Weihrauch HW97kt

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    northlander30
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    Hello again everyone, I recently purchased the Weihrauch HW97KT Blackline in .22. So far this rifle is fantastic! I have about 650 rounds through it so far and from what I have watched on You Tube and what I have read suggest that break-in period is around 200-300 shots. Mine is still dieseling after 650. Everything is coming together and it is smoothing out. My question is, those of you who own this or similar guns, Did you disassemble the gun and tune it? I would like to do this just to get rid of the yellowish Vasoline type grease Weihrauch uses. Also I have the full power version (15-17FPE) is there an upgrade kit available or even a spring that will give maybe 17-19FPE?

     

    This is my rifle

     

    Thanks

     

    Ian

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    TitanFlyer
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    I just bought almost the exact same gun except mine has the nickel coating rather than black on the action. 

    I have not noticed dieseling after the first 40-50 pellets, and even before that I am not sure I noticed it a lot at all.

    Can I ask, the bipod looking thing you have there, where did you get it:?

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    sonny
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    good lookin gun brah!

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    bubblerboy64
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    Is the dieseling a result of a bore cleaner?  Or do you think you might have a bad seal ?  You have to have ignitable material .  I don't think that's a good thing to have happen.  I also (and this is just my personal option) don't think you will be happy with more power.  Harder cocking more vibration and twang potential loss of accuracy.  Personally if I was going one way or the other I'd tune it down rather then up.  

    I've got an HW 30 and the 97 would be a nice addition but I certainly can't justify it.   Always liked the under lever cocking.  Id like a SS with the laminated stock (which they don't offer) 

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    intenseaty22
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    Lots of folk will tear them down even before shooting it once. Clean them really well and put back together. Can always throw in a Macari or Vortek kit in there and it’s sure to improve it (in my experience).

    Sounds to me like you should not be dieseling by now. When I did my LGV only the first shot dieseled. 

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    DualMagMike
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    mine is making 18+fpe in .22 with FTS pellets, accurate and easy to use with a Macarri kit in it

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    EMrider
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    The .177 hw97k is my most accurate springer. Great design and built like a tank.  I stripped mine down and installed an ARH hornet kit right after taking it out of the box  

    I’ve tried both ARH and Vortek tune kits and prefer the shot cycle of the ARH kits. 

    18fpe is a lot for any springer and accuracy may suffer at that power level.  

    Good luck getting the gun setup to your liking.

     

    R

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    northlander30
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    The dieseling is apparent but not as much as it was out of the box. It has calmed down quite a bit. I just notice it.

    TitanFlyer

    I just bought almost the exact same gun except mine has the nickel coating rather than black on the action. 

    I have not noticed dieseling after the first 40-50 pellets, and even before that I am not sure I noticed it a lot at all.

    Can I ask, the bipod looking thing you have there, where did you get it:?

    The bi-pod on the rifle came with my Hatsan 105X Torpedo .25. It is a cheap slip over the barrel that can be folded and locked after use. 

     

    This gun is extremely accurate and is the most accurate of any of my guns. I don't really want to put an upgrade kit in it, it has more than enough power if I ever decided to go out for rabbit or Roughed Grouse. I was just asking if there was a more powerful spring and as you stated it will increase cocking effort. I already have 2 hands needed cocking on my 2 .25 cal Hatsan's.

     

    3 Weeks ago I couldn't justify the price of this rifle either. It was way too out of my price range. But I wanted a well made German air rifle to add to my collection but also to hunt with. I own 14 guitars and I just decided that one maybe 2 had to go. I sold the first one within 3 minutes of posting it on Facebook Marketplace. The money from that guitar got me 80% of the way to where I needed to be financially for this gun. So I decided to sell my Remington 710 .7mm Rem Mag. and that got me over the top that I could afford a mount as well.

    The photo is of a JSB/PDG 26gr Destroyer pellet. The only .22 in my collection that will fire these is my Crosman 2250XL. The HW97KT had no problems whatsoever. This is a hard target test I do at 10 yards to see how much power or downrange energy a pellet has when it hits something hard like steel. It flattened to .633! 

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    travelbike
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    Got a 177 from Krale .  Tuned it down to 12fpe with a Vmach kit after a few pellets.  Heavy but damn accurate.  Still in the break in period. Maybe 200 pellets so far.  Shortened the synthetic stock by about an inch,  mounted a tacvector 10-40 scope, 3d printed a scope wheel and knee riser.  Very happy with purchase.

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    FlexWagtail
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    I was terrified to open up my HW97k, but with the help of some YouTube tutorials it proved to be fairly straightforward.  Of particular note, you do not need a spring compressor tool.  Dropping in an aftermarket kit (VORTEC) was doable for me as a first-timer inside the gun.  I really had no choice, as the factory spring was broken fairly early on in our relationship.   I have no idea why it broke (no, I never dry fired it), but the replacement has improved power and accuracy as expected.

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    Cizur
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     My 97 dieseled for roughly 100 shots. I’ve had absolutely no problems with it since.  Still running the stock spring.   No reason to change out in my opinion unless the original breaks.

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    Windmill01
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    I have a Hw77 22 cal in stainless. It’s fac rated and I’m on the same path as Cizur. No need to change the spring until it breaks, outstanding accuracy and reasonably quiet.

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    Brazos
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    Just keep shooting it (1500+ shots) and it will turn into a different rifle.  You have a long way to go.  Just getting started.

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    greenterror
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    I gotta go with Cizur and Windmill on this, I've thought about a 12fp kit so to shoot it resting on a bag and not my hand, but that's what PCP's are for, right. And it shoots so good, I'm like why.  

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    northlander30
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    Every time I see the standard 97k version with the Beech sporter stock. I say why didn't I buy that one! I just love the look of it! But I also love thumbhole stocks and the wood thumbhole stock was almost an additional 200 dollars! So far I have put around 760 rounds through mine and the dieseling is now starting to disappear.  I am planning a tune for this gun very soon after I get my el cheapo Xisico BAM B3-2 .22 put back together. I am tuning it and refinishing the stock on it. 

     

    If you guys are on facebook please come and join my air gun group. I know there are thousands of them. but I have quite a few knowledgable people on there

     

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1038498282994383/

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    Cizur
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     I could not imagine shooting my 97 with any other stock.   Beautiful and practical. 

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    sonny
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    Cizur…. that is a great stock!

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    DualMagMike
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    Love my 97's new and old

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    northlander30
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    For those of you who have tuned the HW97 full power version, Was there any spring load when the end of the receiver was removed?

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    greenterror

    I gotta go with Cizur and Windmill on this, I've thought about a 12fp kit so to shoot it resting on a bag and not my hand, but that's what PCP's are for, right. And it shoots so good, I'm like why.  

    I just got that same gun.  

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