Yet another guy new to PCP looking for help

After making a good effort at wearing out the Internet based on all the good suggestions on this site, I think I am close to a decision [who knows, maybe that lottery ticket that I bought will be a big winner and I'll just buy one of everything that appeals to me, LOL]. 

It looks like the Marauder pistol is going to be my choice. I know it is not the "traditional" look that I like but it turns out that I can live with it. With the addition of an AR type stock, I actually like the look. Also, as many have pointed out, the Prod is great right out of the box and has lots of aftermarket support if something turns out to need improvement. From what I can tell it is pump-friendly too. If the pump turns out to be too big a hassle, at least I'll have a good backup when I step up to a tank.

The Brocock was a close second but the cons are too much [lack of a gauge, being quite noisy without a moderator, and the Concept s6 appears to be discontinued] to win out. There were other appealing choices too and made the decision making process hard.

So, thanks again, I know these kind of posts turn up all the time and I appreciate your patience & thoughtful suggestions.
 
"md_kc"After making a good effort at wearing out the Internet based on all the good suggestions on this site, I think I am close to a decision [who knows, maybe that lottery ticket that I bought will be a big winner and I'll just buy one of everything that appeals to me, LOL]. 

It looks like the Marauder pistol is going to be my choice. I know it is not the "traditional" look that I like but it turns out that I can live with it. With the addition of an AR type stock, I actually like the look. Also, as many have pointed out, the Prod is great right out of the box and has lots of aftermarket support if something turns out to need improvement. From what I can tell it is pump-friendly too. If the pump turns out to be too big a hassle, at least I'll have a good backup when I step up to a tank.

The Brocock was a close second but the cons are too much [lack of a gauge, being quite noisy without a moderator, and the Concept s6 appears to be discontinued] to win out. There were other appealing choices too and made the decision making process hard.

So, thanks again, I know these kind of posts turn up all the time and I appreciate your patience & thoughtful suggestions.

md_kc looks like you did you research and are making a good decision base on your requirements. I can appreciate you easing into the pcp world and getting your feet wet so to speak. As time goes on and depending on what direction you can take in you airgun shooting you take the next step. Let us know how things work out for you Bill
 
I just ordered my Marauder Pistol from Crosman. Nice discount with the Air Gun Nation code and free shipping on Friday! Now the waiting begins.

And an order to PA for scope, rings, pellets, & Hill pump. More waiting.

Today, in Maryland, the temperature hit the high 70s with beautiful fluffy clouds in the sky and a light breeze. A genuinely beautiful day. Now that I have ordered some new toys, Murphy is scheduling beau-coup nasty, cold, snowy Winter days for the rest of the season and well into April, just to spite me. LoL! I shall endeavor to persevere [quote from Outlaw Josey Wales].

Sigh, is it here yet?
 
The delivery truck has been to my house several times in the last few days bringing the new Prod, Hill pump, targets, pellets, scopes, mounts ... oh my! Due to work, I haven't been able to do much more than verify that everything was present and accounted for. With any luck, I will get a chance to start putting things together tomorrow. Before I do that I have a question:

Anything special I need to do to check out my first, new PCP?

I plan to clean the bore. 

The gauge shows about 500psi so it will be good introduction to using the Hill pump to get it up to the 2500-3000 psi range. That should tell me if there are any leaks and prove the pump works.

I have been kicking around the idea of picking up a chronograph but I have not made my mind up about getting one. I don't expect to do much in the modding, if any, so this may be a purchase that I don't need to make.
 
yes please do get a chrono. it will tell you a lot.
​and yes pump yr gun up slowly. and pause at the top and at the bottom of each stroke.
​when you do clean you gun.clean it up side down if possible.
​stops oil from getting in your guns transfur port hole.

and repeat you will need a chrono to enjoy yr gun to the fullest.. accuracy is what yr after
 
If you are looking to use a pump, and don't mind a single shot, try the Benjamin Maximus. It's only a 2000 PSI fill. The Marauder, and most other guns are a 3000 PSI fill, and I've used a pump on my Marauder. That last 500 PSI is a real bear. You get your work out and really makes shooting a chore. 

​The gun shoots well, but might need a moderator. The TK Moderators go for around $54 shipped. It's a good starter gun to get you going. Reviews are excellent so far.

​Maximus comes in .22. Retail is around $220, Pyramid Air sells for $200-ish. If you use the Crosman 25% off code AGNATION, it's $165 on Crosman's site and on Friday's shipping is free. 

​The pump retails for $190. so $45 off makes it $145.

So,
Moderator - $54
Pump $145
Maximus - $165
tin of pellets $10

​Now for sights - if you put a scope on it, use good glass. That'll probably cost more than the gun!

​Anyway, you can be shooting with open sights for under $400 with a nice backyard friendly gun that works well with a pump. Gotta warn ya, that last 500 PSI fill on the marauder is a real bear.

​So, your requirements are:
1) I expect to be using a pump so I am looking for something that works well with a pump -
Yes, 2000 PSI Maximus works well with a pump
2) I would prefer a lighter rather than heavier rifle or pistol [needs to be less than 10 lbs with scope and mounts – 70 year old eyes make a scope a requirement].
​ 5 pounds for the gun plus whatever scope you want
3) Strong preference for a rifle/pistol with traditional looks… bull pups do not appeal to me
​ Traditional style. Synthetic stock, but nice look.
4) Primarily a paper shooter but I won’t rule out the occasional squirrel or varmint
​ Works well for both
5) I would like to stay under $1000 for the package [gun, pump, scope, mounts – the further under the better without sacrificing quality too much]
About $375 plus the scope
6) Backyard friendly
​ Moderator makes it really back yard friendly
7) I’m OK with buying used
​ Haven't seen any on the used market yet, this one's new.
9) I prefer .22 caliber but .177 or maybe even .25 would work
​ Comes in .22, or .177, also comes in the tuned down European versions making them even quieter. 
10) I want a gun that is good right out of the box. I don’t have the skills or desire to do a lot of tinkering
You can tinker with these, but not needed other than sighting the scope.

​Downside to the Maximus - with the moderator it will be long. The bolt pull will be heavy as you are compressing a spring around 10 pounds, and the trigger is mediocre. About a 4 pound pull. Hey, it's a $165 gun, so you do compromise in places. But it is accurate and shoots the inexpensive ammunition well, Crosman Premier Domes at around $10 for 500

​Lastly, I do prefer a magazine, but the Maximus is strictly a single shot. No mag available.

​Do some research on your short list of guns and see what comes up. Good luck whatever you choose.


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Enjoy is Right! fun fun little gun out of the box.also great learning curve tuning project gun.Thousands of pages of info.stock tuning,hundreds of aftermarket parts to make it yours, mods,regulators,-end results,Mine new shot jsb 18.13 best ,I was so happy! never even shot paper closer than 30yrds stock. quarter groups 8-shots occasional WTF flyier. aftermarket barrel 150- regulator 100 ,shroud ext.50 and My results after plenty of playing -I'm always amazed at what its capable of @ 50 and even 70 yrds for its size weight,and especially for the money. You know that little piece of squirrel , the squirrel forgets to hide sometimes.,I love reminding him,you missed a spot