Weihrauch HW100

Marmalade · Dec 7, 2016

Hi everyone!

After a long time lurking I finally decided to create an account and send my first post straight to the dark side.
I've noticed that more and more often I'm reaching for my air rifle than any of my powderburners due to the fact that ranges for powderburners are a good deal away from me.
Because of that, the low cost of ammo and Teds videos I decided that to purchase my first PCP.
Before placing an order for the rifle I would like some firsthand opinions.
The exact model i'll be buying is HW100S FSB 5,5mm FAC. I've read online that there were some accuracy issues and barrel problems with the HW100 and the FSB model in particular.
Has anyone bought this rifle recently? How does it shoot - accuracy, shot count etc.? Maintenence? Reliability? Anyone who bought it some time ago feel free to chime in also. I'd love to hear what you have to say after some time with it.

For anyone that's wondering I have only one air rifle at the moment - HW77 in 4,5mm

Thanks in advance for all the comments.

Matt

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mubhaur · Dec 7, 2016

I have HW100 fsb .22 fac for more than 2 years.

Mine is extremely accurate and consistent to 90 yards. That is the range up to what I have tested it y now.

It's favourite pellet is JSB 18 grain

I hope it will help.

But again every barrel is different so I can't say anything with surety about the one you will get.

Marmalade · Dec 7, 2016

Thanks for the info. I'll be sure to try the JSB pellets first. They seem to work best out for most guys here.
What kind of shot count do you get? I was thinking about a long FX cylinder for some time in the future. I also like the look of it.

tsakula · Dec 7, 2016

i had non fsb. perfect gun with super accuracy after i decreased speed from 320 meters to 280. only bad is shout count. two mags only. 28 shots

Nueces · Dec 7, 2016

You have probably already seen this but in case you have not:

http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/?s=Weihrauch+HW+100&btnGo=

mubhaur · Dec 7, 2016

I get around 33 shots at full power

mubhaur · Dec 7, 2016

You might get a few more shots if you decrease the regulator pressure a bit. The factory setting of regulator pressure on hw100 .22 41joules guns is 135 bars

mubhaur · Dec 7, 2016

Manicminer,

Yes the standard hw100 .22 fac has 6 grooved barrel but it is not a polygonal barrel. It is also button drawn barrel.

Some of these 6 grooved barrels are not that good. But those which are good are excellent.

These barrels require less air to achieve more power.

FSB is 12 grooved button drawn barrel and is an accurate barrel.

Marmalade · Dec 7, 2016

That doesn't sound good. Changing the barrel might be a trivial task to do but here a barrel has to get the same paperwork done as a firearm so getting one registered in my firearms permit and then putting it on a air rifle that is not considered a firearm...

Marmalade · Dec 7, 2016

"Nueces"You have probably already seen this but in case you have not:

http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/?s=Weihrauch+HW+100&btnGo=

I've read this yes and many other reviews but I really have a hard time believing anyone that might profit from a good review or by bashing the product. That's why I came here for some unbiased opinions.

Marmalade · Dec 7, 2016

"MANICMINER"HW100 is great, the barrel can be rotated 360deg, so if it is not shooting straight, you can index it to shoot to 12hours, becuase it has no transferport on the side.
you see something for your consideration. yes the barrel is a big questionmark.

i also like that the scope can me mounted extremely low because the magazine is in the action. not many guns can do it. so close shots are also easy.

The magazine is also a big part of why I'm interested in this particular rifle. Like you said it's great for mounting optics and I i really like the look of it. For me estethics are also important. If the FX Streamline didn't have that mag sticking out I'd be looking at it very closely.

mubhaur · Dec 7, 2016

I think you should get fsb model. Normally fsb does not have such issues. Shroud decreases the sound level but not up to the level of a dedicated hw moderator

mubhaur · Dec 7, 2016

Technically the polygonal barrels are made by hammer forging process. Just by having 6 groves doesn't prove a barrel to be polygonal.

Any barrel which is button drawn but has 6 grooves is not polygonal by any means.

Marmalade · Dec 7, 2016

One thing I noticed from this thread and other sources is that the shot count is not great. I will be pumping this gun there is no question about it. The nearest high pressure compressor is about 80km of windy road and that's not an option. Scuba tanks came in to consideration but still I like the independence of a pump, on the other hand like I've said this is going to be my first PCP and I've never even held a hand pump for one. Some say it's ok other that it's a pain.
What do you guys think? I was looking at a Hill Mk4.

Marmalade · Dec 7, 2016

"MANICMINER"

here is Ted messing with his .177, he should have tuned it to 17-18J (balancing it to give better consistency across the full fill by reducing the reg or adding more hammer spring) power output.

I watched all three parts, but his is in 4,5. I'm looking at 5,5 because I won't be just punching paper I'll be shooting ferals from 60-100m and I don't think a 4,5 is good enough for that especially at 16J.

weatherby · Dec 7, 2016

Hi Marmalade,

The HW100 is a very good gun with only 2 big drawbacks.
As said before, the 5.5mm barrels plain suck, just like the shot count. 4.5mm barrels are very good.
I have rebarreled 6-7 HW100'S, a couple with BSA barrels, one with a SPA M10 barrel and a couple with LW polygonal barrels with and without choke.

The standard 5.5mm 6 groove's bore (indeed, it is not a polygonal barrel, but a conventional one with very shallow grooves) is way too big to fit normal pellets.

All the HW100's mentioned before shot like a turd before fitting the new barrel, and shot great with the new barrels. Ragged holes at 50m were the norm, and even shot a 12mm group at 100m with the BSA barreled one.

With a bit of luck, the fat 40mm bobcat tubes will also fit the 100 by use of the FX-HW adapter as sold by best fittings. This will increase shot count dramaticly. (300cc minimum vs 185cc stock)

I could increase the power to 55 joules with JSB monsters by changing the restrictor, and increasing the regulator pressure.

Great guns, they are among the best PCP's out there, and after 10+ years in production, they can still keep up with the newcomers.

Like said before, only minusses are the 5.5mm barrels and the 185cc tiny air tube for very low shotcount at full power levels.
(I have no experience with the fsb models, but I've read stories they do perform better than the regular models.)

The plusses however are exceeding the minussen by far, best magazine out there, great trigger, nice walnut stock, standard regulator etc.

Can't go wrong with them.

Kind regards,

Gijs

(P.s. Polygonal barrels don't necessarily have to be hammer forged, LW barrels for instance are all button rifled.)

Marmalade · Dec 7, 2016

Thanks for the rundown of the HW100 weatherby.
There are a lot of good sides to this rifle but accuracy for me is above all else - not just regarding airguns. From what I've read in the last couple of hours isn't giving me any confidence especially because it would probably be a big hassle to change the barrel bureaucratically speaking.
It seems that the for now HW100 is just not going to be my first PCP unless I can get a barrel for it without all the BS. I'll have to ring up some state officials tomorrow to see what the actual situation with airgun barrels is...

Marmalade · Dec 7, 2016

"MANICMINER"try to buy used, and shoot it before if you can. these are very robust built like a tank, very reliable, they wear not little so can be bought second hand without any issue. If it groups well, you will be golden

I was searching for used ones just to take a look at it but in 6 months I haven't seen one for sale. A new one either. I would have to order it and hope for the best.
Most guys that I've met in the firearms community haven't even heard of PCPs. Those that have experience mostly shoot 10m indoor matches, so buying one I have to realize that for now if the rifle doesn't shoot well I'll have no one to sell it to and that is a risk I'm not willing to take.

scrane · Dec 7, 2016

I am still somewhat leery of the HW100 in .22. Many stories of poor accuracy. I have one in .177 and it shoots great. It is an unusual design with elegant engineering. Probably the best magazine system on the market. If you can find an older long barrel FAC model you should get lotsa shots.

fe7565 · Dec 7, 2016

Manic Miner...great help and advice on this topic albeit it may take a while for some to get used to your no-nonsense style

Wish I could give you another accuracy point but already gave you for another thread.

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