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where are all the old Impact MK1's and Impact X's?

Forums PCP Airguns PCP Airgun – Discussion where are all the old Impact MK1's and Impact X's?

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    Saltlake58
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    Considering the number of MK1's or Gen 1's and Impact X models out there, I wonder where they all are? Are they still being shot or just sitting in a closet somewhere?  Few are for sale, I don't see any chatter about upgrading them nor do I see much in the classifieds or AEA or UA used sections.  I do seem to see one on eBay once in a while, but that's about it.

    I was considering trying to buy an early MK1 to tinker with, but just don't see much and the few I see are way overpriced considering the work I plan on putting into it.  

    So, where are they?  Any thoughts?

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    jps2486
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    I have two.  Both shoot well and there’s no reason for me to replace them.

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    Saltlake58
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    Glad to hear they both shoot well, so a question.  Are they still stock or have you added a touch here and there like the X Barrel or Power Plenum?

     

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    8thman
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    There’s a lot shooters that have turned them into mk2 and added the power plenum as well as many of the other options. If you can buy them right it’s a great way to go. I have been waiting for the opportunity but when it’s the right price they don’t last long, and it’s been a while since I’ve seen one.

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    Hatmike
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    Mine is an impact X. 30 cal. I've done any and everything to it .great gun .shoots great.wont ever sale.

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    Saltlake58
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    I hear ya, mine is a late production MK1 that I've added the Power Plenum and the X Barrel and upgraded to a superior liner.  When it's shooting (started leaking last night, time to tear it apart again!) it's a fantastic shooter.  

    I too would like to find a nice early model at a good price, but when you consider the $$ to install the PP and upgrade the barrel, and whatever else it might need, and in the end, it's still a Gen 1 without all the MK III goodies, it'd have to be a very good prices, say sub-$1000 for me to jump on it.  Since most of them still go for considerably more than $1000, it'll be a while before I get my hands on another used Impact.

     

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    R0B
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    I have a late model mk1 with the later intermediate reg and a mk2. I am currently in the process of upgrading both to M3 spec. Seems silly not to. 

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    Saltlake58
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    Rob – Same.  for the MKI, I  Added a PP and the X Barrel.  I took delivery of a MKII about two months before the MKIII came out.  While it doesn't have the tuning goodies, it's more than enough for my needs.  For now the mKII will remain a pellet shooter.  With the power the Impacts put out, shooting pellets won't even put a strain on the gun!

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    Glem.Chally
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    That's a big selling point for FX IMO backwards compatibility.  Not everything but most things can be upgraded if you choose to. 

     

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    Vetmx
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    I have wondered the same thing. I had such a hard time getting one when they first came out. When I figured out a way to get one, I wasn’t prepared for what a headache it was. Also back then, I was hand pumping the thing. I’ve thought about getting another like my original just to try to conquer it this time but the prices are just dumb when one pops up for sale. Lord knows what one of those types of guns has been through by now. Because the gun basically requires the owner to almost have no choice but to work on it makes it a super high risk used purchase. It would have to be cheap for me to take the chance.

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    Talonp.25
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    I don't know wish they would bring them back I think they were build better 

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    Elis5173
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    I'm waiting on a mk2 without the power plenum to show up on the classifieds. I want to make it a low ftlbs build with an insane amount of shots like the uk guys have. Not 12ftlbs but maybe 15 or so in 177. Just want to use it as a paper puncher.

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    Ydunn.223
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    Talonp.25

    I don't know wish they would bring them back I think they were build better 

    I will agree they seem to be built better.

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    plingpling
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    I never felt a urge to mod my old Cyclone, once i found the sweet pellet there was no looking back, and at +50M it pretty much made ragged holes and that only changed if i tried silly stuff like freehand or mono shooting "stick"

    Even if it have often given me a " HEY ! thats not where i aimed" when a pellet have somehow moved 5 – 10 mm from where it was supposed to hit.

     

    Now that i have another gun ( just got off phone with dealer and FX is ready to ship ) then the idea of a STX or superior barrel on the old Cyclone have popped into my mind now and then, but i dont think there is a kit for something like that.

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    biohazardman
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    I have one of the old pre AMP regulator Impact-X guns.  It is heavily modified although I have de-tuned it a bit because I have an M3 on the way.

    I have seen a few of the MK1 guns going for $1400 and thought that was a fair price especially if one was not going above .22 or .25 caliber as one would really not need the power plenum.

    I would expect most are keeping them though as they cost too much to replace and quite a bit to upgrade to MKII specs.  Still it is much less expensive to upgrade than replace the gun.

    My mods to the Gen1 Impact

    https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/never-ending-mods-on-the-gen1-5-impact-x/?referrer=1

    https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/my-trip-down-the-rabbit-hole-with-gen1-impact-modding/?referrer=1

    https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/the-true-cost-of-owning-a-pcp/?referrer=1

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    Saltlake58
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    Biohazardman – I think the .22 may not need the PP, but the 34 grain .25 really does. (Mine is a .25).  It shoots so much better.  I was able to drop the reg pressure from 145 bar to 11o bar and get the same performance and better air control made it a bit more accurate.  Personally, I'd install the PP first, no matter which caliber.  I just has such good results!

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    biohazardman
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    I would have to agree with you, for the most part, as I put a polish plenum on my Gen1 and like you lowered my reg pressure significantly.  But it shot the 25 and 34gr JSB pellets pretty well with the stock plenum and up about 150+bar, had a modified Huma reg, as well.  Still like you I feel much better with the plenum installed and reduced reg pressure. Shooting the 34 pellets and 34-38 slugs is a joy with the plenum for sure.

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    Vetmx
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    You don’t have to wait long or look hard to pick up a MKll PP for around $1,500. That in itself puts a 4 year old tiny reg rubber ball Impact at a sub $1k gun. If the owner did some mods to bring it more up to date, that keeps the price still below $1k because of the risk that he might be a hamfist. But buyers do control the market and as long as they keep spending stupid money for used stuff, I will continue to buy new for a couple bucks more, even if I have to wait. I often wonder if I will ever buy a used airgun some day. At the going rates, I highly doubt it.

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    cmatera
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    I’m with you.  Recently, I put up a WTB ad for maybe the second time in my life.  I gave up and called my dealer for a new one.

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    Saltlake58
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    Vetmx

    You don’t have to wait long or look hard to pick up a MKll PP for around $1,500. That in itself puts a 4 year old tiny reg rubber ball Impact at a sub $1k gun. If the owner did some mods to bring it more up to date, that keeps the price still below $1k because of the risk that he might be a hamfist. But buyers do control the market and as long as they keep spending stupid money for used stuff, I will continue to buy new for a couple bucks more, even if I have to wait. I often wonder if I will ever buy a used airgun some day. At the going rates, I highly doubt it.

    I think you may have hit the real issue.  Some time ago, before I upgraded to a power plenum, I called Utah Airguns and asked what my Gen 1 would be worth.  Without seeing it, he said $600 or maybe $800 tops because they'd completely go through the gun (cost to them) and the most they could ask would be something like $1200.  So, to me, if it's only worth $600 or $800, I'll keep it and use the parts on another gun.  The bottle is worth a couple hundred, the barrel is worth another couple hundred, and if I keep it all together, it's a complete gun I can shoot.  It just wasn't worth it to sell the gun, it had more value to me than the market price.

    So, maybe all those Gen 1 impacts are getting shot, then again, maybe a good number are gathering dust simply because the owner simply can't get enough out of the gun to make it worth while.  That, I can understand.

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