP or a Nightforce F1 SHV. A real step up in glass, turrets, and reticles. Both pushing the $1000 mark if rings/mounts are added.
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Hey Quoddy,

Do you own both the Vortex and Nightforce? If so, what's the closest distance you've used them at? I've been looking at both, and I've read bits here and there about the Vortex being usable at distances closer than its minimum parallax adjustment of 20 yards. I occasionally take hunting shots at 10-15 yards and while I'd love to upgrade to some nice glass, I'd like to be sure I still have a rifle/optic I can use for those close shots when they come up.
 
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I can definitely recommend a Vortex Viper PST Gen2 FFP or a Nightforce F1 SHV. A real step up in glass, turrets, and reticles. Both pushing the $1000 mark if rings/mounts are added.
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Hey Quoddy,

Do you own both the Vortex and Nightforce? If so, what's the closest distance you've used them at? I've been looking at both, and I've read bits here and there about the Vortex being usable at distances closer than its minimum parallax adjustment of 20 yards. I occasionally take hunting shots at 10-15 yards and while I'd love to upgrade to some nice glass, I'd like to be sure I still have a rifle/optic I can use for those close shots when they come up.
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I owned, and just sold the Vortex Viper PST FFP 3-15x44 to help defray the cost of a new Nightforce ATACR 4-16x42 F1. The Vortex is a great scope and was a world above the Hawke 30 Sidewinder I had before it. At lower magnifications it was fine below 20 yards, but I seldom shoot at shorter ranges. I, briefly, used the Nightforce SHV 4-14x50 F1 and found the sight pattern and glass to be fantastic, the turrets being almost on a par with the Vortex. I didn't shoot it below the 25 yard minimum parallax, but I see no reason why, at lower magnifications, it wouldn't be fine.
 
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For airguns up to 125 yards, I have (and recommend) the Vortex Razor HD LH 3-15x42 scope with HSR-4 reticle. Focus down to 20 yards. Very light weight (16.5 oz.), great reticle, good turrets that can be zero'd, super clear and great contrast. Lists for $1,100, but can get a very good discount if military, ex-military, police, firefighter or first responder. Can easily be used inside of 20 yards at the lower magnifications.
 
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For airguns up to 125 yards, I have (and recommend) the Vortex Razor HD LH 3-15x42 scope with HSR-4 reticle. Focus down to 20 yards. Very light weight (16.5 oz.), great reticle, good turrets that can be zero'd, super clear and great contrast. Lists for $1,100, but can get a very good discount if military, ex-military, police, firefighter or first responder. Can easily be used inside of 20 yards at the lower magnifications.
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Centercut that Razor looks like a great scope. I flat out love the weight but looking at the specs I can’t tell if it’s first or second focal plane and it doesn’t appear to have a side parallex adjustment. Can you clear that up for me. Thanks. 
 
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For airguns up to 125 yards, I have (and recommend) the Vortex Razor HD LH 3-15x42 scope with HSR-4 reticle. Focus down to 20 yards. Very light weight (16.5 oz.), great reticle, good turrets that can be zero'd, super clear and great contrast. Lists for $1,100, but can get a very good discount if military, ex-military, police, firefighter or first responder. Can easily be used inside of 20 yards at the lower magnifications.
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Centercut that Razor looks like a great scope. I flat out love the weight but looking at the specs I can’t tell if it’s first or second focal plane and it doesn’t appear to have a side parallex adjustment. Can you clear that up for me. Thanks.
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Second focal plane.
 
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