Weihrauch HW97K .22 Performance Report

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    bdzjlz
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    For the last couple of years, I have been shooting an Air Arms TX200 in .177 as an introduction to springers.  Actually getting bored shooting my PCPs, I have found that I really enjoy trying to get the spring rifles dialed in to shoot at a very consistent and high level of performance.  Additionally, they are more fun to shoot within the confines of my 18 yard indoor range.

    Over the last several weeks I noticed a Weihrauch HW97K .22 on sale by one of our forum members.  Needing another rifle like a hole-in-my-head, I debated for weeks the purchase of this firearm until finally I couldn't stand it any more and made the member an offer.  Negotiations began and shortly two fools came to agreement.  On Wednesday the rifle arrived.

    Yesterday afternoon, I equipped it with Sports Match fully adjustable mounts and 30 mm rings, then mounted a Hawke 8-32×56 SF30 Airmax scope on top of it.  I used the JSB Exact Jumbo Express 14.35 Grain pellet to sight the rifle in.  Then I proceeded to shoot two 10 shot groups for each of 10 different .22 pellets I had in my vault collection.

    A few general observations before I report on groups and accuracy:

    1. The AGN forum member, Mr. Parker, was very fair and professional to deal with.  The rifle came in perfectly packaged and shipped, on-time, and as advertised.  He had previously installed a Vortek PG2 Sho Kit in the rifle and indicated that it should perform in the +/- 14.5 ft lb range.
    2. The rifle is not quite on the level of a TX200.  The finish is not as pure and excellent.
    3. The cocking stroke is significantly shorter on the HW97.
    4. The HW97 is easier to load because of the much larger port opening
    5. I like the way the under lever secures on the HW97 much better than the TX200
    6. The trigger on the HW97 is great but I don't have any complaint about the TX200 trigger either
    7. It seems to shoot very smooth.

    Now for the accuracy testing comments supported by the photos found below:

    Before shooting each of the 10 shot groups, I shot each different pellet for a reticle POI hold as compared to the initial JSB 14.35 gr pellet tried.

    The chrono readings indicated are from the muzzle +/- two feet.

    • The Falcon Accuracy Plus pellets that shoot absolutely 1 hole groups in my my Air Arms PCP rifles would barely hold a 4" group at 18 yards.  I couldn't get them to shoot well enough to even test them.
    • The best pair of groups was a total surprise, the H&N Sport Baracuda Match 21.14 Gr. averaging only 574 FPS but still producing 15.5 ft lbs
    • The second best pair of groups resulted from the H& N Sport Field, Target, Trophy 14.66 Gr, averaging 672 FPS, resulting in 14.70 ft lbs
    • The third best pair of groups came from the JSB Exact Jumbo Express 14.35, averaging 659 FPS, resulting in 13.8 ft lbs
    • Fourth was somewhat of a surprise.  It was the Predator Polymag Short 15.89 Gr.  The average muzzle velocity was 655 FPS, resulting in 15.1 ft lbs
    • Fifth was the JBS Exact Jumbo Heavy 18.13 Gr at an average speed of 616 FPS, resulting in a muzzle energy of 15.13 ft lbs.

    The other five didn't shoot consistently enough to be worthy of mention but can be viewed in the photos as found below.  This rifle certainly has a pellet preference.  It seems that the pellets that fit tightly into the breech port shot the best.  The ones that fit loosely seem to shoot loose groups.

    For a guy that has shot literally tens of thousands of pellets over the last two decades, it still amazes me how a particular rifle can shoot one or two pellet brands/types nearly perfect, while taking a different and highly reputed high quality pellet brand/type and shoot them more like a shotgun.

    After it warms-up and conditions become more conducive outside, I will report back with 50 yard performances on the best five performing pellets.

    I have also attached a photo of the rifle and scope for your viewing pleasure.

    Perhaps in some small way the information shown below can be of assistance to some of you.

     

     

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    racolon
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    Don’t know much about springers but I do own the hw97kt  and with JSB 16 and Walmart’s Crossman 14.3 at 25 yards I can almost put them in the same hole. They at least touch each other. So maybe he should have left it stock. I don’t shoot mine enough due to the weight of it so it’ll be posted for sale pretty soon. 

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    EMrider
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    Good summary, thanks.  Fully agree that the hw97k isn’t as pretty as the AA springers.  Nevertheless, it is my favorite spring gun.  Incredibly accurate and easier to load and cock.  

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    brad870
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    I have a HW97K and a HW77K.  Both shoot lights out.  I also have a TX200 MKIII 22.  So far the Weihrauch barrels impress me a heck of a lot more in accuracy.  

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    Lewis
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    Not to thread jack, but where did you find those targets? are they printable?

     

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    bdzjlz
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    Probably had these targets for 40 plus years.  They are 1” squares so they are really nice to work with.  

     

    I will I’ll scan one and post it so you can print some out.

     

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    TiredRooster
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    Enjoyed your report and the bit of comparison between the HW97 and the TX200. One day I will own one of the two……I get weak kneed when looking at the TX200. All day long it is just opinion, I understand that, but opinions of others are very informative often times. You have both of these fine rifles now……therefore I would be interested in your opinion as to which YOU prefer and why.

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    bdzjlz
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    Attached is the target Lewis requested.  I hope you can down load it.

     

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    bdzjlz
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    Both are great rifles and I am not going to run either of them down.  If a couple of hundred bucks is not a deal breaker, I would definitely buy the TX200.  Not only is it's fit and finish beyond reproach, so many little things are different such as the allen head hardware instead of a screw driver slot that eliminates damage opportunities when removing hardware, etc.  

    I also think the TX200 maybe a little safer the way the bear trap is designed, but again, I have not been uncomfortable with the HW97's operation, either.

    Both are heirlooms that will make several generations if properly cared for.  I am certain you would enjoy either one for many years.

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    bdzjlz

    Both are great rifles and I am not going to run either of them down.  If a couple of hundred bucks is not a deal breaker, I would definitely buy the TX200.  Not only is it's fit and finish beyond reproach, so many little things are different such as the allen head hardware instead of a screw driver slot that eliminates damage opportunities when removing hardware, etc.  

    I also think the TX200 maybe a little safer the way the bear trap is designed, but again, I have not been uncomfortable with the HW97's operation, either.

    Both are heirlooms that will make several generations if properly cared for.  I am certain you would enjoy either one for many years.

     

    Don't want you to run either of them down. It is a given that both are fine rifles with one heck of a pedigree. A lot of what you have reported has been very helpful. It's the small things and little details (that you have mentioned) that I am curious about. I don't have the opportunity to actually see or hold either of these. Therefor, posts like yours are very interesting and helpful. Thank you for sharing.

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    brad870
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    I can tell you on looks, the TX200 MKIII wins hands down.  But I honestly think with same good shooter behind both Weihrauch is gonna be hard to top.  But I will know more in time.  Maybe I just havent found the magic pellet for my Air Arms. 

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    bdzjlz
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    Brad, what caliber is your TX?

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    brad870
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    22

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    bdzjlz
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    Can't help you much since yours is .22, Brad.  In my .177 I have found a huge difference in pellet performance.  My rifle prefers the AA 8.3, the H&N FTT 8.66 or the H&N Baracuda 10.66.  However there is no reason for me to believe that these pellets in the appropriate weights will transfer to your .22 rifle's preference.

    What I do know, is it took me nearly 15 months, a Vortek Sho kit, and trying +/- 30 different pellets before I really got it dialed into the super accurate and consistent performance I get now.  So be patient……

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    brad870
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    Yea my point with Weihrauch guns I own both shoot great right out of box.  

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    Spaceblue
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    Congratulations.  Very nice looking and shooting HW97. I remember looking at that one in the ads. I think it was a Jolly Roger special edition or something like that. I passed on it because I wanted to stay with .177. Nice to see it finding a good home. Good luck with it.

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    AG72
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    Great shooting! I also have a hw97k in 22, and only shooting with h/n field target trophy, the accurasy is amazing! I have trying to shoot past 100 meters with it, but my scope only have 3 mildots and the elevation doesn't allow for that distance, was shooting out to a frozen lake and had to aim at footprints longer away from the target wich is not ideal… 3 different shotgroups with 5,4 and 3 pellets, and she had enough power to penetrate trough the tincan also, i was sitting down and shot supported with a triggerstick. I think i need another scope for her…

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