Ok I had been entertaining the idea of a HW 30S but am shying away from it. I now am closer to deciding between Walther LGV, Walther LGU and Air Arms TX200. My primary concern is accuracy but quietness would be welcomed and smoothness would get high points. I think all of their triggers would be good or could be made very good. Easy to cock would also get points but I think all are manageable. Lower cost would be welcomed but I have always found that getting the right gun that makes you the happiest means you may pay more. Please let me know which one you would buy if you could only have one. Also please let me know if you have a used one for sell. I love this site and thanks for your feedback.
Walther LGV, LGU or Air Arms TX 200
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I have a hw97k that i love, but if i had the chance, i would buy the air arms! It is one of, or possible the best springer gun there is, once you got your hands on a air arms, you could feel the quality, it is a heavy gun, like the hw97k, but the balance is perfect! Go for it or you will regret you didn't
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I wouldn't think ANY of those would be a bad choice including the HW97. If you want a gun you can honestly just look at and appreciate the craftsmanship and quality ...The TX is kinda in a league of its own . I've owned two and while both were accurate ..I wasn't lucky , or probably good enough shot to get them to shoot like I wanted .
When I buy another one ( and I will for sure ) I'm going to get one with the lighter spring like used in the UK . Krale has a version of the LGV that's not offered here that I have been debating on getting for a while now .
When I buy another one ( and I will for sure ) I'm going to get one with the lighter spring like used in the UK . Krale has a version of the LGV that's not offered here that I have been debating on getting for a while now .
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JoeWayne, Why do you like the LGV? Is it more accurate or smoother? Would you want a LGV over a LGU? I have heard several times that a LGU has out shot a tx200 and I would probably pick accuracy as my number one goal.
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For me honestly , IF all else is equal , a break barrel is easier to load with my arthritis... Plus a already have several similar rifles to the LGV and TX . But on paper at least , the others have an accuracy advantage because the barrel is fixed .
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Also I was looking in .177 but may be open to a .22. Do some believe that .177 is more accurate than.22? I also heard .22 may be better for hunting.
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IMHO, springers are best at power levels of 14fpe or less. I prefer 11-12fpe. For that power level, I always go .177 for the flatter trajectory.
For pesting or hunting, a .177 will do the job just fine if the shot is accurate.
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For pesting or hunting, a .177 will do the job just fine if the shot is accurate.
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EMrider, I have heard several guys order the gun in the UK version (12 lb.). I am guess because it is easier to cock and not as harsh to shoot? Thank you for confirming that .177 will do pesting well. Do you know about what fps the 12 lb. version shoots a .177 pellet?
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I’ve owned the TX200 MkIII in .22 since 2010 and during this time I’ve fired at least 800 pellets a month. I love the quality, the accuracy and the enjoyment that shooting it brings me. It’s a pleasure knowing that if I do my part the TX200 will deliver every time. In 2012 I was in Pueblo, Colorado and the only place to shoot legally was at an indoor range. When I asked if the range was open to air rifles, the man replied with a grin; “you mean a pellet gun?” So, every Wednesday night between 7 and 9 you could find me and my TX200 at the range. During this time other shooters took notice and they commented on the quality and accuracy of the TX200. Then, one of the range masters looked at the TX200 and said; “That’s not a pellet gun, it’s an air rifle.” Until 2012, I did all of my shooting in the fields of Lexington, Tennessee. I set up dove and duck decoys, spinners, walking targets and bottles at 25yds, 35yds, 50yds, and 75yds. Although, some of these targets presented a challenge for me, the TX200 handled them with ease. When my neighbor’s lawn was assaulted by an armadillo, he came to me and asked if I could solve the problem with my air rifle. Two months later the opportunity presented itself and I dispatched the armadillo with a head shot at just under 20yds. Since 2011 I’ve dispatched Chipmunk (60+), Grey Fox (1), Groundhog (1), Possum (1), Porcupine (1), Prairie Dog (25+), Raccoon (1), Rabbit (10+), Rat (25+), Skunk (12+), Squirrel (30+), Turkey (1), and a plethora of birds. All this was done with head shots using the H&N Baracuda Green Pellets. I’ve developed reasonable expectations and a good understanding of the limitations of my TX200. The .22 has provided me with the opportunity to take larger quarry such as the Fox, porcupine and raccoon with confidence. A lot of people will disagree with me, but .22 is the smallest caliber I use for hunting.
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How hard is it to load a TX 200. I have heard different stories and some make me think the LGV would be much easier to load and shoot even if the accuracy may be slightly less than tx200. Is loading a big deal for a TX 200?
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I was shooting my LGV today at 15 yards indoors. After trying many different pellets I shot twenty 5 shot groups. Nineteen of those groups had every pellet hole either touching or overlapping each other. The worst group was 3/8, The average was .21 ctc. I am very happy with this gun.
Now the question. I have a friend who asked me what he should buy. He is willing to pay most anything for a nice break barrel springer. I don't want to give him a bum steer and tell him to just buy what I have. Will an out of the box HW95 or RWS 34 shoot just as well?
Now the question. I have a friend who asked me what he should buy. He is willing to pay most anything for a nice break barrel springer. I don't want to give him a bum steer and tell him to just buy what I have. Will an out of the box HW95 or RWS 34 shoot just as well?
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Daystate I honestly wouldn't say the TX is hard to load , I have had several FWB rifles that also use a loading port . But the TX port is cut out for using pretty much just your right hand and my right thumb is where my arthritis is the worst . I load my FWBs left handed .
Brent , this is just my opinion but when you start getting into the really nice European rifles they most all will shoot well . There is something about the shot cyclying in a 34 that I personally don't care for ....But that being said , my shooting partner wouldn't take ANYTHING for his ....Its by far his favorite rifle and is very accurate . I personally like the HW rifles . If I were buying a break barrel rifle right now , I'd probably buy a 95 or maybe a 35 . When you start getting into the "magnum" springers it takes a LOT of skill to shoot one accurate.... And I'm not one of those good enough to do it
Brent , this is just my opinion but when you start getting into the really nice European rifles they most all will shoot well . There is something about the shot cyclying in a 34 that I personally don't care for ....But that being said , my shooting partner wouldn't take ANYTHING for his ....Its by far his favorite rifle and is very accurate . I personally like the HW rifles . If I were buying a break barrel rifle right now , I'd probably buy a 95 or maybe a 35 . When you start getting into the "magnum" springers it takes a LOT of skill to shoot one accurate.... And I'm not one of those good enough to do it
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I've never had a problem loading my TX200, however, I do have small hands. I agree with "JWR" the expensive European rifles shoot well. I did choose the TX200 over some of the others because there is very little preload on the spring and it can be rebuilt without any special equipment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg2U78vl67I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg2U78vl67I
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Air Arms TX200...Trust me. There are many choices out there and I have had and still own several that have been discussed but you can not go wrong with the TX200.
I just edited the post I made previously because I got off track. Purchase this rifle and it will meet your needs and beyond. I will not dispute what others have said above because everything being said is true. However, the TX200 for the money is a great and accurate rifle which has won many contests. Like all springers there is a learning curve and you must practice to master this rifle as with any. You will not be disappointed.
I just edited the post I made previously because I got off track. Purchase this rifle and it will meet your needs and beyond. I will not dispute what others have said above because everything being said is true. However, the TX200 for the money is a great and accurate rifle which has won many contests. Like all springers there is a learning curve and you must practice to master this rifle as with any. You will not be disappointed.
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I dont see the problem with trying out the hw30s? Its really cheap and will get you into springers. It does take some skill to shoot so it will force you to pick up good springer habits. Easy and light to cock and handle.
Then if your happy with a spring rifle you could pick up a tx200 or a walther.
for 20 meters plinking and target shooting the hw30s is a joy.
Then if your happy with a spring rifle you could pick up a tx200 or a walther.
for 20 meters plinking and target shooting the hw30s is a joy.
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+1 with what Deja said about the HW30...I can't remember where I read it but a fellow posted that most quality springers are fun to shoot .
But shoot a HW30 and you will for sure break into a huge grin .
I purchased another vintage springer today from a great guy with an incredible rifle collection, He told me that his LGU and LGV were the smoothest shooting out of the box rifles he had ever shot . Coming from most guys I'd weigh that as possible hearsay....But This guy virtually has EVERY good spring rifle made over the last 40 years . And many of them he has multiples of . I will probably purchase a few more guns from him as I go along . But when he was telling me which guns he was thinking of selling ....The Walther's never came up
But shoot a HW30 and you will for sure break into a huge grin .
I purchased another vintage springer today from a great guy with an incredible rifle collection, He told me that his LGU and LGV were the smoothest shooting out of the box rifles he had ever shot . Coming from most guys I'd weigh that as possible hearsay....But This guy virtually has EVERY good spring rifle made over the last 40 years . And many of them he has multiples of . I will probably purchase a few more guns from him as I go along . But when he was telling me which guns he was thinking of selling ....The Walther's never came up
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Thanks for the great input. Looks like it is down to the TX200 and Walther LGU. Getting close to pulling the trigger ( I know the trigger is better on the TX200).
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