what to choose R10 vs Wolverine

"CampFussell"Cliff, I have a friend who has a Daystate MK4 in .177 . It is lights out accurate inside of 50 yds. I've shot it several times and it seems to be more accurate than my AA S500, and even my Cricket and FX at the 30 yd mark? Might have something to with the electronic trigger?
Was having a hard time accepting anything with an electronic trigger, but the more I shoot it, the more I can see why it's so accurate, and I'm really starting to like it.
It shoots the 8.44 grain JSB Exacts the best.
Anyway, he's looking into getting one of these BSA R-10 's in .22 cal.
Seems the .22 cal are on back order and won't be back in stock until late August?
He's tried several different dealers and same story. So they must be flying off the shelves? LOL!

Jimmy! It's great to hear from you, how's everything been? Glad to see you here, I'm not on the yellow anymore so it's nice to see familiar names/faces here. Thanks for sharing the info on the Daystate. One day I would love to try one of their electronic triggers. You are lucky to live near a friend who also shares the same hobby. I don't know of anyone around me that is into airguns. I've tried gently nudging a few work buddies into trying them a couple of times over the years but with little interest and no takers. Maybe I smell or something haha. In any case, thanks for sharing the info, hope all is well!

Regards,
Cliff
 
Craig I hope I can get whatever supplier I get the R10 from to open a few boxes and send me photos before I buy. I am a wood guy and would love a stock looking like your tuners. Almost looks like a fancy Turkish one instead of Italian.

Cliff, yeah it is nice to have friends close with interest in PCPs /Airguns.

Trying to get others into the dark side can be daunting. Look at the initial cost with the accessories alone in the hundreds. Then there is the gun prices. I am a gunsmith and can't say I ever spent over $1000.00 for a base rifle. Yet I was over $2000.00 for the Daystate and scope. And I got the rifle for a deal new!

So I don't know about your olfactory disgust to your co workers, but I would think it is more $$ then odor....lol
 
Wow, this has turned into quite the post Nijiam. I'm ready to hear from the Wolverine owners too.
Sorry we steered your post away from the original intent, but it's good to see old friends on here. Hope you don't mind.

Cliff, it's good to see you hear as well. I always enjoyed your post on the Yellow, and am really looking forward to them here. I love your pie plate targets and all the testing you do with your newly acquired rifles to show us what they are capable of.

I count my self very lucky to have stumbled across my friend Paul. He has acquired a taste for fine air rifles right off the bat! LOL And I get to shoot some fine rifles in the process ;-)

Paul and I haven't had much luck getting any of our powder burner friends addicted to this sport yet, but our one claim to fame is encouraging our friend Rodney in our airgun club to come over to the "Dark Side" with outstanding results. His score jumped from a 17 to a 46 in Hunter Field Target by making that leap ;-)

Craig, that shorty R-10 you have is one sexy beast. I think I saw where your tuner posted a pic of it too. Thanks for all your info with the BSA's.

Jimmy
 
I owned the Wolverine B-type in .22 for some time and I loved it. 
The accuracy is half inch at 50 yard easy. I had a Nikko Stirling 9x magnification on the rifle and even with that budget scope I was getting great results.
You wont be disappointed with either stocks- both are magnificent.
The only complaint I have about the Wolverine is that it is quite a heavy rifle when a big scope is fitted so off hand shooting is difficult (even with the very comfy rubber butt plate) But if you plan on only using it for the bench you probably cant get much better.
There are also a few nifty features on the wolverine. The bolt-open safety is very useful as well as the anti- double load feature.
The only reason I sold mine is because I do a lot of stalking when I hunt so a bullpup fits my requirements better 

I know I am opening a big can of worms here, and I know they are very expensive, but maybe you should consider a Air Wolf in .25?
Consistency will be unparalleled thanks to the MCT system and the .25 will buck the wind very well when shooting from the bench.


 
As I said I had a 9x magnification scope with a VERY thick reticle on the gun so I am sure you could get much better accuracy out of it with a Hawke or any other decent scope. So yes 0.3 inch groups ctc is most defiantly what you can expect on a calm day off the bench.
Another thing to note is that the pellet stability on the Wolverine is something special. Absolutely no wobble at 50, 75 or 100 yards. 

The Wolverine Hi-lite (the one with the carbon bottle) has amazing balance. I only shot one once, but it felt like a different gun. ( Except for the accuracy)

Unfortunately I have never shot a R10, but I can tell you the Wolverine is something special 
 
Thanks Davaid now I am up in the air about the two! Thanks....lol

I am a Daystate fan since I own one and was trying to avoid putting out several grand. I may have to rethink that though...I love the MCT trigger. I don't think you will find a smoother release. The Airwolf is tempting except I want .22 for comps and several classes will not allow electronics... Well it's off to lunch with frtiends
 
"strikefast"Craig I hope I can get whatever supplier I get the R10 from to open a few boxes and send me photos before I buy. I am a wood guy and would love a stock looking like your tuners. Almost looks like a fancy Turkish one instead of Italian.

Cliff, yeah it is nice to have friends close with interest in PCPs /Airguns.

Trying to get others into the dark side can be daunting. Look at the initial cost with the accessories alone in the hundreds. Then there is the gun prices. I am a gunsmith and can't say I ever spent over $1000.00 for a base rifle. Yet I was over $2000.00 for the Daystate and scope. And I got the rifle for a deal new!

So I don't know about your olfactory disgust to your co workers, but I would think it is more $$ then odor....lol
Strikefast, it may be worth it to ask someone to open the box and check the stock for you. My first BSA I had to RMA because of a fault between the bottle and the gun and now I'm glad I had the issue because the stock on the first gun they sent me was incredibly plain and boring by all accounts and I was amazed at the difference in character and the striping in the second stock. Night and day difference.

Regards,
Cliff
 
Cliff...you can call me Paul.. the Strikefast was when I wanted to be confidential..Actually the name of one of my boats...you know how that goes. I definitely want to see the rifle I am getting prior to putting down over $1000.00. If they cannot do that simple thing I will go elsewhere. I need to get all the guns in a row to decide. The Wolverine, HW 100 FSB thumb hole, and a couple of others I like need to be together to see who wants to come live with me. LOL

Thanks again for the info
Paul
 
OK guys with the BSA R10 MK2..... have you heard of these problems?

1 With the single shot tray pellets drop out of it if the gun is tilted when loading? Also since the single tray loads from the left, trouble with a parallax wheel?

2 Anyone experience the chrome on the bolt flaking into the barrel. I thought the bolt was Stainless Steel but this occurred to a friend in his.

Not a problem but has any owner bought and use the Rowan Engineering single shot tray that pops open when the bolt is pulled back to load? fI so please tell me it is sweet and works great! lol
 
I have the r10, I've heard all the problems that you have, I have not experienced any of those issues with mine.
I have it in .177 and plan to get one in .22 and maybe .25
I chose to replace my reg with a huma and 280cc bottle not that the stock rifle was a problem but I wanted to improve on what was already a great gun imo.

at 50 yards.

the stock reg out, the huma in.

shot string

 
Well I think i'm gonna go with the wolverine for the following reasons:

1- Ted and Matt Dubber have both bought this gun from their own money and they believe it's a great gun (hope its not gimmick just to sell the gun).
2- a carbon fiber bottle fits directly into the stock without any modification.
3- a cylinder conversion kit is available from Daystate should you choose to change a bit .
4- accurate at long distances as i have seen on YouTube from many air-gunners and sources.

How come i cant find any long range shooting with the BSA ( 100-150 yards) .