Which PCP Compressor To Buy

I just placed an order with PA for a Umerax ReadyAir compressor. It is not supposed to be available til 12/23, so I have some time. I'm thinking about either switching to the Nomad II, which is in stock, or waiting on the AV/Hill EC3000. I don't really care all that much about the cost, but don't want to blow money unnecessarily either. The Hill looks good, and the Umarex looks like it will fill my need, and the Nomad II looks promising too. Anyone who has any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

HELP! me decide.
 
I just can't say I am a huge fan of the "wait several minutes to fill your gun" compressors.

I much prefer having a 4500psi compressor and a tank or two. Especially if I am out shooting big bores...5-10 minute pause every 4-5 shots would be unwelcome. I have one of the original 4500 AirVenturi compressors, and if I feel the need for more air than my two tanks, I can load it in the truck with my 1600w inverter generator and get air at the range all day long, as long as its not too hot and humid out, then I would only want to be compressing air inside...
 
Don't be too shocked of it keeps breaking.

The Hill would probably be the second best odds in the sub $2500 price range if it's not a #1 choice Yong Heng.

Dunno about the Alpha Carette the but it was praised even by Humdinger so it MUST BE WORTH IT.

$2000 Daystate 110 jury still out if they fixed the bugs though.

$2500 on sale genuine Coltri MCH6 from Nuvair would be the minimum I think would last.

Be prepared to spend $400-$650 every year to year and a half or so too keep replacing those sub NON YONG HENG disposable compressors.
 
When buying the 4 year protection plan least hassles since they just send you a brand new replacement and you keep the broken one and they WILL BREAK. No out of pocket warranty shipping expense. Compressors are HEAVY even if they look small. Add all shipping back for warranty costs and see how much that cheap (or IFFY expensive) compressor or gun or scope ends up actually costing you after a year.
 
Don't be too shocked of it keeps breaking.

The Hill would probably be the second best odds in the sub $2500 price range if it's not a #1 choice Yong Heng.

Dunno about the Alpha Carette the but it was praised even by Humdinger so it MUST BE WORTH IT.

$2000 Daystate 110 jury still out if they fixed the bugs though. Odoyle, what bugs should I watch for since I just bought one

$2500 on sale genuine Coltri MCH6 from Nuvair would be the minimum I think would last.

Be prepared to spend $400-$650 every year to year and a half or so too keep replacing those sub NON YONG HENG disposable compressors.


 
While I respect Odoyle’s replies to help, I will disagree with his assessment. I never had a Yong Heng, nor do I have enough experience to endorse the Hill compressor I own.

I have major qualms regarding purchasing cheap anything. While some will argue that they don’t have the money for a good compressor, I just don’t buy it as a valid excuse.

I am sure that some will chastise my logic, but hear me out..

I read so many posts where members ask what is the cheapest compressor out there. Many who have these cheapies are filling $2k airguns, or the combined equivalent (or more) in filling multiple pcps they own. I realize that is not your intention, but many do play this game of buying cheap and repairing things over and over again. Even if you have a good warranty, there are still shipping costs/hassles, downtime, not to forget wasting your valuable time. The cost of 2.5 Yong Hengs will equal 1 Hill compressor cost. I am not saying that the Hill is better, but I won’t say it isn’t either. Just remember the phrase “time is money”. How much do you value your own time?

I say stick with what is quality even if you can’t afford it. Save up for it, or realistically evaluate whether or not this sport is something you can afford. There are plenty of great non-pcp platforms out there!

Again, my thoughts are not for the OP, rather for those who read his post.

top
 
  • Like
Reactions: Humdinger
While I respect Odoyle’s replies to help, I will disagree with his assessment. I never had a Yong Heng, nor do I have enough experience to endorse the Hill compressor I own.

I have major qualms regarding purchasing cheap anything. While some will argue that they don’t have the money for a good compressor, I just don’t buy it as a valid excuse.

I am sure that some will chastise my logic, but hear me out..

I read so many posts where members ask what is the cheapest compressor out there. Many who have these cheapies are filling $2k airguns, or the combined equivalent (or more) in filling multiple pcps they own. I realize that is not your intention, but many do play this game of buying cheap and repairing things over and over again. Even if you have a good warranty, there are still shipping costs/hassles, downtime, not to forget wasting your valuable time. The cost of 2.5 Yong Henge will equal 1 Hill compressor cost. I am not saying that the Hill is better, but I won’t say it isn’t either. Just remember the phrase “time is money”. How much do you value your own time?

I say stick with what is quality even if you can’t afford it. Save up for it, or realistically evaluate whether or not this sport is something you can afford. There are plenty of great non-pcp platforms out there!

Again, my thoughts are not for the OP, rather for those who read his post.

top

I agree with your logic. When I was younger with various other hobbies, sports, obsessions I would buy lesser quality items only to end up replacing them with what I had originally wanted and loosing money along the way. I bought that almost $2,000 air gun in 2018 and have always wanted my own air supply. I’ve watched lots of videos on the Yong Heng. At first I was excited but then the more I watched the more I realized they were not for me. I recently decided I would get a Daystate 110v as AOA is my local shop, but wasn’t ready to pull the trigger for $2,000. When I was at AoA earlier in the month they had one that had some minor damage in shipping that they fixed and had full warranty. So after waiting 2 years or so I got one and at a nice discount. Getting into Airguns in 2018 has been a lesson in patience. I ordered my FX Crown (my first airgun) in September 2017 and did not get it until late March 2018 and again with the compressor. Being patient is a trait I need more of. 
 
Don't be too shocked of it keeps breaking.

The Hill would probably be the second best odds in the sub $2500 price range if it's not a #1 choice Yong Heng.

Dunno about the Alpha Carette the but it was praised even by Humdinger so it MUST BE WORTH IT.

$2000 Daystate 110 jury still out if they fixed the bugs though. Odoyle, what bugs should I watch for since I just bought one

$2500 on sale genuine Coltri MCH6 from Nuvair would be the minimum I think would last.

Be prepared to spend $400-$650 every year to year and a half or so too keep replacing those sub NON YONG HENG disposable compressors.


DONT YOU READ THIS FORUM?

OH MAN!
 
I do my own due diligence when paying over $300 as a general rule of thumb and even more so on anything especially when they cost more than $500 I get super duper critical then. I still bought FIVE FX IMPACTS after doing my own due diligence specifically because of TED'S HOLDOVER and AIR HUNTERS SA AND MATT DUBBER and already knew the risks reading all the forums so I really wasn't surprised but thats on me believing YouTube. At least 3 out of 5 shoot perfect and I can live with this ratio and worth it if you get one of the good trouble free FXs out of each of their production runs/batches IMHO.
 
There are even more if you do your own search function but I think that about sums it up dont need you to get a heart attack after the fact.

If I owned the Daystate 110 I would only use it fill to 3260psi MAX as its originally rated for unless they significantly beefed things up just recently if you know yours was improved or original design? I would personally be running it like I stole it during the last 2 month's of its WARRANTY deliberately maxing it to fill to 4500psi and refill all of my buddies tanks all the way to 4500psi daily just to top them off right before warranty expires but thats just me.

Kinda like what AV did to the Air Venturi Avenger IMHO.


 
I bought the $2000 Omega Supercharger compressor when it FIRST came out with NO PROVEN HISTORY and failed DOA then again right after that. Many documented failures after that. I bought TWO FX compressors many years ago close to $3000 invested because I shipped both twice when they wouldn't fill past 900 and 1100 psi. Both failed using each half the time going between 2 houses bought 2 so I didn't need to lug one back and fourth all the time. Both Were purchased brand new at the time no proven history either.

Do I have a right to state my case buying blind with no proven longevity record on any brand new items released...anyone?

I can never endorse any items with history of so many repeated failures.

I can sympathize if anyone's too lazy to do their research before flushing their hard earned money down the toilet but that's the only way we all actually learn.

Don't have to believe a word that I say and learnin on your own makes you better humans. Nothing beats real life first hand experience.
 
Don't be too shocked of it keeps breaking.

The Hill would probably be the second best odds in the sub $2500 price range if it's not a #1 choice Yong Heng.

Dunno about the Alpha Carette the but it was praised even by Humdinger so it MUST BE WORTH IT.

$2000 Daystate 110 jury still out if they fixed the bugs though. Odoyle, what bugs should I watch for since I just bought one

$2500 on sale genuine Coltri MCH6 from Nuvair would be the minimum I think would last.

Be prepared to spend $400-$650 every year to year and a half or so too keep replacing those sub NON YONG HENG disposable compressors.


DONT YOU READ THIS FORUM?

OH MAN!

What is hard is to decipher what you read. For me anyway. I bought a Omega turbo charger a couple years ago. It was praised by many. 

Trusted salesman told me they would buy the omega hands down over the daystate even though they sold the daystate also. Today the same guys recommend the daystate over the omega. I have a Alkin that should arrive tomorrow. I have way too much money tied up in compressors. When I think how many N2 bottles I could get for 5000 bucks I wonder if I made a wise decision buying the Alkin we shall see. It does have a three year warranty but its a long haul from Az to NJ
 
Thinking from a business perspective side it's rather ingenious to deliberately manufacture items that are meant to be disposable this way customers are forced to buy more of them after the warranty done and item fails like the Avenger and AV compressors stuff and other brands people have to always keep buying new after warranty is over namely the non mechanically inclined users. Just like disposable razors.

They should at least beef them up to last just past that 1 year warranty mark then perfect no complaints lasted 1 year it's fine they did their job well.

If they lasted too long like a Toyota how are they gonna make maximum sales this quickly? 

Ingenious and Chinese people (from mainland China) have this common ****** mindset throw everything away they are disposable and cheap enough how do I know so much? I was married to one and involved with 2 more FOBs (YEA STUPID ME) 2 were business minded one was a major international Chinese global trade Corporation family owner daughter. Even got price lists on cost of goods across the board for a lot of items we Americans use daily you all would faint how cheap things cost. Think 15-20-50x (fold factor/ times and not percent) markup from FOB China. Example your $15 to $20 to $50 item may have cost $1.00. How do you think Wal-Mart is so successful even with all the shrinkage by returns and pilferage and theft?

Had been almost set up with Vector Optics China and was shocked by the prices how cheap their scopes and their competitors scopes actually cost FOB Mainland China.

The $899 Vector must be under $80. It was selling when first introduced for $499 just couple months ago.

Aliexpress has wised up and majority uppity upped their prices because of greed and telling us Americans what they really think of us.
 
If you stay in the game long enough, and shoot where you fill two or three SCBA tanks per week, sometimes more, you’ll eventually buy a real dive compressor. But being as we’re all human, and generally only learn from our experiences and mistakes, you’ll probably go the route that most of us go. 
Yong Heng Single, then Tuxing double or Air Venturi (or equivalent), then Omega or Daystate LC-110, and finally after 3 or 4 years of always wondering when your compressor will fail, you’ll buy a real dive compressor. Might be an Alkin, Coltri, Bauer, AireTex or whatever, but eventually you’ll buy one...
 
If you stay in the game long enough, and shoot where you fill two or three SCBA tanks per week, sometimes more, you’ll eventually buy a real dive compressor. But being as we’re all human, and generally only learn from our experiences and mistakes, you’ll probably go the route that most of us go. 
Yong Heng Singke, then Tuxing double or Air Venturi (or equivalent), then Omega or Daystate LC-110, and finally after 3 or 4 years of always wondering when your compressor will fail, you’ll buy a real dive compressor. Might be an Alkin, Coltri, Bauer, AireTex or whatever, but eventually you’ll buy one...

Good point Centercut. I don't plan to stop shooting air rifles. After not going to a dive shop or air gun store to get air for a couple years. I can't imagine having to go back to chasing air. 
 
Well, I can't afford the nice compressors, but I did spring for a Yong Heng a couple years ago. Quality lacks a bit as it spent 6 months waiting for parts off Ali Express, and when I got the parts in, couldn't remember how to put the reed valve back together. Thank heavens one (and only one) person did a tutorial on YouTube for the valve assembly.

If you get a Yong Heng, so many people tell you, gotta have about $500 in extra filters and dryers and extra cooling, etc. I have one extra filter and that's it. After a couple years using it, no issues with water, but I do live in Utah, in the Great Basin Desert. Dry air may just make a difference.

Anyway, choose carefully, buy the best your budget will allow. Service and parts are important because these things push a lot of air into a tiny space! The stresses are incredible and something is likely to break.

Of course, at under $350, you can buy one, and get a second as a spare and still save over most other options. I will say, they do work!

Good luck!