Help! I have funds for either of these airguns. I will be plinking, hunting out to 100yds, and target Shooting. Would like your opinion on workmanship, quality of components, ease of use. I can tinker with what I purchase but am afraid I will screw the gun up if I mess with it too much! So really would like the gun to be ready 2go out of box. Scope probably Hawke Sw 6.5x24, fill bottle ect. Been having a blast with my Stoger X20s, taking prey at 50 yds on occasion but ready to move into PCP. First started looking at M-rod but think I would like to upgrade sooner than later if I go that route, So I decided to go for the gusto. Help I'm perplexed!
Which to buy: Vulcan, Fx Bobcat or FX Wildcat? I need help deciding in 25 cal
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I think the bobcat and cricket are the only two that has the most history. I would ask myself what I would mostly do with the gun. If you are going to mostly be going on long walks, I wouldn't choose the bobcat. You could do long walks with the bobcat, I'm just saying if I had a choice of all the guns
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Put together a priority list. What is most important for your intend usage?
- Shot count
- weight; length; size
- preferred action
- multi or single shot
- Speed adjustability
- Decibels
- Wood or synthetic
- Dealer support
- parts availability
- scope rail type
- other?
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If you plan to do a lot of walking while hunting with your gun then you may want to wait and view the performance of the Wildcat as it is much lighter than either the Cricket or the Bobcat. In terms of accuracy, I seriously doubt there will be any statistically significant difference.
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I think the most compact .25 up to date is the Vulcan. The review I saw was impressive out to 150 yrds. I have one on order and was just notified they have arrived. 26inch long, close to 50fpe, forward cocking bolt and CZ hammer forge barrel. Second would the Cricket, they are awesome.
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Vulcan is a follower, FX is an innovator. Enough said.
As for the Cricket, it's overpriced and lacks the Élan vital of the FX.
The Bobcat is yesterdays dinner special reheated.
Get yourself a Wildcat or better yet, an FX Impact.
3 guns in one. You'll sleep better at night. Trust me.
EDIT: I retract my recommendation for the FX Impact as it has yet to be released and any recommendation as such serves no benefit to the OP or anyone else. In addition, it was not relevant to the topic asked y the OP as he asked about the Vulcan, Bobcat, and Wildcat. My comment about the Cricket is also irrelevant.
As for the Cricket, it's overpriced and lacks the Élan vital of the FX.
The Bobcat is yesterdays dinner special reheated.
Get yourself a Wildcat or better yet, an FX Impact.
3 guns in one. You'll sleep better at night. Trust me.
EDIT: I retract my recommendation for the FX Impact as it has yet to be released and any recommendation as such serves no benefit to the OP or anyone else. In addition, it was not relevant to the topic asked y the OP as he asked about the Vulcan, Bobcat, and Wildcat. My comment about the Cricket is also irrelevant.
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I agree I would wait for the Wildcat or even the Impact. I am really interested in That! Interchangable barrels high shot count. And so tactic-cool!
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For me personally the adjustable power is the deciding factor. If I could only have one rifle, it would be the Bobcat for it's flexibilty in power (urban backyard shooting, none of that mile long back yard some of you guys on here seem to have). I didn't realize how important it was to me until I sold my Bobcat (still waiting for my MK2 to arrive). I ended up buying an Edgun Matador R3M .22 to hold me over until the new Bobcat gets here. At 814fps (26.5 fpe) it's too much power for my SoCal backyard. When I shoot birds they explode and it's pretty gruesome. It's also a little loud. I don't want to tune it any lower than this. With my old Bobcat I just turned it to low power which was 510fps (14.7 fpe) and it was perfect.
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The only thing I agree with here is that 3 guns in one would be nice, however I have a hard enough time remembering hold overs for one rifle. Of course I might agree about the Élan vital, but I don't know what it means
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Ted
I am also looking for my perfect 25 and really don't have the opportunity to check the top contenders out for myself. Given priorities of (in order):
Compact and light weight
Repeater with at least 30 shots per fill and 2-3% fps variation
Able to generate at least 40 fpe
Accuracy of less than 1" @ 50 yrds
Reasonable factory moderation (no hearing protection required)
Proven reliable and easily serviceable
Appreciate your opinion based on your personal experience. For new products (FX wildcat and impact) assume these will follow previous releases in terms of accuracy/reliably...what would you buy? Thanks
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I'm truly being honest. That's the FX rifle that comes apart and goes in tiny case. Said he was selling it for a friend.
Ted, you know anyone that ran that shootout, call and ask.
John
Ted, you know anyone that ran that shootout, call and ask.
John
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Well, the Bobcat .25 is certainly off the list, if you want a compact .25. The Cricket .25 is also pretty hefty. I have held both the Wildcat and Vulcan, but have not shot either. To me, the Vulcan felt heavier, but was more compact. The wildcat was longer, but felt lighter. I will have my Wildcat .25 very soon. Some experience with that will help me offer a more complete opinion. And, maybe I'll get my hands on a Vulcan this year at Extreme Benchrest or the Pyramyd Air Cup.
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linsfreak, no worries. I lobbed you some positive accuracy for rolling with the punches.
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I really can't understand why anyone would recommend a gun that hasn't really been tested by actual users. (Wildcat) I have owned a Bobcat and I currently own a Vulcan. The Vulcan is lighter. It has a better regulator. The extreme spread is better with the Vulcan. The gun is more accurate past 100 yards. The bobcat is a beluga whale. It has a nice trigger but I think it is too heavy for a pup. Noise was about the same between the two. I'm not saying the Wildcats are bad but given the initial history of the baby beluga I will wait for FPS reviews.
As far as who the bullpup innovator is that distinction has to go to Ed from EDgun. Not FX. FX followed Ed.
As far as who the bullpup innovator is that distinction has to go to Ed from EDgun. Not FX. FX followed Ed.
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I don't think Ed was the originators of the bullpup design (trigger in front of the action by definition). I believe Daystate, Sportsmatch, & FX all made bullpups before Edgun. Ed just gets a lot of credit because he focussed most of his efforts on the bullpup design. Ted (through his videos) helped to make it popular to the masses. But there is no question that FX has been and continues to be a top innovator in our sport.
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And Ed of EDGun followed DayState. Don't believe me? Google Venom or SR92.
Anyhow, I digress. The OP specifically asked which of the three to buy (Vulcan, Bobcat or Wildcat). To suggest the OP consider other rifles only serves to confuse even thought I realize everyone's intentions are sound.
Scott
Anyhow, I digress. The OP specifically asked which of the three to buy (Vulcan, Bobcat or Wildcat). To suggest the OP consider other rifles only serves to confuse even thought I realize everyone's intentions are sound.
Scott
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Scott, I never said Ed invented the bullpup. The simple fact is Ed produced the first production outstanding bullpup that had a massive cult following that eventually became mainstream because Ted made cool videos. Ed proved that a well made pup could sell. The EDgun inspired Kalibrgun to make the Cricket, the Wildcat is a response to the Cricket. The first time I saw a side bolt was on Vulcan. Ted's IWA video from 2014. So I really don't know what you mean by Vulcan is a follower, if anything they are more an evolution from Kalibrgun since the owner used to work for Kalibrgun. These bullpups are really a Russian thing because they poach crows from their cars.
Back to the topic on hand. I still hold opinion that it is not fair to recommend a gun that does't really exist yet. How could anyone be truly objective off of feel alone?
Back to the topic on hand. I still hold opinion that it is not fair to recommend a gun that does't really exist yet. How could anyone be truly objective off of feel alone?
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