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    AdmiralEddie
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    Hello AGN.  I’m new to the PCP world and would like some input on my next purchase.  I have a .22 Gamo Urban that I use for pesting on a farm I own.  This got me hooked!  For small stuff it is effective to 50 yards but I am looking for 100 yard accuracy and power.  Specifically, for groundhogs in the 75-100 yard range.  I’d like a bullpup and for it to be relatively quiet as there are houses in the vicinity.  Here is what I have narrowed my selections to:

    FX wildcat compact .25
    FX crown .30 and .22 barrel (I know the Impact meets the bullpup and is interchangeable barrels.  I just don’t like the minimalist look)
    FX Bobcat .30
    Daystate Renegade .30

    I’d prefer to stay at .25 for the noise, but I’m not sure it will be enough.  The Crown probably bridges most of my needs but of course is the most expensive and I’d prefer not to have to fuss between barrels.  Again, Groundhogs at 75-100 yards is the primary objective, but I do enjoy shooting for accuracy and fun.

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    Bob_O
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    FX Bobcat 25.

     

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    intenseaty22
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    I have a Kalibrgun Cricket .25, Power Tunned by Charlie Frear to sling the 34gr JSBs @ 910fps, good for 62fpe with excellent accuracy. 

    I’m pretty intrigued by the new Wildcat Compact. Looks really promising. 

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    ackc1234
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    Based on your list I would agree with Bob the bobcat in .25…. off you list I would agree with intenseatty22…a stock cricket would probably meet your needs

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    AdmiralEddie
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    Thanks for the quick replies!  I wasn’t even considering the Bobcat .25 but I’ll take a close look.  What is the benefit of the Bobcat over the Wildcat in .25? 

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    Bob_O
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    At 75 to 100 yards, even with a 30 caliber, you’ll need to do your part…..that is long range and shot placement will be critical.

    It’s critical at any range but your groups will open up past 50, then factor in any wind.

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    Bob_O
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    Maybe consider a gun that can shoot slugs.

    I’m waiting on the Slug-X barrel liner for my WC25.

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    Greenarrow
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    Also consider a FX Royale 500 which is .25 and very accurate.  It goes along with the Crown but with out the fuss and less coin.

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    TonyT
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    I have the Cricket in 25 and it is a superb performer. The only reservation have on my synthetic stocked version is it,s weight, a bit on the heavy side. However it provides ca 60 FT lbs consistently without any POI changes.

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    intenseaty22
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    “Bob_O”At 75 to 100 yards, even with a 30 caliber, you’ll need to do your part…..that is long range and shot placement will be critical.
    It’s critical at any range but your groups will open up past 50, then factor in any wind.

    
Bob, is there a resource that one could learn what the different X (twist rates) will do? ie: 1:12 will shoot 16 grains, 1:9 is specifically made for 18gr, etc. I know the theory behind the development, just don’t know of any data as I inquired above. Thanks. 

     

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    intenseaty22
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    “TonyT”I have the Cricket in 25 and it is a superb performer. The only reservation have on my synthetic stocked version is it,s weight, a bit on the heavy side. However it provides ca 60 FT lbs consistently without any POI changes.

    
I’d shop around for a wooden skeleton, see what you could find. 

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    Quoddy
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    I went from a Wildcat .22 with a DonnyFL suppressor to an Impact .30, also with a DonnyFL suppressor and shroud. The suppressed Impact is neighborhood friendly. I have many mid sized varments including foxes, so the .30 is a great choice. I have it zeroed in at 75 yards and there’s plenty of power to 100… and beyond.

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    bigdaves40
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    You may want to look at the atman in .357. its Regulated. And power house. Comes in bull pup and rifles. And it may still be on sale at pyramid air, or aoa. Not a .30 cal. Problems with the barrels.  They over size ID last I heard they haven’t fixed that problem yet.

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    Bob_O
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    “intenseaty22”

    “Bob_O”At 75 to 100 yards, even with a 30 caliber, you’ll need to do your part…..that is long range and shot placement will be critical.
    It’s critical at any range but your groups will open up past 50, then factor in any wind.

    
Bob, is there a resource that one could learn what the different X (twist rates) will do? ie: 1:12 will shoot 16 grains, 1:9 is specifically made for 18gr, etc. I know the theory behind the development, just don’t know of any data as I inquired above. Thanks. 
     

    
Sorry, I was in a movie theater.

    I don’t know much about air rifle twist rates and pellets.  I think FX tailors the rate for the lighter pellets in both 22 (15.89) and 25 (25.4) calibers….I could easily be wrong.
    I haven’t tried the 25gr pellets in my WC25 with X barrel liner.   All I know is that the 34gr MKII pellets shoot very accurately and don’t wobble at 850fps.   I imagine the 25gr pellets would be accurate as well.

    I hope the Slug-X barrels become available soon as I will order one up immediately.     

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    Bob_O
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    “AdmiralEddie”Thanks for the quick replies!  I wasn’t even considering the Bobcat .25 but I’ll take a close look.  What is the benefit of the Bobcat over the Wildcat in .25? 

    
Sorry, trying to get caught up here.

    Two major benefits IMO.  One is the power wheel….the WC doesn’t have one. The other is the magazine…..the Bobcat will lock the lever open after the last pellet, the WC will not.

    The other things I like about the Bobcat are the longer fore stock and twist-off air cylinder.

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    AdmiralEddie
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    Thanks for all the replies.  I went with the .25 Wildcat today with way too many accessories!  I will have some explaining to do with the Mrs.

    I posted in the “other accessories” section for Bi-pod advise.  Specifically about Accu-Tacs if anyone has an input, it would be appreciated.  Thanks again for the help!

     

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