I have had good luck so far. I still haven’t found a better way to save the scopes. I believe there is much room for evolution. I will keep using these until someone improves on the ideas.
Upvote 0
We can send a man to the moon. WHY CAN'T WE MAKE A SCOPE MAGNUM SPRINGER PROOF !
- Thread starter GoldenStateAIRGUNer
- Start date
I looked at the link regarding what you did but since there is no narrative I can only guess what exactly you did. It looks like you drilled and tapped two holes on the top ( side with direction arrow ) side of the main body. It also looks like you drilled and tapped corresponding holes on the side of the body. They look like they are at 90deg to each other. The thread of the nylon screws appear to be a 1/4-20 NC. I see what your tying to accomplish but have a question and a point. My question is why didn't you do both ends of the body for greater stability ? My point (concern) relates to the amount of pressure on the steel rods by the nylon screws. I assume those steel rods are rubbing against the bores of the aluminum body ? Over time the steel will wear the roundness out of those bores. When steel rubs against aluminum....steel wins! It may take time but it will wear. I like what you did but doing both ends might even be better. I do lathe and milling work and I might even buy the Bullseye for the sake of experimentation. I did built my own pellet sizer.
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/my-sig-sauer-asp20-22-has-arrived-some-thoughts-and-some-chrony-results/
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/my-sig-sauer-asp20-22-has-arrived-some-thoughts-and-some-chrony-results/
Upvote 0
Wow....I just watched the SIG video on your rifle. In the numerous scenes shown firing it, that gun has some serious recoil. No wonder your scope crapped out. It would make a great test bed to see just how tough "airgun rated" scopes really are. 850 fps with 14.5 gr. pellets is fast for a spring gun. Good looking rifle. Try a Vortex Crossfire II 4-12X AO. Mine has 5500 shots now on a D34 .22 Best warranty in the industry.
https://www.sigsauer.com/store/asp20-break-barrel-air-rifle-22cal-wood-stock.html
https://www.sigsauer.com/store/asp20-break-barrel-air-rifle-22cal-wood-stock.html
Upvote 0
GoldenState,
You are correct on all counts and assumptions. Doing both ends would be even better, and I'm sure there will be some wear over enough cycles. If it ever wore enough to feel any movement again I could always turn the nylon screws a bit more.
I would be interested if you could design and create a better mouse trap. There has to be some type of small bearing slide that could be adapted. I even considered replacing the spring portion with an RC shock that would move freely in one direction then reset more slowly and gently.
You are correct on all counts and assumptions. Doing both ends would be even better, and I'm sure there will be some wear over enough cycles. If it ever wore enough to feel any movement again I could always turn the nylon screws a bit more.
I would be interested if you could design and create a better mouse trap. There has to be some type of small bearing slide that could be adapted. I even considered replacing the spring portion with an RC shock that would move freely in one direction then reset more slowly and gently.
Upvote 0
To the best of my knowledge all Sightron Scopes are Springer rated. I also don't know of any other Scope manufacturer that caters to us airgunners like Sightron.
https://sightronusa.com/
Awesome scope at an amazing price:
https://www.amazon.com/Sightron-31021-4-12X40Mm-Diameter-Reticle/dp/B01N7P76MU/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1545576898&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=sightron+4-12X40+FT+MOA
https://sightronusa.com/
Awesome scope at an amazing price:
https://www.amazon.com/Sightron-31021-4-12X40Mm-Diameter-Reticle/dp/B01N7P76MU/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1545576898&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=sightron+4-12X40+FT+MOA
Upvote 0
My 52 has eaten several good scopes including a Vortex. I tried the ZR mount but the one I received was sloppy loose with way too much side to side play.
Perhaps I should have tried another one but I just wrote them off as junk and went back to a fixed mount.
Perhaps I should have tried another one but I just wrote them off as junk and went back to a fixed mount.
Upvote 0
I would say this rifle bucks on par with my .22 Theoben Eliminator. That rifle spit out 14.3gr Crossman Premiers at 925fps compared to the Sigs 860fps. I'm open to scope options. The test rifle Airgun Depot used in that video was fitted with the Whiskey3 scope which is also a Sig pruduct. They aren't cheap though !
Upvote 0
I think that there's only so much room for improvement. If your only tightening the nylon screws enough to still allow the slide portion to move freely, and not bind, then I doubt much wear will occur on the aluminum bores. That aluminum is a hardened anodized type that should stand up fairly well. I still am only seeing dovetail type mounts for the Bullseye. I need a Picatinny type. I don't want to stack any adapters on my mount rail.
Upvote 0
The link greenterror provided has a knock off version with the picatinny mounts. I have no experience with these but it looks very similar. I would plan to take the time to mod them as described earlier. only a couple of bucks in parts.
Upvote 0
I looked at their website and it does not say this scope is springer rated. Even the scopes they say are for airguns you have to be careful. Tgey may be talking about pneumatic or PCP guns. Sometimes by "airgun rated" they are talking about short range parallax adjustment.
Upvote 0
I looked at their website and it does not say this scope is springer rated. Even the scopes they say are for airguns you have to be careful. Tgey may be talking about pneumatic or PCP guns. Sometimes by "airgun rated" they are talking about short range parallax adjustment.
Upvote 0
I looked at their website and it does not say this scope is springer rated. Even the scopes they say are for airguns you have to be careful. They may be talking about pneumatic or PCP guns. Sometimes by "airgun rated" they are talking about short range parallax adjustment which is critical for short range airgun use.
Upvote 0
There are plenty of scopes out there that will survive a springer, one just has to be willing to spend the cash. Burris and Leupold are two companies that build quality optics that will survive springers and I've had Burris on my Springers for years. Currently have a Busnell "airgun" rated scope on an R9 that had to be sent in for repair. Don't spend $600+ on a quality springer then expect a $150 scope live on it forever and complain when it doesn't.
Upvote 0
Surviving a springer is half the battle. The next step in survival is the MAGNUM springer. The snap of a R9 is not the same as a 24-26 ft/lb Magnum springer.
Upvote 0
You've got me there. My old R1 in .177 wore it's scope for a decade without trouble but that's probably not the same as a 24-26 lb/ft rifle.
My current R1 is tuned to 19lbs and while sharp, is very very smooth. The new Burris I mounted is a long way off from it's longevity test.
Upvote 0
I owned a R1 in .177cal. It was tame compared to my Beeman Crow Magnum III (Theoben Eliminator) and the Sig ASP20. The R1 in .177cal launched light pellets around 980fps. The tag attached to my ASP20 trigger said 1400fps in .177cal and 1044fps in .22. I'm getting 1030fps with a 10.3gr .22 pellet. I use to get pinch blisters on my shoulder from my Theoben. The Sig is not quite as bad but it tries real hard. LOL !
Upvote 0