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Yet another guy new to PCP looking for help

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March 4, 2017 at 8:27 am Link

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Re: Gauntlet…

More accuracy than what I was expecting. Quality/price shows in other areas, like paint already flaking off of trigger guard. Wonder how it will hold up medium to long term… Price puts it at almost “disposable” once something major goes wrong, like the BIC lighter of PCP airguns. Regardless, so far it looks like a decent entry level regulated PCP for people who are very price sensitive.

Re: Gauntlet... More accuracy than what I was expecting. Quality/price shows in other areas, like paint already flaking off of trigger guard. Wonder how it will hold up medium to long term... Price puts it at almost "disposable" once something major goes wrong, like the BIC lighter of PCP airguns. Regardless, so far it looks like a decent entry level regulated PCP for people who are very price sensitive.

March 4, 2017 at 8:44 am Link

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This is nothing more than an updated stock on a Multi-shot breech version of the QB79. I’ve had one for years and no issues.

March 7, 2017 at 1:41 pm Link

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I have a Webley stirrup pump with my Gamo Coyote .22. Its Awesome. It takes so many pumps before I’m back upto pressure. A full 232 bar should get you 100 pellet shots. If you want to get your rifle pressured quicker use a diving air tank. They range at different prices but after 5 years they need testing. This costs about £70 Its quite cheap to get your tank refilled too. The local gun shop should do this for you.

I have a Webley stirrup pump with my Gamo Coyote .22. Its Awesome. It takes so many pumps before I'm back upto pressure. A full 232 bar should get you 100 pellet shots. If you want to get your rifle pressured quicker use a diving air tank. They range at different prices but after 5 years they need testing. This costs about £70 Its quite cheap to get your tank refilled too. The local gun shop should do this for you.

March 7, 2017 at 2:59 pm Link
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md_kc: As you see, some folks reply without reading the whole thread. We see that it multiple pages and just hit reply rather than reading them all.

I too have a Marauder Pistol aka “P-Rod” on the way, so I’ll be interested in a sneak peek of how it is working out for you.

Pumping will not be a problem at all. Don’t let the initial pump-up fool you. You’ll only be shooting from about 2900 psi down to 1800 or 1900 psi, so pumping from 500 to 3000 is not representative. If you’re like me, you’ll actually relish the exercise from the pumping. You’re taller and heavier than me, so it’ll be easier for you too.

I think most P-Rod owners that are dedicated enough to join a forum usually do a couple basic mods:
- Drill out the transfer port to .110 or .125″ for just a smidge more power; bring it up to 15 FPE instead of 12.
- If you want it to be nice and quiet, add an additional moderator to the end of it.. That also will make the barrel appear longer, so it’ll look more like a carbine, instead of a long pistol with a stock.
In time, I might pimp up the stock to be something other than plastic. Maybe build or buy a custom wood one. Some folks cut/carve a piece of wood to fill the void in the skeletonized shoulder stock.

In the past, they had a reputation of being “pellet-picky”: it took lots of testing of different pellets to find the one it likes best. Not sure if that’s true any more. You and I will find out!
md_kc: As you see, some folks reply without reading the whole thread. We see that it multiple pages and just hit reply rather than reading them all. I too have a Marauder Pistol aka "P-Rod" on the way, so I'll be interested in a sneak peek of how it is working out for you. Pumping will not be a problem at all. Don't let the initial pump-up fool you. You'll only be shooting from about 2900 psi down to 1800 or 1900 psi, so pumping from 500 to 3000 is not representative. If you're like me, you'll actually relish the exercise from the pumping. You're taller and heavier than me, so it'll be easier for you too. I think most P-Rod owners that are dedicated enough to join a forum usually do a couple basic mods:
- Drill out the transfer port to .110 or .125" for just a smidge more power; bring it up to 15 FPE instead of 12.
- If you want it to be nice and quiet, add an additional moderator to the end of it.. That also will make the barrel appear longer, so it'll look more like a carbine, instead of a long pistol with a stock.
In time, I might pimp up the stock to be something other than plastic. Maybe build or buy a custom wood one. Some folks cut/carve a piece of wood to fill the void in the skeletonized shoulder stock. In the past, they had a reputation of being "pellet-picky": it took lots of testing of different pellets to find the one it likes best. Not sure if that's true any more. You and I will find out!
March 7, 2017 at 3:02 pm Link

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Oh, and don’t second-guess your purchase. With ANY gun, there are pros and cons, and if you dig deeply enough, you’ll find them.

The Marauder is more powerful and generally more accurate, but it’s heavier, longer, more expensive, and less portable/handy.

In case of trouble, Crosman has a good reputation for after-sale support, which a lot of the imports, even the high-end ones, can’t match.

March 7, 2017 at 5:26 pm Link

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Smaug said, “don’t second-guess your purchase.”

Absolutely! You bought the right gun for you at this time. I have a Marauder Rifle (Gen 2), so if I understand correctly, the pistol is basically the same gun, just in a smaller package. Very accurate from what I hear. I do like the trigger on Marauders as well. If you want to tinker, the gun has multiple adjustments to balance (though I’m too chicken to tinker, as it just works!)

Crosman guns tend to be basic but they are well designed and just work. What more can you ask for?

By the way, I have the carbine stock for my 1701P. Would definitely recommend spending $25 on eBay and getting the stock. It gives the ability to have a carbine or pistol. Makes a nice change of pace.

Smaug said, "don’t second-guess your purchase." Absolutely! You bought the right gun for you at this time. I have a Marauder Rifle (Gen 2), so if I understand correctly, the pistol is basically the same gun, just in a smaller package. Very accurate from what I hear. I do like the trigger on Marauders as well. If you want to tinker, the gun has multiple adjustments to balance (though I'm too chicken to tinker, as it just works!) Crosman guns tend to be basic but they are well designed and just work. What more can you ask for? By the way, I have the carbine stock for my 1701P. Would definitely recommend spending $25 on eBay and getting the stock. It gives the ability to have a carbine or pistol. Makes a nice change of pace.

March 7, 2017 at 8:31 pm Link

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Smaug & Saltlake58,
I will not be second guessing my decision to get the Prod. It is the best match for my “want” list. The Marauder is just too heavy for my taste. I am sure the Prod will be accurate enough for me given my 70 year old eyes. I got the stock so that should help some. I have a Crosman 1377 that I have been shooting in the backyard and it is good enough accuracy. I do not plan a lot of mods but a TKO moderator is in my plans since quieter is better. I also like the longer look it gives the barrel.

Do you have any suggestions of this to do besides cleaning the bore?

edit to add bit about mods.

Smaug & Saltlake58, I will not be second guessing my decision to get the Prod. It is the best match for my "want" list. The Marauder is just too heavy for my taste. I am sure the Prod will be accurate enough for me given my 70 year old eyes. I got the stock so that should help some. I have a Crosman 1377 that I have been shooting in the backyard and it is good enough accuracy. I do not plan a lot of mods but a TKO moderator is in my plans since quieter is better. :) I also like the longer look it gives the barrel. Do you have any suggestions of this to do besides cleaning the bore? edit to add bit about mods.

March 7, 2017 at 11:09 pm Link

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Initially, clean, and shoot it until it settles down, see what it does and move on from there!

I’m in the process of breaking in the 1701 purchased last week. Following the same basic procedure.

Others might have good ideas –

March 8, 2017 at 1:51 am Link

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“Deja”No really forget about the pump if you want to target shot. Really, i have one and i used it once. Maybe on a low psi/bar rifle it could work but i wouldnt recommend it.

Bottom line Do not waste money on a pump, just bite the bullet/pellet and get a tank and somewhere to fill it. Its a must for pcp shooting.

 I have to agree here.   I got a Daystate Regal XL + Hill Pump and after using that pump a few times I dropped a bunch more money on the 4500 psi tank.   Argg that pump was a pain in the rear.

Try to find a PCP that shoots wit 2000 psi that would be easier to pump. Mine is like 3200 psi.      Or get a good underlever gun

"Deja"No really forget about the pump if you want to target shot. Really, i have one and i used it once. Maybe on a low psi/bar rifle it could work but i wouldnt recommend it. Bottom line Do not waste money on a pump, just bite the bullet/pellet and get a tank and somewhere to fill it. Its a must for pcp shooting.
 I have to agree here.   I got a Daystate Regal XL + Hill Pump and after using that pump a few times I dropped a bunch more money on the 4500 psi tank.   Argg that pump was a pain in the rear.    Try to find a PCP that shoots wit 2000 psi that would be easier to pump. Mine is like 3200 psi.      Or get a good underlever gun

March 8, 2017 at 6:59 am Link

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I think the decision is already made. gun and pump already purchased. Considering that he may move to an area without any scuba or paintball shops, tanks might be incredibly difficult to fill and maintain.

The pump might be the only option, besides for someone in decent health and retired, it’ll be a good exercise program. More you shoot, better shape you’ll be in.

March 8, 2017 at 10:05 am Link

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“Saltlake58”I think the decision is already made. gun and pump already purchased. Considering that he may move to an area without any scuba or paintball shops, tanks might be incredibly difficult to fill and maintain.

The pump might be the only option, besides for someone in decent health and retired, it’ll be a good exercise program. More you shoot, better shape you’ll be in.

 Yea I just saw he bought a maurader pistol. Cool looking gun and lightweight.   I think the pump is fine if you are using the gun for hunting.   But if you go out to target shoot and blow through the 40 shots and need to pump it gets old fast.

"Saltlake58"I think the decision is already made. gun and pump already purchased. Considering that he may move to an area without any scuba or paintball shops, tanks might be incredibly difficult to fill and maintain. The pump might be the only option, besides for someone in decent health and retired, it'll be a good exercise program. More you shoot, better shape you'll be in.
 Yea I just saw he bought a maurader pistol. Cool looking gun and lightweight.   I think the pump is fine if you are using the gun for hunting.   But if you go out to target shoot and blow through the 40 shots and need to pump it gets old fast.

March 8, 2017 at 10:12 am Link

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One hint about the Marauder rifle. Placing the action in a BullPup Stock while fairly expensive transformed my gun into a well balanced (not front heavy, center of balance is just back of the hand grip so the downward force which was at the muzzle in an original stock is now countered by the shooters shoulder) and much more accurate offhand shooter. It now rivals my guns in accuracy costing 2 to 4 times as much.

Thurmond

One hint about the Marauder rifle. Placing the action in a BullPup Stock while fairly expensive transformed my gun into a well balanced (not front heavy, center of balance is just back of the hand grip so the downward force which was at the muzzle in an original stock is now countered by the shooters shoulder) and much more accurate offhand shooter. It now rivals my guns in accuracy costing 2 to 4 times as much. :) Thurmond

March 8, 2017 at 10:17 am Link

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T3PRanch –
Where did you get the stock for your Marauder. I’m interested.

March 10, 2017 at 12:07 am Link

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“T3PRanch”One hint about the Marauder rifle. Placing the action in a BullPup Stock while fairly expensive transformed my gun into a well balanced (not front heavy, center of balance is just back of the hand grip so the downward force which was at the muzzle in an original stock is now countered by the shooters shoulder) and much more accurate offhand shooter. It now rivals my guns in accuracy costing 2 to 4 times as much.

Thurmond

 Why in the world would anyone spend the money and time to build a custom Marauder bullpup, when they could just buy a out of the box Bullboss ????

I’d recommend the OP get the Bullboss instead.

"T3PRanch"One hint about the Marauder rifle. Placing the action in a BullPup Stock while fairly expensive transformed my gun into a well balanced (not front heavy, center of balance is just back of the hand grip so the downward force which was at the muzzle in an original stock is now countered by the shooters shoulder) and much more accurate offhand shooter. It now rivals my guns in accuracy costing 2 to 4 times as much. :) Thurmond
 Why in the world would anyone spend the money and time to build a custom Marauder bullpup, when they could just buy a out of the box Bullboss ???? I'd recommend the OP get the Bullboss instead.

March 10, 2017 at 12:44 am Link

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You could probably make your own stock from wood.   Not sure why people buy a gun then spend more on mods than they would if they just bought a gun with a nice stock from the get go.    But I can see saving some buck and getting a gun with a cheap hollow plastic stock then adding their own hand made wood. That would be pretty cheap. Just need a block of wood some basic tools and time.

March 10, 2017 at 6:55 am Link

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Time – is a luxury I don’t have. Someday I will, but that’s probably 10 years away. I have the tools, but right now they just sit idle. Maybe in a few years, but not now.
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