Long range is when you run out of clicks on your scope lol ? when you are forced to add moa droop rails or some other device. I think though 100+ yards is indeed long range. The wind effects the pellet so much at these ranges.
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What defines “long range”
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If you’re shooting at 500 fps, and match pellets, 100 yards could equal 12+ feet of drop. So, 50 yards could be considered “long range” for a low power springer, like a HW30. ?. But who would do that? Haha
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How's it going to drop 12 feet if your gun is only 5 feet off the ground? ? Actually, at 500fps, depending on the pellet, your trajectory to 100 yards is only going to take your pellet a couple feet over your line of sight to target.
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I agree especially hunting. Past 50yds and hitting target reliably is good shooting in my book
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Actually, Outdoorsman, if you enter some simple calculations, my little springer WILL see a drop of 12 feet from 25 yards to 100 yards, shooting RWS Meisterkugeln pellets @ roughly 527 fps. If you feel like doing the research yourself, check it out on Hawke's Chairgun Pro app.
You'll notice my calculated POI is 149.56 inches (12.46 feet) below my POI of 0 @ 25 yards.
With that said... 50 yards could be considered "Long Range" for a low powered springer.
You'll notice my calculated POI is 149.56 inches (12.46 feet) below my POI of 0 @ 25 yards.
With that said... 50 yards could be considered "Long Range" for a low powered springer.
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It was a joke, thus the winking smiley face. Unless your not on level ground, your pellet is going to hit the dirt after dropping 5 feet.
The pellet makes a big difference in your calculation. If I plug mine in, 15.9gr 0.032BC at 500fps, gun zeroed at 25yds, gives a drop at 100 yards of 62 inches and shooting my mid power Diana 34 at 670fps gives a drop of 36 inches.
The pellet makes a big difference in your calculation. If I plug mine in, 15.9gr 0.032BC at 500fps, gun zeroed at 25yds, gives a drop at 100 yards of 62 inches and shooting my mid power Diana 34 at 670fps gives a drop of 36 inches.
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I always said I wish I had an air gun that matched a .22LR. well they've surpassed that & 2 Alphabet org agents I've talked to tell me air guns will never be regulated; but when I tell them what some can do, they are astounded. Jersey SUCKS. As long as you don't live in a place like that you're good. Yes, I want a. 30 & a RAW .357 but those are not .72, .72/20mm 3K + ftlbs on helium. One shot at a time. You'd think muzzleloaders got a pass for vets with PTSD & redeemed felons willing to spend more on air. They could get regulated as magazines, faster follow ups, no flash & suppressed? We're pushing it. 100- 200 yards is extreme for me but guys are hitting out at incredible distances now with cast bullets. If they regulate those I don't care but leave Diabolos alone please.
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LOL....for me, my .177 HW95 or Beeman R9 and "bucket & sticks" shooting style, anything past my 30 yard zero is considered "long range" when I'm squirrel hunting (or even hunter class field target shooting. At the beginning of my "adult springer shooting" I used to set up based on "50 yard ballistics" even though I zero'd at 30 yards.
When living in West Virginia at this property (a "5 acre wood") I would occasionally snipe squirrels from my deck...........
One day I spotted a couple grey squirrels from the rear deck (LOL...wasn't a "snow day") in a far off large oak tree so I dropped one with the .177 HW77k and wounded the other with my "lottery shooting". The tree where I shot the squirrels was a lazer measured 65 yards away, yet I was still wondering about the "wounded squirrel" since I had proved that I was "Ole Dan'l Boone reincarnated.
I had read on an airgun forum way back in those "slow dial-up days" about gluing 20 paint balls to a piece of cardboard and checking out the percentage of PBs that could be hit at a particular distance. Well....I chose to shoot my PBs the same way I squirrel hunted sitting on a bucket resting the .177 R9 on cross sticks since I preferred the lighter R9 rather than the HW77k for squirrel hunting in the WV hills. Here is the target set out at 50 yards........
After the shooting was over I was disappointed to see that only 50% of the PBs were cracked and I was dismayed to see how far off the PBs some of the misses were...........
That little exercise proved to me that I had no excuse for shooting at 50 yard squirrels (much less "lottery shooting" at 65 yards). At that time a few decades ago I resolved to keep my "squirrel shots" at 30 yards or closer and no more than 40 yards under perfect field conditions! I also found out how satisfying it was to successfully stalk a "far away squirrel" to my 30 yard zero distance (or closer if possible).
Anywhoo......I contend that any distance where more than 10% of paint balls are missed is "long range" for that particular shooter and shouldn't be used for shooting "critters", however for inanimate objects any distance is good!
When living in West Virginia at this property (a "5 acre wood") I would occasionally snipe squirrels from my deck...........
One day I spotted a couple grey squirrels from the rear deck (LOL...wasn't a "snow day") in a far off large oak tree so I dropped one with the .177 HW77k and wounded the other with my "lottery shooting". The tree where I shot the squirrels was a lazer measured 65 yards away, yet I was still wondering about the "wounded squirrel" since I had proved that I was "Ole Dan'l Boone reincarnated.
I had read on an airgun forum way back in those "slow dial-up days" about gluing 20 paint balls to a piece of cardboard and checking out the percentage of PBs that could be hit at a particular distance. Well....I chose to shoot my PBs the same way I squirrel hunted sitting on a bucket resting the .177 R9 on cross sticks since I preferred the lighter R9 rather than the HW77k for squirrel hunting in the WV hills. Here is the target set out at 50 yards........
After the shooting was over I was disappointed to see that only 50% of the PBs were cracked and I was dismayed to see how far off the PBs some of the misses were...........
That little exercise proved to me that I had no excuse for shooting at 50 yard squirrels (much less "lottery shooting" at 65 yards). At that time a few decades ago I resolved to keep my "squirrel shots" at 30 yards or closer and no more than 40 yards under perfect field conditions! I also found out how satisfying it was to successfully stalk a "far away squirrel" to my 30 yard zero distance (or closer if possible).
Anywhoo......I contend that any distance where more than 10% of paint balls are missed is "long range" for that particular shooter and shouldn't be used for shooting "critters", however for inanimate objects any distance is good!
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LOL....for me, my .177 HW95 or Beeman R9 and "bucket & sticks" shooting style, anything past my 30 yard zero is considered "long range" when I'm squirrel hunting (or even hunter class field target shooting. At the beginning of my "adult springer shooting" I used to set up based on "50 yard ballistics" even though I zero'd at 30 yards.
When living in West Virginia at this property (a "5 acre wood") I would occasionally snipe squirrels from my deck...........
One day I spotted a couple grey squirrels from the rear deck (LOL...wasn't a "snow day") in a far off large oak tree so I dropped one with the .177 HW77k and wounded the other with my "lottery shooting". The tree where I shot the squirrels was a lazer measured 65 yards away, yet I was still wondering about the "wounded squirrel" since I had proved that I was "Ole Dan'l Boone reincarnated.
I had read on an airgun forum way back in those "slow dial-up days" about gluing 20 paint balls to a piece of cardboard and checking out the percentage of PBs that could be hit at a particular distance. Well....I chose to shoot my PBs the same way I squirrel hunted sitting on a bucket resting the .177 R9 on cross sticks since I preferred the lighter R9 rather than the HW77k for squirrel hunting in the WV hills. Here is the target set out at 50 yards........
After the shooting was over I was disappointed to see that only 50% of the PBs were cracked and I was dismayed to see how far off the PBs some of the misses were...........
That little exercise proved to me that I had no excuse for shooting at 50 yard squirrels (much less "lottery shooting" at 65 yards). At that time a few decades ago I resolved to keep my "squirrel shots" at 30 yards or closer and no more than 40 yards under perfect field conditions! I also found out how satisfying it was to successfully stalk a "far away squirrel" to my 30 yard zero distance (or closer if possible).
Anywhoo......I contend that any distance where more than 10% of paint balls are missed is "long range" for that particular shooter and shouldn't be used for shooting "critters", however for inanimate objects any distance is good!
Worth revisiting. Thank you for the great advice.
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