With the Shot Show just ending I have seen a lot of reviews where some airguns are hitting the marks on features I like and others not. For example in Matt Dubbers Shot Show 2016 What's New post he shows the Air Arms Galahad and Brocock Compatto. Now everyone has different needs and uses for their airguns so my likes may not be like others. I really think for example that picattiny rails should be at least an option if not standard on airguns. I don't like straight away having to add a weaver adapter to a dovetail rail to get started. I also like to see the rails be place as close as possible to the axis of the bore. Most of my air gunning is done pesting and hunting small game and while I like the looks of a nice wood stock give me a synthetic for carefree field use. I like some of these synthetic stocks with grippy and warm to the touch finishes. As long as they are not too rubbery feeling. Then there are magazines. Give me a simple magazine with no moving parts and don't cost an arm and a leg. And yes include two with every rifle sold. And then for use lefties make the stocks ambidextrous and the cocking bolt/ levers switchable to either side of the rifle. I could go on and on. It would be nice if a manufacture or someone could come up with a check list and related to the type of use you intend for a rifle to get our desired feature incorporated into the airguns. Okay now guys what kind of air gunning do you do and what features would you like to see in your airguns. Bill
What Do Want In An Airgun?
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I want an airgun that is as appealing to the eye as it is capable of high energy and accuracy. When I drop $1,000+ on a rifle it had better speak to my soul in every way. Bleeding edge technology draws me in.
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1. Reliability - Repeatability with minimum of maintenance
2. Accuracy - keeping zero in a variety of uses
3. Spec. Fit - Fitting the right gun with the right usage. i.e. don't need a 357 gun to hunt rats.. *common sense*
4. Ammunition Agnostic - The need for 1 pellet from 1 batch to make it work well
5. Supportability - Not so exotic that I need to speak russian to get get a part I need to get back in business
6. Looks - Absolutely last on my list. Form/functionality and purpose are the most key ingredients for me
2. Accuracy - keeping zero in a variety of uses
3. Spec. Fit - Fitting the right gun with the right usage. i.e. don't need a 357 gun to hunt rats.. *common sense*
4. Ammunition Agnostic - The need for 1 pellet from 1 batch to make it work well
5. Supportability - Not so exotic that I need to speak russian to get get a part I need to get back in business
6. Looks - Absolutely last on my list. Form/functionality and purpose are the most key ingredients for me
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Well.all i can say is.ive had a lot of guns.like a cricket 25.whic was great.shot fxs.daystates.all nice.ive had 2 mrods in 25.in whic i still have one.all and all there nice.but i chose to stic with my mrod.reason being.easy to get parts.plus lotss of hoppd up parts.whic. i did.i turnd mine to a rapid70 bull pup plus a war vavle kit.Absolutely Love it.powerful and Accurate.only thing is that the shot count isnt as good..but all and all i love it.hope that will help u
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"Carbine action, two-hundred shot range model air rifle! With a compass in the stock, and this thing which tells time."
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I'll say Consistency both in pellet speed and accuracy. Weight don't want a heavy gun. Support want to be able to access schematics, have a detailed parts list described (understand dealer profit but keeping Oring sizes secret, then selling a few cents of them for a huge mark up and down time with shipping is a turn off) Magazines have no problem with an expensive gun, 100.00 mags eliminate that gun from my choices. Videos seeing it done is a valuable resource. Pellet Friendly meaning the barrel is designed to shoot one pellet, JSB in FX smooth twist, or Edgun or Cricket same thing. The Sumatra is the best non specific gun I've seen. I'd like to see the foster fitting standardized.
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You're just going to have to wait until Christmas. LOL.
For my list of wants:
Provisions for target/match Iron Sights and scopes.
Reasonable power---800 to 900 ft/s with the middle weight pellets.
Repeater and single loadable---needs at least 8 shot magazines and a single shot
loading tray with ample room to access the port
Lower fill pressure---Start at around 2200 psi.
Reasonable number of shots per fill---need at least 30 on the high power setting.
Reasonable precision---2 MOA is barely good enough, but I'd prefer at least 1.5 MOA,
less than 1 MOA is stellar.
Quickly Tunable---is a desirable feature. Especially getting down to 10 meter velocities
with .177, and with no disassembly required.
Rifle length---I have no need or want for bullpups.
Anschutz rail on handguard for match type sling swivels.
Adjustable stock---Comb height is necessary, length of pull and buttplate drop and
angle are nice features too.
Heavy weight---around 12 lbs with provisions to add weight to change balance and
muzzle inertia. ( That is from this: ]---------w--w---------> to this: ]--w----------------w---> )
Calibers---.177 and .25 are the two wanted.
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Well we all know one rifle can't handle all our needs if we are into more than one aspect of air gunning. It would be nice if an air rifle had some flexibility built into like adjustable and repeatable power wheels and ability to swap barrels. I think companies like FX is trying to accomplish that with some of their rifles and particularly with the FX Impact. It has checked off many of the features I want to see in an air rifle. I personally don't like the looks of it with the big bottle hanging off the front and no real forearm rest other than the bottle. It is also a little to futuristic looking for me, though I have to say function and performance takes a front seat over looks.
I am on pins and needles right now waiting for my first FX rifle the FX Verminator. My use for it will be pest control that is rats and pigeons and small game, squirrels and rabbits. I needed a rifle with a higher shot count per fill and the Verminator will get well over a hundred at the high power setting of 24 fpe. It has a three position power wheel which will make it adjustable for turning down for rats and pigeons in and around structures. I like that it is fairly light,short and maneuverable. Another plus is the male foster fill fitting and the manometer position located under the forearm. I plan to use my NV ATN X-Sight on it and with short carbine length and bottle weight rearward it should be easier to manage the overall rifle weight. I wish the rifle had the a picatinny rail as my NV sight sits high enough already. I would like to see a sling swivel studs provide and or a short picatinny accessory on the forearm. Once again I'd like to see a simple and less expensive magazine in all rifles. I feel like we are being taken on the cost of these magazines. I am not bashing FX as they really are producing some innovative rifles but just pointing out some things as an rifle owner I would like to see. Like I said one rifle can't do it all and my next rifle will be for medium game hunting like groundhogs and raccoons. I like the looks of the FX Wildcat as it crosses off many of my needs and meet some of my above wishes though I would like to see a power wheel on the Wildcat. I have focused on my soon to be in possession FX Verminator but you guys can continue to comment on airguns in general or your particular model of rifle. Bill
I am on pins and needles right now waiting for my first FX rifle the FX Verminator. My use for it will be pest control that is rats and pigeons and small game, squirrels and rabbits. I needed a rifle with a higher shot count per fill and the Verminator will get well over a hundred at the high power setting of 24 fpe. It has a three position power wheel which will make it adjustable for turning down for rats and pigeons in and around structures. I like that it is fairly light,short and maneuverable. Another plus is the male foster fill fitting and the manometer position located under the forearm. I plan to use my NV ATN X-Sight on it and with short carbine length and bottle weight rearward it should be easier to manage the overall rifle weight. I wish the rifle had the a picatinny rail as my NV sight sits high enough already. I would like to see a sling swivel studs provide and or a short picatinny accessory on the forearm. Once again I'd like to see a simple and less expensive magazine in all rifles. I feel like we are being taken on the cost of these magazines. I am not bashing FX as they really are producing some innovative rifles but just pointing out some things as an rifle owner I would like to see. Like I said one rifle can't do it all and my next rifle will be for medium game hunting like groundhogs and raccoons. I like the looks of the FX Wildcat as it crosses off many of my needs and meet some of my above wishes though I would like to see a power wheel on the Wildcat. I have focused on my soon to be in possession FX Verminator but you guys can continue to comment on airguns in general or your particular model of rifle. Bill
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. 22 rifle that is very quiet. Holds lots of air, and magazines that holds around 30-40 pellets.
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Well, the Hatsan Gladius covers almost everything for me, but I'll name it anyhow...
#1. Exceptional Accuracy
#2. High Shot Count
#3. Power Wheel that allow sub 12fpe and more than 40 fpe
#4. Side Lever Action
#5. Awesome Trigger
#6. Removable Air Cylinder Is Nice
#7. Room For Extra Mags Is A Nice Touch
#8. Fully Shrouded Barrel And Under 95db
#9. Weaver Scope Rail
#10. Regulator Built In, Or Quality To The Point Of Not Needing One (Daystate Air Wolf)
Those are the top 10 for me, but I also like heft in an air rifle, and a comfortable design
#1. Exceptional Accuracy
#2. High Shot Count
#3. Power Wheel that allow sub 12fpe and more than 40 fpe
#4. Side Lever Action
#5. Awesome Trigger
#6. Removable Air Cylinder Is Nice
#7. Room For Extra Mags Is A Nice Touch
#8. Fully Shrouded Barrel And Under 95db
#9. Weaver Scope Rail
#10. Regulator Built In, Or Quality To The Point Of Not Needing One (Daystate Air Wolf)
Those are the top 10 for me, but I also like heft in an air rifle, and a comfortable design
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