What rifles have you converted to pistols?

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    steve123
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    Definitely want photo's and advice! Specifically interested in having a "P-ifle" for HFT but it'd be neat to see what you guys have for other purposes.

    Currently thinking of buying a BSA Ultra and cutting the stock off.

    Every time I go look at a 1720 I get turned off for some reason, just don't like the look of em, and it's a Crosman.

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    Franklink
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    Hey Steve,

    You might already be more familiar with this particular gun than I am, but that gun I shot in the pistol comp at the state shoot is an Air Arms….400 or maybe 410. It's Bill's (Vegas Bill) and I think he told me that he did the conversion from rifle to pistol himself. The accuracy is definitely there with that gun, although trigger could be adjusted a little better. Misses were my fault, not the gun. That little experience showed me just how hard pistol field target is. I didn't shoot in the bipod class and holding steady with a pistol without a bipod or shooting harness is just plain tough. 

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    Franklink
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    AOA has a little BSA youth gun on their used list right now. I think it's. .177 and 12fpe. I'd imagine it's got a short enough barrel to be a candidate for a cut down pifle. 

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    Hairsmith
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    @airngasman to the red courtesy phone please.

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    0akhonor
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    The PBR's that were made the past, Air Arms S400's , still appear at our pistol FT matches. Marvelous quality, those that recieved theirs before Peter left are very pleased. 

    I've a crosman 760 pump pistol I made with a hacksaw, carried all across the world in my duffle and ruck when in the service. A great little lizard, bird and small rodent killer when out in the jungle or desert, fresh meat was always on the menu.

    Used to to sneak up onto 'enemy' positions during Field exercises and cause havoc with quiet pellet and bb destruction- overhead lights, headlights, and the occasional 'bee sting' to opponents buttocks.

     

     

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    steve123
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    Cole, I saw that rifle yesterday! I'm going to call Robert tomorrow. I think it was Bill's pistol I tried last year??? I had a BSA Scorpion about a decade ago that was actually a good rifle. 

    Yeah, I tried PFT in open, hunter, and freestyle, over the last 4 years. I'll probably do hunter. 

     

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    steve123
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    0akhonor

    The PBR's that were made the past, Air Arms S400's , still appear at our pistol FT matches. Marvelous quality, those that recieved theirs before Peter left are very pleased. 

    I've a crosman 760 pump pistol I made with a hacksaw, carried all across the world in my duffle and ruck when in the service. A great little lizard, bird and small rodent killer when out in the jungle or desert, fresh meat was always on the menu.

    Used to to sneak up onto 'enemy' positions during Field exercises and cause havoc with quiet pellet and bb destruction- overhead lights, headlights, and the occasional 'bee sting' to opponents buttocks.

     

     

    Ha, sounds fun!

    Hopefully someone will comment on their converted S400's.

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    Motorhead
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    Indeed the BSA guns make excellent conversions.   Above my first version of a Single shot SCORPION that just fit within the rules of 15" barrel having NO LDC with an over shroud that just tensions the barrel. Air tube was full length allowing "just" legal sub 25" OAL  ( above photo from the 2018 Nevada State FT championship )

     

    Sense then REPLACED BOTH the barrel and air tube as well stock from the plastic to wood.

    Installed a 12" LW that allowed shroud to get baffling and stay sub 15"

    Replaced air tube with an ULTRA tube and shot for a while finding it a tad small questionably able to finish a match on a 230 bar fill.  Then picked up an air tube off a Gold Star which split the difference in length from OEM and Ultra specs … PERFECT

     

    * Gun has a HuMa regulator / plenum and lighter hammer core + a SSG device making it really air efficient and quite.  Power is just shy of the 12 FPE limit.

    As set now gets an easy 50+ shots allowing an entire FT match without needing air.

     

     

    Scott

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    Duckfish
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    Did some mention PBR?  743fps w AA10.3, accurate with a nice bark.

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    Motorhead
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    Duckfish

    Did some mention PBR?  743fps w AA10.3, accurate with a nice bark.

    Is it CONVERTED RIFLE ?  or a production pistol based on a rifle ?  …. Sounds similar but IMO there is a difference.

    And … at 743 with a 10.3 your at 12.6 ft-lbs and NOT legal in Pistol FT … just sayin.

     

    Happy new year Ed, hope we see you more in 2020 playing FT

     

    Scott

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    Duckfish
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    Happy New Year Scott!  Peter made the guns from AA S400 rifles, each one was made to order.  Not only is this pistol over the foot pound limit, it's too long as well.  But as I prefer Silhouette over FT it suits me.  Looking forward to seeing you in the new year, who would of thought the best sushi rolls are in Hangtown!  Lol!

    If it's considered a production pistol so be it.  You would know better than I.  Someone earlier in the thread mentioned it so I thought I would show it off.   

     

    Here is is a pic Peter sent me while he was putting it together.  When I first got it from him it was only putting out about 5 foot pounds.  I sent it back and told him I wanted 12, he obliged.  I'm sure it's no big task to turn it down a smudge if I wanted.

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    Septicdeath
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    Haven't done a pistol but converted this Hatsan 130QE .30 to a 8mm  smoothbore shotgun. Works fantastic at 30ft or closer.

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    Scotchmo
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    PROD grip frame modified to accept a shortened gen1 Marauder rifle tube and rifle breech. .177 HW barrel, Huma regulator. 60 shots at 12fpe.

    1720T (top), XPROD (bottom)

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    steve123
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    Nice Scorpion there Motorhead/Scott! That's kinda what I'm looking for except I'm not handy with much gunsmithing, well except maybe working on wood. Did the machining yourself?

    Sweet wood on that PRB S400 and a racey looking pistol for sure! That would be awesome to have! 

    Hey Scott, Man that's a lot of shots on the ModRod, there I gave you a new name for your pistol!

    Septicdeath, what do you use that for. I mean on what???

    I'm really enjoying all these ideas, keep em coming.

     

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    steve123

    Nice Scorpion there Motorhead/Scott! That's kinda what I'm looking for except I'm not handy with much gunsmithing, well except maybe working on wood. Did the machining yourself?

    Sweet wood on that PRB S400 and a racey looking pistol for sure! That would be awesome to have! 

    Hey Scott, Man that's a lot of shots on the ModRod, there I gave you a new name for your pistol!

    Septicdeath, what do you use that for. I mean on what???

    I'm really enjoying all these ideas, keep em coming.

     

    I've bagged a few crows. Three collared doves and a rat. Will be trying it on other critters also.

    I will probably be converting a Hatsan 125 .25 to a 7mm  smothbore  shotgun soon. It will have a longer barrel and more fps. I'm guessing I'll get around 700+fps but less shot pellets.

    The  8mm  fps average is 523fps using Sabots loaded with 47 grains of lead dove shot.

     

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    Septicdeath
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    Here are the shot sabots 47 grains. And shot spread at around 20 feet using a 37 grain sabot. I can make the sabots  any grain I want and any shot size as long as they are 50 grains of less. 

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    steve123
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    That's kinda fun!

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    dan_house
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    None.

     

    But Ive converted a few pistols to rifles/carbines…..

     

     

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    AirNGasman
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    The Crosman 180 can also be converted into a mighty impressive air pistol. Shortening the barrel by half (to 8½”) only reduces velocity about 10%, and accuracy not at all! The 180 pistol below has shot five-shot groups measuring a mere .12” center-to-center at 25 yards and .53” at fifty! But better illustrating its capabilities are five-group averages of .37” c-t-c at 25 yards and .74” at fifty. All groups were shot in outdoor winds.

    A dime and quarter sit next to the smallest and largest 50 yard groups for perspective.

    The field-target ‘pistol’ project

    After successfully converting Chinese Co2 rifles to regulated high-pressure air (HPA), the time came ripe to build an HPA pistol. A newly-procured adjustable-trigger 187 wasn’t in great condition, but accuracy testing suggested the bore intact. Lacking proper stock inletting capabilities, I decided to preserve the factory inletting and build a walnut pistol stock around the existing inletting of the white-wood stock. The result came out pretty nice, as also did modifying the chamber-tube to accept a drop-block attachment for a regulated HPA tank. A Dura Coat spray finish over the ‘high-patina’ metalwork completed my ‘new’ FT pistol. With the original barrel lopped to 14” and measuring 20.5” overall, the finished hand-rifle is uniquely attractive. But how functional, you ask? 

    What once was a vintage Crosman Co2 rifle is now an awesome PFT ‘pistol’ that sports a crisp, eight-ounce trigger, returns over 70 shots per charge at 775 FPS/11.3 foot-pounds, with regulated consistency, and… oh yeah… averages .65” five-shot groups at 50 yards! Though certainly no pocket-pistol, she performs as well in silhouette competition as in field-target. Not least of her many fine qualities, in a show of tolerance practically unheard of in Scope-Pistolville, she shoots to the same point of impact from bench-rest as from off-hand and the field-target position! An opportunity to test the hand-rifle on the national stage would not come until late 2012. There the Sixties-vintage Co2 rifle to HPA pistol conversion posted a perfect score to capture the Hunter Pistol National Champion title. It has since claimed two more National and several State Champion titles. 

     

    Nostalgic dribble?

    While some might dismiss Co2 as a propellant and vintage airgun worship as just so much nostalgic dribble, no question Crosman was way ahead of its time in the 1950’s and 60’s. Thankfully, high production numbers insure a treasure-trove of these and other vintage airguns remain available today for relative pocket-change. Many of the affordable classics are easily transformed into fine customs with a little ingenuity and handiwork.

    The adage “simplicity is the hallmark of good design” is often lost in this increasingly complicated world. That modified vintage Crosmans can perform alongside the finest competition guns produced in the new millennium re-affirms the genius of simple design and cost-efficient manufacture. Thankfully most techies tend to overlook the old guy with the home-made rig while trying to out-excess their superfluously-equipped competition; a short-sightedness that works to the advantage of this ol’ techno-grouch.

     
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    steve123
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    AirNGasman, that's an amazing accomplishment, the pistols and the titles!

    Thanks for sharing.

    I wish I was handy at stuff like that.

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