Why are pellets clipping my Huggett???

kaylaindy · Jul 30, 2018

I just got a new Kral Armour. I got a DonnyFL adapter and installed my .22 hugett. Each shot clips the end of the LDC and my groups are about 1 foot at 20 yards.

why would this happen? Do you think my Donny FL adapter is crooked? ...or the barrel inside the shroud is not lined up? It has to be either the adapter or barrel shroud. It shot perfect without the LDC installed. Any thoughts?

Im pretty mad because I just spent $900 on this and I can’t even shoot it without an LDC.

ANSWER: the Shroud iand the barrwl are not aligned. I was advised to use the next size up LDC from Donny FL. So I will put my 30 caliber LDC on there. He said Hatsan and Kral are notorious for that

addertooth · Jul 30, 2018

I used a 5mm rod (22 caliber is about 5.5 mm) slid through the LDC and into the bore to check alignment on an air rifle with a different brand of LDC. Then I wiggled the rod around to see if it had equal slap/wiggle in each direction. It was not a screw-on LDC, so I was able to adjust it straight.

MartinT · Jul 30, 2018

I had the same happen with a Huggett on my Wildcat. As the Wildcat is shrouded, I took it off and that was it.

The rod suggestion is a good one if you must have the suppressor/LDC/silencer on, as you can possibly manipulate (‘bend”) the LDC/suppresor/silencer to be aligned wit the bore.

hawkeye69 · Jul 30, 2018

I had clipping with my .22 Bantam using a Huggett. They found that it only 1 divider plate (there should be two not just one) and adding the second one fixed it. AOA said I must have taken it apart and lost it; I didn't. Apparently it was left out when assembled at the factory.

cootertwo · Jul 30, 2018

I had a slight clipping on one of my DonnyFl 22 cal moderators. I found a long drill bit slightly larger than the hole in the moderator, and ran it through. No more clipping. Now I usually just order my mods in 25 cal, no big difference in sound, and no worry about clipping.

steppenwulf · Jul 30, 2018

+1 quick drilling often solves the problem

JCD · Jul 30, 2018

Might sound silly but.... find a thin washer that will fit over the male adapter and snug the Huggett up to it and see what happens. This will change the position /'rotation' of the LDC. If the exit hole is off center, this might cure it, or make it worse. Either way its more info before you open the hole... and its usually a really simple test.

I've used thin steel washers all the way up to rubber washer meant for hoses. Some fixed, some got worse....

Kitplanenut · Jul 31, 2018

Had this happen on one of my guns and a couple for friends. In my case I have the ability to pull the barrel and chuck it up in the lathe and check the adapter or end of the barrel/shroud that mates up to the moderator with a dial indicator. In every case it has been the gun and not the moderator that was not true. Only 2 options are to true the mating face on the barrel or as mentioned above drill out or use the next size up in moderator. I always use the next size up. The machine work on DonnyFL moderators is exceptional and would be the last place I would expect a problem. Sorry to hear of your problem, but it's not uncommon. Good luck. sylvan

kaylaindy · Jul 31, 2018

Hey guys! I called Donny FL.It turns out that Hatsans and Krals are notorious for having crooked barrels inside the shroud. I knew my adapter and Huggett were precision. ..it had to be the Kral...so Donny said he always recommends to use the next size up supressor on any hatsan or kral. He said you will notice on some .22 cal Hatsans the hole in the end of the shround is the size of a .50 cal...that's beacause of thier barrels.

Thanks for all the input. I would never take a drill to my Huggett...but that would have solved the problem. Fortunately I have a .30 cal Huggett here.

Turns out the Kral Armour is super quiet without an LDC. It was 80 decibels with my Huggett and just 90 decibels without it. Cool gun so far. The "ping" and the pellet hitting the plywood down range was louder than the shot. More testing on the way.

Thanks again!! -Nate M

kaylaindy · Aug 12, 2018

Hey, Despite what my update video says. The barrel on my Kral is actually bored crooked...so even putting an LDC (30 cal) directly onto the end of the barrel did not help. It clipped the $300 Huggette.

DonnyFL said ask the manufacturer for a new barrel...too much work for me. But the gun is super accurate and pretty quiet (91dB) so that's wierd.

Just don't expect to get an LDC on your Armour...may not happen.

cmatera · Aug 13, 2018

I recently had a very slight clipping issue with an LDC. I would recommend everyone get the next size larger. The possibility of it being slightly louder is just not worth the risk. Mine was very slight. Could have even been a bent pellet skirt, but once you have a bit of lead deposited, the problem just gets worse. I would also recommend inspecting pellets carefully for use with the ldc.

kaylaindy · Aug 15, 2018

cmatera: Good point, that's kind of what Donny FL said. The barrel on my Kral Armour is bored crooked...so even my 30 cal Hugett threaded directly onto the barrel, got clipped. I'm still pretty bummed about it.

cmatera · Aug 16, 2018

Definitely frustrating when something that seems as simple as ordering and screwing it on is not. A lot of us can relate.

milacik · Aug 19, 2018

so what happens now, you have a mod you cant use? what is cheaper a barrel or a moderator?

BigTinBoat · Aug 19, 2018

so what happens now, you have a mod you cant use? what is cheaper a barrel or a moderator?

Apparently it's easier to just try and sell it............................just don't mention anything about the defect in your ad.

https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/the-new-kral-armour-bullpup-pcp-rifle-black-22-cal/

kaylaindy · Aug 19, 2018

BTB: Its not a defect. It gets 1/2 inch groups and there is no moderator required since the gun is 91 decibles. ANY Kral you get will do the same thing...thats why it would be a waste of time to request a new gun...that was my opinion anyway, when Donny suggested that. I was going to throw a Walther barrel on there but decided to move on. ...All my guns get sold. Why would I keep a $500 Kral when I have a stack of $3000 guns sitting here. I haven't even shot my Red Wolf! Shopping for a Crown or Impact now...probably the Crown.

Milacik: I hope my moderator is still OK. It cost $300!!! Its the biggest Huggette you can get. If it's ruined I'll be very mad at Kral Arms...lol!

BigTinBoat · Aug 20, 2018

Not a defect? I can tell you this. If I bought that gun from someone and found out that the seller KNEW the bore was drilled off-center and KNEW an LDC would NOT work being attached to the threaded 1/2'20 barrel (and didn't advertise those facts) we would be testing out how good the PayPal guarantee is with airguns.

kaylaindy · Aug 21, 2018

That's a good point. I guess I'll put something in the ad. The bore being drilled crooked was my personal guess. I'm not confident enough that's the problem to return it.

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