Will fx offer dual reg for mk1 and mk2 onwers?

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ImpactX

ImpactX

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When the maverick came out with the dual reg. Everyone fx impact owner was excited for the release of a dual reg for the impact and we knew it was gonna come one day. Then the day came and it was only offer for the newer m3 only. This is really disappointing for all impact owners. Many sold their mk2s just to get the m3. Other who are rich kept their mk2s and just bought a m3. I'm one of the poor folks who can not afford a new m3 but wanted that dual reg cause like many impact owner. Our guns will creep overnight enough that the fps of the first and 2nd shot will be lower than the rest. That means every time we go out hunting or shooting we must dry first about 2 times. I'm still hoping fx don't give up on the older impact owners and will offer a dual reg for the mk1 and mk2. Yes huna have a dual reg for the impact but have u seen that thing? Its freaking long and bulky. Ugly as hell lmao. Not gonna spend $200 on that crap.
 
You want dual regulators to improve your Impact, or just to have two regulators ? True question.
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Well the real reason is to take the stress from the reg is it not? Gun is fill to 250 bar, reg set to 100 bar. Thats 150 bars pushing on the reg. Now if first reg is set to 150 bar, 2nd reg set to 100 bar. Thats only 50 bar pushing on the reg. It helps improve consistency and reg creep. Also a bonus for able to use 300 bar fill which is gonna be a thing on the impact soon. If the mk1 and mk2 are good as it is, there wouldn't be a mk3. There is always improvements and having a dual reg is the biggest improvement on the m3. The quick tune wheel is not necessary, only useful out in the field so can be tune easily without tools. The big improvement on the m3 is the dual reg and thats imo is what sells.
 
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Two regs is the way to go for the reasons you mention. But I really don't see it happening for the earlier models as the trigger block has to undergo some major machining modifications to make the regulator fit and function as it is quite a bit larger in diameter than the original bottle adapter. 

The MK1 and MKll guns are fine as they are and shoot very well. Yes, the M3 is marginally better in several ways but that does not make the other models severely handicapped or anything. They still shoot as well as they ever did and that is very well indeed.


 
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I’m with er1c. On the problem of pressure creep, the dual regulator concept is a band-aid to a deficient regulator design. For years people have been pulling OEM regulators out of $1500 - $2000 Impacts and replacing them with HUMAs. A boutique operation demonstrably solved what FX could not (or did not, since I firmly believe they could have with all their resources if they had the will). Instead, they took half steps with the AMP regulator and subsequently twin regulators.

Even industrious individuals have solved it by making a brass piston to replace the dinky plastic one, and fitting it with an appropriate valve seat.

Having said that, the dual regulator concept does offer a key advantage, which is that it allows the low side regulator to have a large orifice for faster refresh. Then by feeding it from an upstream regulator, it sidesteps the problem of poor input regulation that would have otherwise resulted. Granted, I still have not seen confirmation that FX implemented it this way. I’m just going by their statement that the Maverick was designed for shooting slugs…something that consumes a lot of air and therefore takes longer to recover via a small orifice.
 
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They will and it comes with a free M3 Impact.

Truly there is not good reason for them to come out with a retro fit kit. It would only hurt their new gun sales and after all they are in the business of making and selling new guns.



There is an aftermarket solution if it is something you just have to have.

https://www.huma-air.com/FX-Impact-Dual-Stage-Tuning-Regulator




 
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I’m with er1c. On the problem of pressure creep, the dual regulator concept is a band-aid to a deficient regulator design. For years people have been pulling OEM regulators out of $1500 - $2000 Impacts and replacing them with HUMAs. A boutique operation demonstrably solved what FX could not (or did not, since I firmly believe they could have with all their resources if they had the will). Instead, they took half steps with the AMP regulator and subsequently twin regulators.
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While I agree FX regulators could be better but I have Huma in my other guns and they also creep. Depends on the gun the Huma is slightly better or slightly worse than my FX regulator but at the end of the day they are pretty much the same from my personal experience. Dual or tri regulators has been used on precision machines for many years and makes a lot of sense. The Maverick I had did exabit no detectable regulator creep even stored for days so I know the design works but that being said I'm not lining up for the new M3 because dry fire a shot or 2 isn't going to kill me. 
 
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Almost any regulator can be made to not creep by simply dressing the valve seat. It's even true of the $15 generic paintball regulators from Aliexpress. Though for longevity, they do need the soft plastic seal (generally nylon) upgraded to something like Delrin, PET-P, or PEEK. If a hobbyist like me can do it in his home shop, I cannot fathom why the premium brands struggle with it.
 
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I’m with er1c. On the problem of pressure creep, the dual regulator concept is a band-aid to a deficient regulator design. For years people have been pulling OEM regulators out of $1500 - $2000 Impacts and replacing them with HUMAs. A boutique operation demonstrably solved what FX could not (or did not, since I firmly believe they could have with all their resources if they had the will). Instead, they took half steps with the AMP regulator and subsequently twin regulators.

Even industrious individuals have solved it by making a brass piston to replace the dinky plastic one, and fitting it with an appropriate valve seat.

Having said that, the dual regulator concept does offer a key advantage, which is that it allows the low side regulator to have a large orifice for faster refresh. Then by feeding it from an upstream regulator, it sidesteps the problem of poor input regulation that would have otherwise resulted. Granted, I still have not seen confirmation that FX implemented it this way. I’m just going by their statement that the Maverick was designed for shooting slugs…something that consumes a lot of air and therefore takes longer to recover via a small orifice.
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It's almost certain they haven't - if you look back at one of the 68 Whiskey videos with the maverick he even mentions directly how it takes a long time to recover and how you need to give it time to 'breathe'.
 
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