Why shooting in shade is a wind force multiplier
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July 14, 2019 at 11:20 am Link
Sooo, I'm out at my 25 meter range with my FX Crown .25, a gun I am beyond familiar with. Absent very bad pellets, gale force winds, or immoderate alcohol consumption, it shoots virtually a 1 hole group consistently at that distance. Today wind is like 5 mph with frequent gusts up to maybe 8 or 9.
It's also very sunny, and hot.
I shot 6-16 shot mags, and I'm seeing through my scope that my pellets are not going where I intend. Both vertical, and horizontal shift. Not a whole lot, but much more than I'm used to in these conditions for sure.
Dont get me wrong, the groups arent completely out of whack, just not in line with this gun in this weather, and my current sobriety level.
I went to the target and confirmed what I saw in the scope. The first pic is that target, and the 2nd pic shows why the deviation, if you look closely and think about it.
I had put up the umbrella and the gusts…..1
- This topic was modified 5 months ago by PerkyVal.
Sooo, I'm out at my 25 meter range with my FX Crown .25, a gun I am beyond familiar with. Absent very bad pellets, gale force winds, or immoderate alcohol consumption, it shoots virtually a 1 hole group consistently at that distance. Today wind is like 5 mph with frequent gusts up to maybe 8 or 9.
It's also very sunny, and hot.
I shot 6-16 shot mags, and I'm seeing through my scope that my pellets are not going where I intend. Both vertical, and horizontal shift. Not a whole lot, but much more than I'm used to in these conditions for sure.
Dont get me wrong, the groups arent completely out of whack, just not in line with this gun in this weather, and my current sobriety level.
I went to the target and confirmed what I saw in the scope. The first pic is that target, and the 2nd pic shows why the deviation, if you look closely and think about it.
I had put up the umbrella and the gusts.....1
July 14, 2019 at 11:24 am LinkYes I see the problem there's no beer.
Yes I see the problem there's no beer.
July 14, 2019 at 11:39 am Link18.13
Yes I see the problem there's no beer.
That will be coming out soon!
18.13
Yes I see the problem there's no beer.
That will be coming out soon!
July 14, 2019 at 12:37 pm LinkSee why you are giving away that floor cleaning stuff. Don't need it with plywood. Anything that gets on it just adds character! Would have staggered the joints tho.
See why you are giving away that floor cleaning stuff. Don't need it with plywood. Anything that gets on it just adds character! Would have staggered the joints tho.
July 14, 2019 at 1:05 pm Linkshoot44
See why you are giving away that floor cleaning stuff. Don't need it with plywood. Anything that gets on it just adds character! Would have staggered the joints tho.
We just laid that over the old deck that wasnt treated, but painted. We've been waiting for the forcast of a few days with no freakin rain to paint the new plywood. At least we bought treated stuff this time so maybe it will last more than 2 years.
shoot44
See why you are giving away that floor cleaning stuff. Don't need it with plywood. Anything that gets on it just adds character! Would have staggered the joints tho.
We just laid that over the old deck that wasnt treated, but painted. We've been waiting for the forcast of a few days with no freakin rain to paint the new plywood. At least we bought treated stuff this time so maybe it will last more than 2 years.
July 14, 2019 at 1:33 pm LinkI think what you are dealing with is heat mirage, you mentioned the rain so I am assuming you have some pretty high humidity it can really mess with your sight
I think what you are dealing with is heat mirage, you mentioned the rain so I am assuming you have some pretty high humidity it can really mess with your sight
July 14, 2019 at 1:37 pm LinkI'll agree with Wilie on the mirage. Now imagine the shift at 100yd.
I'll agree with Wilie on the mirage. Now imagine the shift at 100yd.
July 14, 2019 at 1:50 pm LinkActually, the problem is the wind catching the umbrella I put up for shade. The pole moves the table I'm using in different ways.
Leaning on the table causes me not to notice the movement, but it's still happening
Actually, the problem is the wind catching the umbrella I put up for shade. The pole moves the table I'm using in different ways.
Leaning on the table causes me not to notice the movement, but it's still happening
July 14, 2019 at 2:28 pm Linkstill, not bad shooting…
still, not bad shooting...
July 14, 2019 at 2:56 pm LinkA good heavy ice chest full of iced down beer would solve all that
A good heavy ice chest full of iced down beer would solve all that
July 14, 2019 at 3:02 pm LinkGirl you always like to throw a sneaky out there I see what your talking about good point on what outside forces can do to your shooting platform LOL,
I would have thought the wind blowing the umbrella around would have had more effect on a light table like that.
Girl you always like to throw a sneaky out there I see what your talking about good point on what outside forces can do to your shooting platform LOL,
I would have thought the wind blowing the umbrella around would have had more effect on a light table like that.
July 14, 2019 at 3:07 pm LinkWillie14228
Girl you always like to throw a sneaky out there I see what your talking about good point on what outside forces can do to your shooting platform LOL,
I would have thought the wind blowing the umbrella around would have had more effect on a light table like that.
It does during high winds, but in light wind my weight steady it some. It's also a different table than I've used before. Same size and kind tho, the other one I was using rusted away
Willie14228
Girl you always like to throw a sneaky out there I see what your talking about good point on what outside forces can do to your shooting platform LOL,
I would have thought the wind blowing the umbrella around would have had more effect on a light table like that.
It does during high winds, but in light wind my weight steady it some. It's also a different table than I've used before. Same size and kind tho, the other one I was using rusted away
July 14, 2019 at 3:10 pm Link18.13,
Damn! Why didnt I think of that?
I think the conclusion would be that mass quantities of beer actually helps you increase accuracy.
As a Range Saftey Officer I was taught something else, but you cant argue with your rock solid logic!
- This reply was modified 5 months ago by PerkyVal.
18.13,
Damn! Why didnt I think of that?
I think the conclusion would be that mass quantities of beer actually helps you increase accuracy.
As a Range Saftey Officer I was taught something else, but you cant argue with your rock solid logic!
July 14, 2019 at 3:16 pm LinkI guess the point I was trying to make is that we spent a lot of time learning to read the wind, spend way too much money on bipods etc, and not pay as much attention to our shooting platform.
I should've tho. I bitched and bitched to the board at my range about the sad state of the shooting benches at the 50 yard range.
I guess the point I was trying to make is that we spent a lot of time learning to read the wind, spend way too much money on bipods etc, and not pay as much attention to our shooting platform.
I should've tho. I bitched and bitched to the board at my range about the sad state of the shooting benches at the 50 yard range.
July 14, 2019 at 3:25 pm LinkNow we all know you shouldn't consume guns and play with alcohol at the same time right
Now we all know you shouldn't consume guns and play with alcohol at the same time right
July 14, 2019 at 3:27 pm LinkNothing wrong with a couple of "liquid group tighteners". Just don't over do it and be very careful.
Jking
Nothing wrong with a couple of "liquid group tighteners". Just don't over do it and be very careful.
Jking
July 14, 2019 at 3:37 pm Link18.13
Now we all know you shouldn't consume guns and play with alcohol at the same time right
You should never ever play with alcohol!
That leads to dropping it, which is alcohol abuse, which leads to lameass programs that take time away from consuming guns…..wait…something makes no sense there
18.13
Now we all know you shouldn't consume guns and play with alcohol at the same time right
You should never ever play with alcohol!
That leads to dropping it, which is alcohol abuse, which leads to lameass programs that take time away from consuming guns.....wait...something makes no sense there
July 14, 2019 at 3:39 pm Linkjking
Nothing wrong with a couple of "liquid group tighteners". Just don't over do it and be very careful.
Jking
I agree, never ever target practice when you are face down in the mud.
jking
Nothing wrong with a couple of "liquid group tighteners". Just don't over do it and be very careful.
Jking
I agree, never ever target practice when you are face down in the mud.
July 14, 2019 at 5:53 pm LinkI've got the fix 😉
From the looks of the shadow,switch places with the tables. Move the larger umbrella table where the little table sits in the picture and vice versa. Then shoot from the little table that isn't affected by the wind on the umbrella? It should still be in the shade from the way the shade is showing as pictured?
Still, that's some mighty fine shooting!
Fuss
I've got the fix ;-)
From the looks of the shadow,switch places with the tables. Move the larger umbrella table where the little table sits in the picture and vice versa. Then shoot from the little table that isn't affected by the wind on the umbrella? It should still be in the shade from the way the shade is showing as pictured?
Still, that's some mighty fine shooting!
Fuss
July 14, 2019 at 6:05 pm LinkCampFussell
I've got the fix 😉
From the looks of the shadow,switch places with the tables. Move the larger umbrella table where the little table sits in the picture and vice versa. Then shoot from the little table that isn't affected by the wind on the umbrella? It should still be in the shade from the way the shade is showing as pictured?
Still, that's some mighty fine shooting!
Fuss
I would except that table is about to fall apart. I need to get a heavier table, like a wood picnic table, or better yet, an actual shooting bench
CampFussell
I've got the fix ;-)
From the looks of the shadow,switch places with the tables. Move the larger umbrella table where the little table sits in the picture and vice versa. Then shoot from the little table that isn't affected by the wind on the umbrella? It should still be in the shade from the way the shade is showing as pictured?
Still, that's some mighty fine shooting!
Fuss
I would except that table is about to fall apart. I need to get a heavier table, like a wood picnic table, or better yet, an actual shooting bench
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