You'd think with all the electronic wizardry and best of the best of everything it would have a higher shot count in high power.
Why is that?
Seems to be around 30 shots in .22/.25/.30
Why is that?
Seems to be around 30 shots in .22/.25/.30
Why isn't Redwolf more efficient?
- Thread starter Glem.Chally
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You're probably referring to 25 and 303? More so in 303 I think. Mine in 177 seems to be very efficient with tons of shots but it's the pea shooter of the bunch. I also have a 25 Rosso which I have personally never shot since I purchased it just as a collector so I can't comment on it. Who knows with all of this lockdown I may have the itch to give it a try. The 22 RW seems decent based on paper specs for the HP with 23 inch barrel but IMHO the 17 inch standard RW in 22 would be the limiting factor for efficiency which probably needs to waste air to push it on high power. YO!
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According to the daystate site its 30 shots for HP in .22/.25/.30
Not daystate site but shows numbers. https://palmbeachairguns.com/product/daystate-red-wolf/
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How does this compare to mechanically regulated rifles of similar caliber, power, barrel length, and air capacity? As I read the Daystate web site, it indicates 75 shots in .22 and .25 and 45 in .30.
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Daystate.com cant figure how to capture and copy and paste the specs off of Daystates website to go here. YO!
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Daystate seems a bit on the weak side with their 303s compared to other mfgs. but my Renegade 303 is enough for its intended use with up 20 shots with a trigger to die for. YO!
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Here goes I get more shots from my 177 Daystate Pulsar at 18fpe (110-120) than my Huma regulated Daystate Renegade at 18fpe (80-90). Over 30 shots difference if you want mechanical vs fully electronic Daystate of the same caliber with similar air capacity and the Renegade theoretically should have less air capacity than the Pulsar due to the Huma regulator taking up some space in the reservoir. YO!
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The mechanical Huma regulated Renegade has a tighter extreme spread than the fully electronic Pulsar but that doesn't seem to affect the accuracy when shot side by side. I think that's why Daystate is adding a Huma regulator to their new Delta Wolf for crony fanatics. YO!
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- .303 30 shots @ 80 ft/lbsPower
- .25 30 shots @ 65 ft/lbsPower
- .22 30 shots @65 ft/lbsPower
- .177 70 shots @ 30 ft/lbs
https://palmbeachairguns.com/product/daystate-red-wolf/
Just thought I'd copy-paste your reference Glem. You're right, those numbers are rather poor. At first I was with Yo, thinking it was a lack of barrel length, but that doesn't seem plausible either, as it is a 600mm barrel, the same as or longer than *most* FX Crowns. Longer also than most RAWs. My Crown .30 gets about 45 shots per fill at 80 FPE on a 600mm barrel, 30% better than the RW. My Crown .22 uses a 500mm barrel to manage over 100 shots at 30FPE, which is a little bit apples to oranges, but again is about 30% more than the .177 RW. RAWs, which share the same bottle and general architecture, are about a match for the Crowns. And both of those are regulated, giving you a cutoff of sorts which the "electronically regulated" (unregulated) daystate doesn't have.
I can't help but wonder if these numbers are just conservative? Or......
Given the popularity of the Redwolf on this forum, I'm certain someone with data will be along shortly.
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They are fully electronic - are they tuned for shot-to-shot repeat-ability or to be stingy on air?
They are probably not at the same and that's what the lower 2 settings are for.....
They are probably not at the same and that's what the lower 2 settings are for.....
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Hello Glem
Please be kind if I am off a few shots. I am deeply involved in testing and development of this rifle especially the work with the ART team in AZ. Fine people. Our testing is always in search for accuracy so we are not concerned with shot count as our number one objective however I can speak to this with some authority.
30 cal HP GC2.
High power. 85 ft lbs. 35 testing shots 250 bar fill
Med power. 73 ft lbs 45-50 testing shots 250 bar fill
low power. Not tested by myself estimate is 65 ft lbs 70 shots
22 Hp GC2
High Power. 63 ft lbs 30 testing shots 250 bar fill
Med power. 55 ft lbs 45-50 testing shots 250 bar fill
Low power. 45 ft lbs 100 plus testing shots at 250 bar fill
Rob
Please be kind if I am off a few shots. I am deeply involved in testing and development of this rifle especially the work with the ART team in AZ. Fine people. Our testing is always in search for accuracy so we are not concerned with shot count as our number one objective however I can speak to this with some authority.
30 cal HP GC2.
High power. 85 ft lbs. 35 testing shots 250 bar fill
Med power. 73 ft lbs 45-50 testing shots 250 bar fill
low power. Not tested by myself estimate is 65 ft lbs 70 shots
22 Hp GC2
High Power. 63 ft lbs 30 testing shots 250 bar fill
Med power. 55 ft lbs 45-50 testing shots 250 bar fill
Low power. 45 ft lbs 100 plus testing shots at 250 bar fill
Rob
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For reference here are the numbers on a .22 cal RW HP tested by AOA.
HIGH POWER
JSB Exact Beast 34gr - 60 shots avg 848fps 54.9 ft/lbs
MED POWER
JSB Exact Monsters 25.4gr - 115 shots avg 872fps 42.8 ft/lbs
LOW POWER
JSB Exact Heavy 18.1gr - 210 shots avg 890fps 31.6 ft/lbs
HIGH POWER
JSB Exact Beast 34gr - 60 shots avg 848fps 54.9 ft/lbs
MED POWER
JSB Exact Monsters 25.4gr - 115 shots avg 872fps 42.8 ft/lbs
LOW POWER
JSB Exact Heavy 18.1gr - 210 shots avg 890fps 31.6 ft/lbs
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Now that's pretty impressive. But ES numbers would be needed also to see how tight a spread that's for. And what pressure range
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