Why isn't Redwolf more efficient?
- Thread starter Glem.Chally
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Thanks for the response, much appreciated. You can understand my confusion as posted numbers are kind of all over the place.
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45 FPE is smoking for a .22 with pellets. Is more power available? Yes but you really start to see diminishing returns.
also the reg is probably being cranked up quite a bit so there is less usable air before coming off reg.
also the reg is probably being cranked up quite a bit so there is less usable air before coming off reg.
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Yes, similar experience here. My most consistent ES is a RAW .22 HM1000 with Martin's standard regulator. My Red Wolf doesn't shoot with the same consistency, but the accuracy is comparable. Mine are both standard power rifles, and I don't generally shoot beyond 50 yards, so maybe at longer distances the slight consistency advantage would make a difference.
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Those are similar numbers for how Daystate advertised the shot count for my .22 Pulsar HP. They list it based on the high power setting which is only suitable for the 33gr beast pellet. If you turned it down to medium you’d get decent shot count for the 25gr but it really shined on low power with the 18gr JSB. I would get over 100 shots per fill on that setting.
Daystate would be good to list shot count at different power levels.
Daystate would be good to list shot count at different power levels.
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If I end up buying a .22cal HP in the next week or two I will do a shot string with the 25gr on high and the 18gr on low and post the results.
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I was going off the pba site saying it was 30/30/30 for high power in .22/.25/.30 but since seems much better than that.
And yeah, full gun till the reg cut off.
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These are 2 snips I took from a Daystate thread on this forum (if I remember right).
Thats more what i had expected, thanks!
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These are 2 snips I took from a Daystate thread on this forum (if I remember right).
Thats more what i had expected, thanks!
You're not thinking of going over to the dark side are you?
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These are 2 snips I took from a Daystate thread on this forum (if I remember right).
Thats more what i had expected, thanks!
You're not thinking of going over to the dark side are you?
Haha not yet, hopefully the delta wolf makes it up here. Definitely keeping my eye on it to see what it can do. Daystate make beautiful rifles no doubt.
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These are 2 snips I took from a Daystate thread on this forum (if I remember right).
Thats more what i had expected, thanks!
You're not thinking of going over to the dark side are you?
Haha not yet, hopefully the delta wolf makes it up here. Definitely keeping my eye on it to see what it can do. Daystate make beautiful rifles no doubt.
I'm hoping it makes it here also. I waffle back and forth on the pricethough. Maybe I'll wait a year and see what it's like before I take the plunge.
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I can only speak for the red wolf 22cal hp that I own @970 with the jsb 25gr on high power 70 shots and on medium @860 110 shots on low using the jsb 18gr @910fps 175 shots. The gun is truly an amazing accurate and the trigger is undesirable great. Hope that is informative.
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But there is no reg. I assume that, in programming, the electronics set the valve duration based on the power desired, which I guess has to vary as the available pressure declines. Maybe the longer duration uses a lot of air, but yields more consistency than a mechanically regulated rifle that is below the reg setting. I don't know, all speculation on my part and well beyond my understanding. It's black magic to me, but it sure shoots well.
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These are the shot strings I got with my Red Wolf 18fpe .177cal with JSB 10.34gr pellets. I realize it's not the .22cal HP but it might give someone some insight into how the electronics work.
High Power shot string. 10.34gr JSB, single shot tray. FX chronograph.
Shots 1-50 Start 230 bar, end 203 bar.
Average 896 High 902 Low 888 Spread 14.0 Std Dev 3.2
Shots 51-100 Start 203 bar, end 180 bar
Average 901 High 909 Low 888 Spread 21.0 Std Dev 3.9
Shots 101-150 Start 180 bar, end 158 bar
Average 901 High 909 Low 888 Spread 21.0 Std Dev 4.3
Shots 151-200 Start 158 bar, end 137bar **Low pressure warning came on at 142 bar - shot #188**
Average 896 High 902 Low 888 Spread 14.0 Std Dev 2.9
Low power.
Shots 1-50 start 227 bar, end 209 bar.
Avg 729fps, High 745fps, Low 707fps
Shots 51-100 start 209 bar, end 194 bar.
Avg 746fps, High 765fps, Low 726fps, Spread 39.0, Std Dev 8.8
Shots 101-150 start 194 bar, end 178 bar
Avg 771fps, High 782fps, Low 754fps, Spread 28.0, Std Dev 6.2
Shots 151-200 start 178 bar, end 164 bar
Avg 786fps, High 796fps, Low 768fps, Spread 28.0, Std Dev 5.7
Shots 201-250 start 164 bar, end 149 bar
Avg 788fps, High 800fps, Low 777fps, Spread 23.0, Std Dev 4.8
Shots 251-300 start 149bar, end 135 bar
Avg 784fps, High 793fps, Low 763fps, Spread 30.0, Std Dev 4.9
Shots 301-350 start 135 bar, end 121 bar
Avg 779fps, High 791fps, Low 768fps, Spread 26.0, Std Dev 4.8
Shots 351-400 start 121 bar, end 108 bar
Avg 773fps, High 779fps, Low 759fps, Spread 20.0, Std Dev 4.2
Shots 401-450 start 108 bar, end 94 bar
Avg 779fps, High 789fps, Low 768 fps, Spread 21.0 Std Dev 5.5
High Power shot string. 10.34gr JSB, single shot tray. FX chronograph.
Shots 1-50 Start 230 bar, end 203 bar.
Average 896 High 902 Low 888 Spread 14.0 Std Dev 3.2
Shots 51-100 Start 203 bar, end 180 bar
Average 901 High 909 Low 888 Spread 21.0 Std Dev 3.9
Shots 101-150 Start 180 bar, end 158 bar
Average 901 High 909 Low 888 Spread 21.0 Std Dev 4.3
Shots 151-200 Start 158 bar, end 137bar **Low pressure warning came on at 142 bar - shot #188**
Average 896 High 902 Low 888 Spread 14.0 Std Dev 2.9
Low power.
Shots 1-50 start 227 bar, end 209 bar.
Avg 729fps, High 745fps, Low 707fps
Shots 51-100 start 209 bar, end 194 bar.
Avg 746fps, High 765fps, Low 726fps, Spread 39.0, Std Dev 8.8
Shots 101-150 start 194 bar, end 178 bar
Avg 771fps, High 782fps, Low 754fps, Spread 28.0, Std Dev 6.2
Shots 151-200 start 178 bar, end 164 bar
Avg 786fps, High 796fps, Low 768fps, Spread 28.0, Std Dev 5.7
Shots 201-250 start 164 bar, end 149 bar
Avg 788fps, High 800fps, Low 777fps, Spread 23.0, Std Dev 4.8
Shots 251-300 start 149bar, end 135 bar
Avg 784fps, High 793fps, Low 763fps, Spread 30.0, Std Dev 4.9
Shots 301-350 start 135 bar, end 121 bar
Avg 779fps, High 791fps, Low 768fps, Spread 26.0, Std Dev 4.8
Shots 351-400 start 121 bar, end 108 bar
Avg 773fps, High 779fps, Low 759fps, Spread 20.0, Std Dev 4.2
Shots 401-450 start 108 bar, end 94 bar
Avg 779fps, High 789fps, Low 768 fps, Spread 21.0 Std Dev 5.5
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Corvid- The 177 RW I shoot seems to prefer the medium power setting with the JSB 10.34s. What kind of strings are you getting on medium power? YO!
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Do you have any idea what your settings look like>? Also, have you tested the string yet? Anytime I get my Redwolf shooting 970, it is a descending string from 250b down to 162b (low-pressure warning for HI power). And the ES ends up being about 30 fps. I have the hand held and would like to get a better shot string. It gets about 60 shots now, starting at 970 but is down to about 940 by 200b.
Crusher
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